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Pretty poor show. I saw about three hundred there, if you included the kids, passer byes press and politicians gofers.

Seeing as 720,000 people will be "affected" by this change, you have to wonder why there were not more.

Could it be that not all are as narrow minded as come Cornish nationalists?

Dave the rave wrote:-
"Could it be that not all are as narrow minded as come Cornish nationalists?"
The "Cornish Nationalists" who spoke at the rally:-
Councilor Adam Killeya, Mayor of Saltash
Councilor Edward Andrews, Mayor of Torpoint
Counselor Mrs. Pat Harvey, Chairman of Cornwall Council
Sheryll Murray MP for SE Cornwall (Conservative)
Steve Gilberet MP for St Austell and Newquay (Liberal Democrat)
Jen Forbes, Vice-Chair of the Cornish Labour Party
Councilor Roger Creagh-Osborne, Cornish Green Party
Trevor Coleman MEP for the "South West"
Mick Paynter, Grand Bard of the Cornish Gorseth
Councilor Andrew Long, Cornwall Council, and Deputy Leader of Mebyon Kernow
All desperate dyed in the wool Cornish Nationalists?
Just who is being "narrow minded"?

Well your attempts to twist the facts by describing the above as "Cornish nationalists" does two things Paddy.

One is it shows how devious you nationalists are.

Two it just goes to highlight the fact that people were not taken in by the nationalist claims that this was anything to do with changing the borders of Cornwall, as so few turned out.

The people you list above were very careful not to make any reference to "changing the border of Cornwall" in their speeches, were they not Paddy?

The people I call "narrow minded nationalists" were the sort of people who actually heckled some of the speakers you name there/ We all know who did that don't we.

Were you actually there Paddy?

Dave the rave wrote:-
"Well your attempts to twist the facts by describing the above as "Cornish nationalists" does two things Paddy."
I am sorry the sarcasm seems to be lost on you.
The point I was making, was that this is a cross party campaign, and not, as some would attempt to portray it as, a nationalist one. As many of the speakers there yesterday made a point of saying.
Yes, I was there. Were you?
Who else spoke?
I also know that no-one I have spoken to thinks that changing the electoral boundaries is actually changing the border, but all agree that it is a weakening of the border, a back door step towards changing it. It is the erosion of the border, the significance of the border, that is being protested against.

Dave the rave wrote:-
"The people I call "narrow minded nationalists" were the sort of people who actually heckled some of the speakers you name there......."
So, are there nationalists that you would not call "narrow minded"?

"I heckled the two Westminster MPs much to the disgust of many (MK people and a Cornwall Councillor) but I really don't care."

(Michael Chappell, The Thin Man)

"鈥�.Seeing as 720,000 people will be "affected" by this change, you have to wonder why there were not more鈥�.."

The vast majority from devon yet the one thing you can not see or hear is anyone from devon just the extremists from the west who are not affected by this. The press are now allowing them to form an imaginary barrier at the Tamar even though it use as county line is very recent

That鈥檚 the problem with modern day press allowing the fringe to invent things, like the amount of people who attended and forgetting Cawsand and Kingsand as the former county line.

Mr. Tregantle, I posted a list above of the speakers at the recent rally, I am sure that they will appreciate your accusation of them being "extremists". There has also been a list of those who support this campaign posted elsewhere on this blog, a list that was a direct copy and paste from the website :- and, again, I am sure that those supporters will appreciate your opinion of them.
You might not agree with the aims of, or reasons for, this campaign, but your continued insistence that those connected with it are all extremists is denying reality, offensive, and is actually a display of your extremist opinions.
Time to get your head out of the sand Mr. Tregantle. This is Cornwall, and a lot of people are proud of it, even if you're not.
This is Cornwall, and a lot of people want to protect it and see it flourish, even if you do not.

That website that feeds you tremmy attracts nutters, just reading the comments confirms this, best example I have is where do you live Trembath?

Penzance

Exactly, this has nothing to do with what is taking in Saltash. If you look at the botton right hand side of that nutters page you will see a sign stating penzance to saltash 9.50 return on the train.

That is where the nutters are. Confirmed by the page you linked here. But as usual you are ignoring the core of my Comment, nowhere is anyone from Devon moaning just the nutters from down Penzance way

Once again, a nice polite response, that concentrates on the matter in hand, and in no way attempts to insult or abuse.

1/ No website "feeds" me.
2/ To define "nutters", I suggest you look in a mirror.
3/ Playing around with my name is just childish.
4/ Just because you disagree with the comments left there, does not mean that the writers are "nutters".
5/ I live in Cornwall
6/ I do not live in Penzance
7/ This issue effects Cornwall as a whole, Saltash is, for now, the centre of the campaign.
8/ Your "point" regarding the cost of the train fare, is completely irrelevant.
9/ I am not "ignoring the core of my Comment", it is being obscured by the insult and abuse that you seem incapable of communicating without.
10/ This campaign is not about Devon, but about Cornwall. However, there are a vast number of other campaigns, throughout the UK that are addressing the effects that the proposed legislation will have on their areas, and there is mutual support amongst them. You claim that there are no complaints from Devon, but equally, I see no organised support for it either.
11/ It has to be pointed out that if, as you are implying, this has nothing to do with people from "Penzance", and only those from Saltash, why are you so concerned, and what has it got to do with people from Devon, a group of people that include those living not just in Plymouth, but Exeter, Paignton, Barnstable, etc, none of whom, according to your logic, are effected in this in any way. Your argument is full of holes.
12/ As I have said elsewhere, it is high time you made up your mind just who is "behind" all this, the "nutters from down Penzance way", "Chavs from the local council estate" or the friends of the concerned MPs. Or is it a case of you just not liking anyone.

Actually, your comment "nowhere is anyone from Devon moaning" is not quite true, is it.
"Labour MP for Plymouth Moor View Alison Seabeck: 鈥淚t鈥檚 essential it鈥檚 not an authoritarian edict from on high, and that they do listen to what people say on the ground.鈥�"
Not exactly an indication that all is happy on the eastern side of the border.

I should point before tremmy wets the bed any further. The website I was referring to as feeding him is the one he brought into the debate here and all over as being his source of everything, on another thread he asks Andrew to Ask them (doh!-)



People affected by the changes (EAST CORNWALL) can protest but people living in the deep west are not going to have foreign blood mixed with the pure Cornish blood, even for a vote, so why travel up to Saltash?

The answers is the blood not a vote, which has nothing to do with the motivation of the protest and never once mentioned by the MPs, the nats had to find an excuse to pretend to have popular support when in fact they failed, I am not going to respond to the rest of tremmys splurge and attempt to give it meaning until he learns how to respond or make comments in a more adult manner after properly reading what people have said and stop posting propaganda thinking it is a reliable source, he clearly does not know the meaning of unbiased

"unbiased" = free from bias; especially : free from all prejudice and favoritism : eminently fair.
I know what "unbiased" means, from the look of your post above, you clearly do not. I have added the definitions of a few more words that you seem to either not now the meaning of, or do not care.
"Offense" = a lack of politeness; a failure to show regard for others; wounding the feelings or others.
"Abuse" = to assail with contemptuous, coarse, or insulting words; revile.
"Insult" = to treat with gross insensitivity, insolence, or contemptuous rudeness; to give offense; offend.
"Childish" = in the manner of, belonging to, or suitable to a child; foolish or petty; puerile.
Your post above is highly insulting, it contains insinuations that are plain disgusting and despicable, and is loathsome in the extreme. Why the 大象传媒 allows you to post such bigotry is beyond me.
You have no wish to debate or discuss the issues, just peddle your gospel of hate wherever you can get away with it. You disgust me.

A possible subject for protest that politicians, (or chubby Celts, for that matter), won't be touching with a barge-pole.

'Cornwall Council cutting 拢10m of front line services'

Recently I have read both Graham and Gary call nationalists comments retarded

#12 is a fine example of this, which is rather a shame because I suspect not all nationalist are so simple and have much better literal skills than copying sections of dictionary to a blog

Moderation team before you delete this comment please read comment 12, I will not be commenting on trembaths comments anymore I feel his endless fighting is not the function or concept behind these comments pages

Slimslad wrote:-
"A possible subject for protest that politicians, (or chubby Celts, for that matter), won't be touching with a barge-pole."
Until the proposed cuts are known, it is difficult to target any protest.
However, it seems that there is no other choice but to cut, at least the council are giving people, including politicians and "chubby Celts" the opportunity to offer their opinions as to where they should fall. It remains to be seen how much notice will be taken.
I hazard a guess that there will be strong support for a reduction in the salaries of some of the higher ranks of Council employees.

How ironic Peter I just came to the same conclusion

Front line sevices will be cut,P_Trembath.

Excuse me! "Services"!

Peter Tregantle wrote:-
"Recently I have read both Graham and Gary call nationalists comments retarded"
By Graham, do you mean Graham Smith, who's blog this is? If so, I would like to see a link to such comments as I am sure that Graham is far more polite than that.
And Gary who?

Peter Tregantle wrote:-
"#12 is a fine example of this, which is rather a shame because I suspect not all nationalist are so simple and have much better literal skills than copying sections of dictionary to a blog"
They say that when a person resorts to insult and abuse in a debate/discussion, it is a clear indication of them having lost.

It was before you started this incursion of every thread with meaningless sludge, why not ask them I am sure they both agree they have used the term retard to describe the commenting style that the majority of nationalists use, no doubt you will seek great joy reporting it back to HQ

I am sure both based their opinion on comments like recently made on another thread here.

"鈥winkle twinkle little star, what you say is what you are鈥�"

That鈥檚 restarted way for an adult to act

Mr. Tregantle, where, a link, or thread name perhaps.
And Gary who?

Its like rainman

Peter Tregantle wrote:-
"Recently I have read both Graham and Gary call nationalists comments retarded"
Where, a link, or a thread name perhaps?
And, Gary who?
Or is this another example of you making things up, and putting words into others mouths?

And PT will scrawl away in the back of his book Gary and Graham were rude to nationalists,

- its Graham forum - live with it -
and do your own research,

I also read the comments, if I recall correctly it was a compliment to person more skilful at blogging and a person who does not need to create personal fights if that鈥檚 any help, so Peter is not making it up and you even commented about Gary's comment, memory of a goldfish

(In an attempt to override the negative presence here, let's try again)

C1. Dave the rave wrote: Could it be that not all are as narrow minded as come Cornish nationalists?

C6. Me The vast majority from devon yet the one thing you can not see or hear is anyone from devon just the extremists from the west who are not affected by this

The two key points are this action to lower the number of MPs has been hijacked by the nationalists and the Cornish MP's concerned. The MPs have walked a line which has alienated them from being able to stand should the borders change. Thus for them this is all or nothing, or as I call it call a friend

Peter Tregantle wrote:-
"Recently I have read both Graham and Gary call nationalists comments retarded"

Where, a link, or a thread name perhaps?
And, Gary who?
Or is this another example of you making things up, and putting words into others mouths?

Any negative presence here is yours, I do not recall a single positive comment from you.

鈥溾��.(In an attempt to override the negative presence here, let's try again)鈥︹��

Peter it is not possible

Once this troll starts stomping around killing comments. You are fully right nobody from Devon is so small minded and egotistic to care, most see the benefit of saving tax payers money

"Once this troll starts stomping around killing comments."

It really is just stomping, it is rather boring, forums are used to advance peoples knowledge, and I find myself disappointed when I see Trembath has started yet another fight. For a person so vocal about the Cornish movement I note he makes no comments on the extremist sites he sources his crazy mantras

So, still unable to provide a link then?