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The generation game...

Bryan Burnett | 19:57 UK time, Thursday, 12 January 2012

From Lambeth Walk to London Boys, tonight's show was a whirlwind tour of the Olympic city. We had some really fun things on tonight's playlist ( Pop Goes The Weasel) alongside some genuinely brilliant bits of songwriting. Rainy Night in Soho was a great showcase for Shame McGowan. I think the amount of suggestions we had tonight proved that London, like New York is an inspiring city for musicians of all kinds.

Tomorrow's classic album is My Generation and I'm looking for the artists who you think summed up your generation. As we have such a broad range of age groups who listen to the show we could end up with either Joe Loss or Justin Beiber.

Comments

  • Comment number 1.

    Shame McGowan?

    Surely shome mishtake ☺

  • Comment number 2.

    FRIDAY



    The opening track on what is, IMHO, their finest album...


    -


    I commend it to the House!

  • Comment number 3.

    Frantically trying to think of something non-obvious. The band that sums up my formative years and that have endured in my music collection is Talking Heads. I'm not sure that they sum up a whole generation but I like them!

    Talking Heads - Cities

  • Comment number 4.

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    I think we should combine Bryan's words above with this interpretation of the theme.


    I wonder what the Dark Side will be telt?


    >8-D

  • Comment number 5.

    I'm looking forward to some more specific themes next week

    My generation? Pick any song from the past 50 odd years. But OK, let's play the game here.

    Which song sums us up? Ermmmmm......

    Howz about overweight, middle-aged folk who look forward to their summer holidays?





    Fat old sun - David Gilmour

  • Comment number 6.

    I used to have a

  • Comment number 7.

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    BEAVER! No return!


    >8-D

  • Comment number 8.

    Can someone clarify when my generation began?

    Like DC, I feel I've got 50 years to choose from.

    What age does it start from?

    Or is it when you started to get interested in music?

    regardez youse

    henri

  • Comment number 9.

    Please Mr Burnett, sir, I don't understand the question.

  • Comment number 10.

    Never mind. Listen to . It's got Brian Matthews and it's better than the album version (early use of fuzz box).

  • Comment number 11.

    Grumpy so and so's

    Bowie defines my generation perfectly. The artist that I grew up with - a new and exciting lp almost every year of my life. Engaging and thrilling me with each new release and change of musical direction. His first lp was released a few years after I was born but in a way that was perfect timing because once he hit top form I was at the point of listening, mainly through my older brother. He was enigmatic, his sexuality was vague and exciting. But always the music was first. A run of lp's that I will always contend are matched by very few. By the time he hit his 1980 release he was at the height of his powers. A true innovator, never conforming. And after ten to twelve years of excellence he released this:

    David Bowie - Ashes to Ashes

    Wow.

  • Comment number 12.

    My generation, always looking forward to better things.

  • Comment number 13.

    Including learning how to make iPads do what you tell them to do....

    The shape of things to come - Headboys

  • Comment number 14.

    Like others I have a sense that a series of songs or atists will resonate with any given "generation" at various points in time, and I therfore feel quite comfortable offering my normal list:
    Love is a drug - Roxy Music
    Born to run - Springsteen
    Rip it up - Orange Juice
    Money for nothing - Dire Straits
    Night fever - Bee Gees
    Happy - Travis
    Here I am - Steve Earle
    The rising - Springsteen
    This is us - Harris/Knopfler


    Joe
    Linlithgow

  • Comment number 15.

    i'm in the fortunate position of having a name for my generation.
    its called the 'baby boomers'.
    born of the ww2 and post ww2 years in an age of social change and progress whos philosophical foundation was based on a loose practice of marxism a dense deep analysis of where the human condition was and where it should aim for.
    the uk experience was of a heavily diluted marxist form but with a strong grassroots socialist/social democratic backbone.
    so my generation was raised on a belief of some defined pure political philosophy which as the generation has aged has developed into some populist imitation/corruption of its initial vision.no judgement is being made about that journey.

    the 'pop' culture doesn't exist in a vacuum and there is one band who,through their own musical travels, sum up this social development perfectly......from a pure form of their musical vision to a more accessible popular version.

    fleetwood mac.
    themselves a 'baby boomer' band.
    who started as a pure form of bluesy/rock/quite challenging kind of band.
    a few purges of the artistic politburo later a bout of hedonism and a new sound emerges....but still called the same band (which in itself mirrors the political footwork of the british communist party and the publishing of 'the british road to socialism' which ditched a lot of the previous hegemony).
    so there we had it, fleetwood mac's own road from purity to playing at the all singing all dancing clinton inauguration..........
    a musical journey to match the social changes of the past 7 decades,no judgement is being made about that journey although there may be grumblings in highgate cemetery.

    'say you will'......................fleetwood mac

    cheers frae the dale

  • Comment number 16.

    #10 Bryan Matthews still sounds the same. What a guy.

    FRIDAY

    the song that sums up my life so far:


    I Don't Know - Kassidy

  • Comment number 17.

    Henri and DC are right that you are part of "a generation" from the day you were born onwards. However, I think we know BB is looking for Billy and Norrie's idea of
    "formative years" and "artist I grew up with" sort of thing.
    Still think "Eggs" was a goer though.

  • Comment number 18.

    #15

    Very deep, DK, but is it not simply the case that today's anti-establishment is tomorrow's establishment? One thinks of the politically motivated so- called 'alternative comedians' who put the knife into the likes of Benny Hill and who today are pillars of the mainstream entertainment industry.Twenty five years later, Ross and
    Brand's 'edgy' humour turns out to be plain old chauvinist smut.

    Hence Bryan's dispute with his former bosses on the relative merits/influence of Paul McCartney and Paul Weller.

    Both are good songwriters. Both, in their time, captured the zeitgeist.

    At the time Bryan was arguing about it, Weller would have held the 'zeitgeist', no doubt, and been viewed as the epitome of cool. But however good the songwriting, in reality, musically and stylistically, the Jam did not offer anything particularly original: the post-punk reinvention of 'mod' but with an 'angry young man'/ social comment/ conscience grafted on to it. But then, I've got a couple of years on Bryan - personally, I found the Style Council more entertaining and good fun, albeit again,musically derivative - but there's nothing wrong with that.

    Lennon, Mccartney and Martin did do things that were highly original, though they would be the first to argue that without Elvis, there would be no Beatles.

    Ask Paul Weller what influenced him? Answer 'The Beatles'.

    Sub conciously, everybody plaigerises everybody else, even as they form a style that is unique to them.

    So, none of it matters - 'every generation throws a hero up the pop charts': but it's pretty transient -so much of this generational thing is about the triumph of style over substance - ( hence The Style Council) - music being associated or categorised with a style of dress or political viewpoint which prevailed when you were young - which is why as you get older, you just appreciate the music for what it is, rather than the baggage that goes with it - it opens the mind and allows you to appreciate diverse things, previously culturally impossible to consider, or at least, it should.

    Musically, that distance of age allows me to appreciate Jack Bruce,Nitin Sawhney,Karl Jenkins, Bobby Womack,Tift Merrit,Christine Alligator and Jessie J in equal measure - (as it happens JB is big fan of CA).

    The internal debate is about sentimentality, the memory of youth and what you're prepared to be loyal to, on the one hand, and - on the other - what you have come to appreciate intellecutally,without the historical baggage and nostalgia for a sepia tinted golden age.

    Perhaps there is not one 'generational moment' but a whole series of them: the baby boomers have tended to live ever changing lives, each life brings forward it's own unique circumstances each with its own generational associated musical memories and nostalgias.

    So, the whole 50 years then: a list of generational moments from the lives of henri hannah. To follow.

    That's Entertainment!

    reagdrez - youse

    henri

  • Comment number 19.

    I think The Who were more of an influence on Weller.

  • Comment number 20.

    #19

    (from Wiki)

    Influences

    Weller has stated a wide range of influences throughout his musical career, frequently listing The Beatles, Dr Feelgood, The Kinks, The Who, Small Faces and 1960s and 1970s soul music.
    [edit] Legacy

    During the Britpop explosion in the mid-1990s a number of fledgling bands, such as Oasis, Ocean Colour Scene and Blur, cited Weller and The Jam as a major influence. As a new generation of bands emerged, Weller was again noted as an influence by bands such as Hard-Fi, Arctic Monkeys, The Enemy and The Rifles.

    ie Everything is influenced by everything else...

    regardez youse

    henri

  • Comment number 21.

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    My generation's nightmare was nuclear annihilation. To some degree it still is.

    Alas, the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction does not faze those who believe they are doing God's will.


    Breathing -

  • Comment number 22.

    #3 Non-obvious = not played

  • Comment number 23.

    #18 Erra dozy segue!

  • Comment number 24.

    Ye soured graze

  • Comment number 25.

    #21 we never worried about anything at all

    One Toke Over the line - Brewer & Shipley

  • Comment number 26.

    #18 @ ya hh

    the beatles definitely defined a generation in a way the jam didn't who really just defined a 'sound' of sorts.
    the beatles electrified and transformed everyday life in britain.
    i'm surprised nobodies suggested dylan/simon and garfunkel/scott mckenzie.there's loads that could be said as to why their music chimed with the times.
    as for the 3 named comedians(?). pass.

    cheers frae the dale

  • Comment number 27.

    Dr Who type re- generational moments from the lives of henri hannah:

    musical awakening: Twist & Shout - The Beatles
    Badge - Cream

    long haired teeager: Meet Me On The Corner - Lindisfarne
    Moonage daydream - David Bowie
    Pyjamarama - Roxy Music (this is special)
    Stay With Me - The faces
    Give Me Some Truth - John Lennon this is special.

    Student: Money - Pink Floyd
    Let Me Roll It - McCartney
    Stir It Up - Bob Marley & The Wailers


    Real Job/Career: I Wish - Stevie Wonder
    Don't Stop - Fleetwood Mac


    Engaged What A Fool Believes - the Dobie Brothers

    Married: Do Nothing - The Specials

    The Businessman It's My Life - Talk talk
    Shout To The Top - The Style Council


    Married With Kids The Boy In The Bubble - Paul Simon

    Separation/Divorce The Rhythm Of The Blues - Mary Chapin Carpenter
    You're Not The Only One - Love & Money


    Born Again Bachelor: Release The Pressure - Leftfield

    Rediscovered Contentment Days Of Fire - Nitin Sawhney this is special

    Zietgeist NOW! Contented blogger: If God Did Give Me A Choice - the Leisure Society ( this is special)

    Each of of these were separate lives, each with their own generational moments.

    regardez youse

    henri

  • Comment number 28.

    #25

    Gaie,

    Seriously strange song! What does it mean?

  • Comment number 29.

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    Geezo! A dry user...

  • Comment number 30.

    Oh I wouldn't know, SG. Another song that sums up my generation I always think is

    The Hedgehog's Song - The Incredible String Band

  • Comment number 31.

    Did I correctly hear Barbara say tonight that a bore is a man who, when you ask him how he is, tells you.

  • Comment number 32.

    Ìý
    Deh ken.

    Ask Adam after Alison Again.

  • Comment number 33.

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    I don't eat haggis. I don't drink blended whisky.


    I have been known to sample the occasional Islay malt...

  • Comment number 34.

    31

    how was Mars?

  • Comment number 35.

    #34

    It'll be bigger than Beauly Denny but I do believe a terraforming project is possible but obviously subject to IP3 approval & surveys.

  • Comment number 36.

    #34 & #35

    Having dubbed "Roxy John", I was feeling rather chuffed that "MadMetrosexual" had also been established.

  • Comment number 37.

    Adam,

    As a enlightened, modern, renaissance conscious type of guy I always say "never say never!"


    BTW When in space I had to shave more than my face and exfoliate and moisturise daily!

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