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Bryan Burnett | 18:50 UK time, Thursday, 25 August 2011

We've decided to change the theme for Friday night after regular blogger, Henri Hannah made the point that the sad death of songwriters Jerry Leiber and Nickolas Ashford this week hadn't really been covered on Get It On. Therefore, Friday's theme will now be songwriting partnerships. As well as covering the best of Ashford and Simpson and Leiber and Stoller we will hopefully take in teams like Elton John and Bernie Taupin, Lennon and McCartney and Bacharach and David. We'll also include songwriting partnerships within bands and far be it from me to suggest that M*rrissey and M*rr would be an excellent example of this! It should be an excellent theme providing some quality tunes for Friday night. Thanks bloggers for the wee nudge towards this one.

Comments

  • Comment number 1.

    New Faces - The Rolling Stones



    Written by one of the most influential teams ever: Jagger & Richards



    DC

  • Comment number 2.

    Sycophants.

  • Comment number 3.


    Psycho Stan

  • Comment number 4.

    FRIDAY


    Alone
    - Heart

    True Colors - Cyndi Lauper

    I Drove All Night - Roy Orbison

    Sex as a Weapon - Pat Benatar


    Just a few of the songs written by Tom Kelly & Billy Steinberg.


    :o)

  • Comment number 5.

    #4 - SG - happy to second "Alone"

    Joe
    Linlithgow

  • Comment number 6.

    #5

    Joe,

    They also wrote Like a Virgin but keep it to yourself. Bryan might play it just to be thrawn...


    >8-D

  • Comment number 7.

    Pathos synch

  • Comment number 8.

    shan't copy

  • Comment number 9.

    poncy stash

  • Comment number 10.

    To Stony Chap

  • Comment number 11.

    Ooops that should be

    O Stony Chap

  • Comment number 12.

    Hoy can post



    An exciting blog tonight

  • Comment number 13.

    Pride of the Summer - Runrig - Calum & Rory Macdonald

  • Comment number 14.

    Gamble and Huff
    Strummer/Jones
    Ulvaeus/Andersson
    Mann & Weil
    King & Goffin

    Can't be arsed suggesting a song!

  • Comment number 15.

    Erm previously on the blog
    In the last thread, three of my short list of short songs were played in the first 5 on GIO.

    Do I have to don my flak jacket and leave the blog?

  • Comment number 16.

    #14
    I'll suggest a gamble / huff composition for you MM.

    Year of decision / Three Degrees
    The perfect pop song.

  • Comment number 17.

    None of us would have noticed if you'd not felt the need to show-off, paolopablo. Away and get your jacket on. You can come back after I've had a shout.

    In the meantime, here's one for eric;

    Your Song - Elton John/Bernie Taupin

  • Comment number 18.

    #15 no need Paolo, for the next few days just restrict your suggestions to numbers by Joe Dolce or Dana ;-)

  • Comment number 19.

    Strummer / Jones - White Man (In Hammersmith Palais)

  • Comment number 20.

    Chips Moman and Dann Penn:

    James C arr or Gram Parson - Dark End Of The Street

    Aretha or Willie Nelson- Do Right Woman, Do Right Man

  • Comment number 21.

    #15
    Did you get a plug for each one??

    #16

    Tennant and Lowe

    West End Girls - Pet Shop Boys

    THE perfect pop song

  • Comment number 22.

    hmm good theme and potential for some great songs although so sad that we loose such talented people makes the music world a less bright place.

    In keeping with the theme and who it is we are thinking off how about some of the following.

    Stand by Me - Ben E. King and written by Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller
    Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing - Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell written by Nickolas Ashford & Valerie Simpson

    Perhaps the most apt title as well considering there really is nothing like the real thing as far as these partnerships go!

    Some others as well

    Tiny Dancer - Elton John (Elton/Taupin)
    Let It Be - Beatles (Lennon & McCartney)
    Reelin' In The Years - Steely Dan (Becker-Fagen)
    If You Don't Know Me By Now - Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes (Gamble/Huff)

    Iain in Inverness

  • Comment number 23.

    #21 No

  • Comment number 24.

    You still here?????

  • Comment number 25.

    - The Yayhoos - Bj枚rn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson
    I'm Your Puppet - James & Bobby Purify - Dan Penn and Spooner Oldham
    Cry for a Shadow - The Beatles - John Lennon and George Harrison (with perhaps a nod to Jerry Lordan)
    Crossroads - Paul McCartney - Tony Hatch and Jackie Trent

  • Comment number 26.

    Justin Currie / Iain Harvie wrote some crackers (though mosts of Del Amitri or at least a good % is just Justin)

    Del Amitri - Here and Now

    Del Amitri - Move Away Jimmy Blue


    and the sperb Jobson / Adamson

    Skids - Circus Games (great Friday night radio track)
    Skids - Arena (great album track less likely to be played but worth checking out)

  • Comment number 27.

    #16 Thanks, think you're correct a decision is now called for!

    Shelley & Devoto ~ Boredom

  • Comment number 28.

    Tides - Martin & James - Martin Kelly and James O鈥橬eill

  • Comment number 29.

    #27 thank goodness for that, that leaves Goffin & King then...

    One Fine Day - Chiffons
    Oh No Not My Baby - Dusty Springfield
    Pleasant Valley Sunday - Monkees


    Paul from Ayr

  • Comment number 30.

    #29

    Paul, don't sweat it... anyhow, #27 hasn't got a snowball in hell chance on T.S.W.Y.C.T.M Radio!

    Are you doing the 10k for Kittiwakes?

  • Comment number 31.

    i make no apologies for returning to this topic.
    a great songwriting duo...batt/melua have written some nice songs together but none so controversial as the one about the preferred mode of transport in a wee toon in china.
    the debate and gathering of data has still to be completed as no sooner have the numbers been subject to peer analysis, scrutiny and learned correspondence in the quality press - when someone reports that a family has been seen entering and leaving the local halfords with few new wans.

    '9,000,000 bicycles '.................katie melua

    cheers frae the dale

  • Comment number 32.

    In order to ingratiate myself and join the ericinelgin henri hanna dc bandwagon, I would like to request anything by M*rrissey and M*rr please!

  • Comment number 33.

    #32 @ ya T-F...............

    'the revisionist'...................the lawrence arms (kelly/mccaughan)

    cheers frae the dale

  • Comment number 34.

    #22 Let It Be is credited Lennon -McCartney but only for contractual reasons - it is an entirely McCartney composition and comes form the band's swansong period, relations were not good. It would be as inappropriate as 'Yesterday', which used to drive John bonkers when he would go places and people would play it, believing it was something to do with him.

    In fact, Lennon - McCartney compositions are largely restricted to the early Beatles and it was pretty much the case that whoever was singing was primarily responsible for the writing, with occasional contributions from the other. It is also approximately the truth that the spirit of the songs can be divided as Lennon (negative) McCartney (positive).

    Where the 'collaborations' are most obvious is where two quite different but unfinished compositions by each of them are welded together to make a unified whole.

    The most obvious example of this is 'A Day In The Life' where a bit of a McCartney song idea is stuck in the middle of Lennon's song.

    Another example of two songs welded into one is 'We Can Work It Out' McCartney sings the positive and hopeful part leading to the claim that 'We Can Work It Out' while Lennon chips in with the quite different and negative refrain 'life is very short and there's no time'.

    A Day In The Life has been played quite often on GIO so it would be good to hear something else from the enormous canon of work. 'We Can Work It Out' certainly fits the bill though there is another example of exactly this type of collaboration which is often overlooked and is a stoater, imho, and was probably their last collaborative effort.

    I've Got A Feeling - The Beatles ( Lennon- McCartney) is also from Let It Be, however, that album was ruined by being handed to Phil Spector who made an unpromising project worse - the later 'Let It Be - naked' captures the spirit of what McCartney had in mind when they set off down that road after the White Album.

    We Can Work It Out - The Beatles

    or

    I've Got A Feeling - The Beatles from Let It Be ...naked.

    regardez - youse

    henri

  • Comment number 35.

    It Might As Well Be Spring - Dick Haymes Rogers & Hammerstein.

    regardez - youse

    henri

  • Comment number 36.

    Oh and..

    Let's Call the Whole Thing Off - 'Either' Sam Cooke / 'Eyether' Sarah Vaughan

    (George and Ira Gershwin)

    PS the Sam Cooke version of this is the least obvious, but it's definitely the best, imho.

    regardez- youse

    henri

  • Comment number 37.

    #34

    "...there's no time for fussing and fighting." What's negative about that?

    You're distorting the data to fit your conclusion. No Nobel Prize for you.

  • Comment number 38.

    'Georgia On My Mind' - Hoagy Carmichael with lyrics by his college friend Stuart Gorrell...who went on to become a banker and never wrote another song in his life...what a song to have written though!

    Ray Charles - 'Georgia On My Mind'

  • Comment number 39.

    #32.... Bandwagon????? Morrizzzzzzzey???? Ingratiate?????


    Looks like ThingFish has taken the bait

  • Comment number 40.

    #37

    There was no prospect of me getting a Nobel Prize at all - agreed, the message is positive, but the delivery is quite downbeat - perhaps the point I'm trying to get to is that what made the collaborations work was Lennon's sarcastic wit pitched against McCartney's saccharin sensibilities. i.e. McCartney: 'It's Getting Better' Lennon: 'It Couldn't Get Much Worse'.

    To be fair, John wrote the most positive song ever recorded, imho, but post Beatles, in my view,neither of them attained the heights they achieved together - in fact, with rare exceptions, John's solo work was rather dull and self indulgent, I thought.

    It almost heresy to say this, so far from getting a Nobel Prize, it'll be ex-communication for me.

    regardez - vous

    henri

  • Comment number 41.

    Rogers and Hart...'Where or When'...Dave Edmunds version from his very fine album 'Get It'.

  • Comment number 42.

    Mann & Weil...

    Come On Over To My Place ~ T. Drifters

  • Comment number 43.

    #39 Thank you DC 鈥 you responded! #2 also refers.

    There are two types of listeners for this show.

    1) Those who like to hear their name mentioned and get their choice on the radio by picking artists and songs that BB will obviously play. These are obvious because they are played all the time on the show.

    2) Those who, perhaps forlornly, hope that the fact that the music is allegedly picked by listeners and not the 大象传媒, will hear something interesting and new to them 鈥 not the stuff heard on radio all the time.

    Henri previously confessed to being the first type. I am the second type. I might even be a minority of one but I don鈥檛 think so. I am trying to make this programme more eclectic. I am trying to create a stooshie on the blog. Am I wasting my time?

    Kill ugly radio: Frank Zappa

  • Comment number 44.

    the book is open as to which lennon/mccartney song gets an airing.
    betfred is offering great odds on............

    'i'm happy just to dance with you'.........................

    everybody goes out on a friday to the dancing is the reason for the short odds.others will be boiling an egg(previously on the blog....no names).

    #43 @ ya T-F too late. yer doon as a revisionist. that's not a good thing.

    btw the #43 used tae go from ruchill tae cathcart. fers please.

    cheers frae the dale

  • Comment number 45.

    #44 Explain

  • Comment number 46.

    #43

    Relax, you'll never make this show truly eclectic but due continue with the good fight.

    B.T.W. one Producer apparently has world radio domination in their sights and canvasses鈥 for GIO across the Americas whilst on annual leave, what a professional!

    J.Z. to P.A.

    鈥淭ake a note and quick about it!

    Must link the new overseas accomplishment metrics by maintaining high-quality customer relationships to our Performance Management incentives鈥

  • Comment number 47.

    #43

    I dont think you can divide listeners (or requesters) into just two types, T-F. Of your two extremes, I think there are a fair few categories in between.

  • Comment number 48.

    #43
    yip TF ... new = fresh / predictable = stale

    Gamble & Huff (The pioneers of Philidelphia Soul)
    'Cowboys to Girls' ~~ The Intruders

    Holland - Dozier - Holland
    'You Keep Me Hanging On' ~~ Vanilla Fudge

    Boyce & Hart
    'Last Train to Clarksville' ~~ The Monkees

    Sherman Brothers
    'Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious' ~~ Julie Andrews & Dick Van Dyke

    Rodgers & Hart
    'Blue Moon' ~~ Beady Eye


    All deserving candidates ...

  • Comment number 49.

    #40

    I agree with you. On his own, and apart from bits of Imagine, Lennon was a serious underachiever.

  • Comment number 50.

    Chaz Jankel + Ian Dury...from the album 'Mr Love Pants...

    'The Passing Show' - Ian Dury and the Blockheads. Asked for it loads, never played, it's good!

  • Comment number 51.

    There's a lovely little film called "Grace of my Heart" loosely based on the early career of Carole King and centres around the famous Brill Building and the songwriting teams like Goffin/King who wrote some of the greatest pop hits ever in that pre Beatle golden age.New songs were written for the film but in the style of those 60s gems.The "centrepiece"song was written by Burt Bacharach and Elvis Costello and is an absolute classic.If only Dusty had recorded "God Give Me Strength"that would have been something else but Elvis Costello's veinbursting perfomance is brilliant anyway and the lyrics are uncannily like Hal David's sophisticated style,Genius,Cheers,Willie Bartke

  • Comment number 52.

    Speaking of the Brill Building I was saddened to hear of the death last year at only 68 of the great Ellie Greenwich who along with Jeff Barrie penned absolute classics including my (and Brian Wilson's)favourite pop song ever"Be My Baby" by the Ronettes. They also wrote "Da doo Ron,Ron"Leader of the Pack" and "Chapel of Love"and many others.Truly great pop songwriting,Cheers Willie Bartke

  • Comment number 53.

    #51 it's a really good film and that song is one of my favourites...made me like Elvis Costello again!

  • Comment number 54.

    #43 "

  • Comment number 55.

    Try again

    #43 "get their choice on the radio by picking artists and songs that BB will obviously play"

    I'm not in the first category hence my repeat requests. It took eight attempts to get Rab Noakes 'Don't keep passing me by' and 14 attempts to have anything by Gilmour played. I seem to recall a major campaign to get Oi Va Voi aired

    Sycophants? Sick o' tryin mair like

  • Comment number 56.

    #53,Same here Julie and bravo to him for taking on Burt's famously difficult to sing melodies with those really tricky key changes that Bacharach/David's muse, Dionne Warwicke tackled with consumate ease.Much as I admire Bacharach,why is he feted so much and Hal David who wrote those wonderful lyrics hardly mentioned?Cheers ,Willie Bartke

  • Comment number 57.

    Siouxsie Sioux & Steve Severin:

    Siouxsie & The Banshees - Christine

  • Comment number 58.

    #43

    Steady, Thing-Fish :-)) When did I say that?

    I am the kind of listener who requests music that I like. I think that is the point of a musical request show. I have never requested a piece of music or song that I don't like or requested a track simply because it was 'on theme'

    According to Captain Ramius's stats, The Beatles are the most played artist on the show. I like The Beatles and their songs fit quite a lot of themes, tonight being one of them - but I don't endlessly bang on about the Beatles any more than anyone else bangs on about their favoured artists.

    There's a guy on here who has been banging on about Jack Bruce's solo work for two years with no result, but you can't keep everyone happy.

    Popular music gets selected because it's popular - and there is a lot of popular music that I like. Perhaps my taste is in my mouth, but when I look back over the requests I have made, I think they are quite varied.

    I don't agree that an endless list of obscurities is eclectic - that's just different and potentially, narrow minded and elitist - the opposite, in practice, of an eclectic broad based programme.

    Perhaps you're confusing me with Jim frae Erskine who used to argue against my carping that it was unfair that Greggary Peccary's requests for Zappa were routinely ignored.

    The only listener I have a problem with is the one who requests things they would not have played at home.

    And, it was DC's campaigning about ' Live In Gdansk' that originated 'Pigs Might Fly' on the original theme - less Friday show.

    I'm not sure what you're trying to say, except that they should play things you've requested, which is fair enough. Of course they should.I've always thought it odd that democracy should be thought to have something to do with musical appreciation, but on the night, in the studio I suppose the team are drawn to what's popular, what's known and what's safe - that way, everyone keeps their job. This is live radio remember - news broadcasters aren't expected to have news stories flung at them randomly - they are well briefed and rehearsed long before going on air - so to deal with the plethora of info coming in across various media and remain ordered, calm, focused and coherent must be quite hard going.

    If anything, I think Bryan tries to search out the interesting where and when he can, and although we all imagine he is obsessed with 80's, Scottish Bands of the 80's and Country, the playlists don't bear this out.In fact, this week's 'juke box jury' show produced some really duff reasoning and choices which is a small demonstration of how difficult it must be why a camel is a horse designed by a committee, unless it's designed by a committee of bloggers, of course:-))

    Besides, I heard a Thing-Fish shout being played a couple of weeks ago?

    regardez youse

    henri

  • Comment number 59.

    Felice and Boudleaux Bryant:

    Everly Brothers - All I Have To Do Is Dream

    Buddy Holly - Raining in my Heart

  • Comment number 60.

    I'm on a roll tonight.Totally love all those Brill Building classics.Must be all those"Mad Men"dvds I'm watching!Goffin and King were just great especially there songs about New York like "On Broadway"and the brilliant "Up on The Roof"wcich brings me to... ahem..Laura Nyro the great songwriter whose only US hit was ironically "Up on The Roof" beautiful produced by Arif Mardin,its the best ever version.Please get it on ,Bryan,Cheers ,Willie Bartke

  • Comment number 61.

    when all is said and done its a great show.
    hot from betfred................
    late lennon and mccartney runner............

    'ps i love you'.....................a tenner each way sees a drink sitting on the bar

    cheers frae the dale

  • Comment number 62.

    in at the death......i'm frynin' chicken southern style but you can smell it in this great song.........

    'sunday mornin' comin' down'..........krisstofferson/cash

    cheers frae the dale

  • Comment number 63.

    #58 Well said, Henri.

    It's not an exact science, what gets played. If we choose to assume there is some murky malevolence out there, trying to skupper better shouts, naturally, we will feel disenfranchised, somehow. There's no accounting for summat............... But why choose to go down that road????

  • Comment number 64.

    New posting, always a better plug whatnot. toodles.

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