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Friday, 3 August, 2007

  • Newsnight
  • 3 Aug 07, 05:34 PM

From tonight's presenter, :

DARFUR
darfur1_203.jpgWe begin tonight with Sudan as the myriad Darfur rebel factions arrive in Tanzania for UN sponsored negotiations ahead of peace talks with the Sudanese government. After what was described by some in the media as Gordon Brown and Nicolas Sarkozy's diplomatic triumph of agreeing to send troops to Sudan, we examine the challenges facing the UN over its resolution on Darfur. Is there the international will to make it work?

Christian Aid has told Newsnight that the UN mandate is weak and the wording gives the Sudanese Government the chance to wriggle out of their commitments. They feel it could take over nine months to deploy the 26,000 peacekeeping troops and there isn't enough of a sense of urgency. Marry that to a seemingly reluctant support for the plan from Sudan's president who only last week accused Britain and the US of overplaying the problem in Darfur. I'll be interviewing the Sudanese Ambassador to the UN live.


REPOSSESSIONS
The number of home repossessions in Britain has risen by an extraordinary 30% in the first half of the year compared to the same period in 2006. Why is it happening now and is this an indicator of worse to come in the housing market?

EU CONSTITUTION
Then we turn to the big political story that's been rumbling and grumbling this week. Have crucial parts of the draft European Treaty been lost in translation or not? How different is this draft treaty - published now in English - from the old one, and do the changes justify the government decision to abandon its manifesto commitment on a referendum? Political Editor Michael Crick investigates and then the Europe Minister Jim Murphy goes head-to-head with his political shadow, Mark Francois, over the issue of a referendum.

POLITICAL BLOGS
Some may describe Newsnight's daily e-mail as a bit of a blog but it鈥檚 only an infinitesimal part of the vast blogging universe. It is especially populated in the US where it is now having a significant impact on politics. This weekend, starting today, each of the eight US democratic contenders will be at a big political blogging convention in Chicago. We delve into the world of political blogging with a leading political blogger here, Iain Dale.


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  • 1.
  • At 09:41 PM on 03 Aug 2007,
  • shella wrote:

How do we set up our own blogs and earn a living from it as they do in the states. Is there some kind of business association that would help one get started. Can you put details on the website?

It seems that as the media is becoming more accessible and interactive, this is a problem for existing broadcasters, as we become our own commentators. However rather than dumbing down as appears to be happening, this new technology, requires, the big providers like the 大象传媒, to upgrade their act, or sink in the swamp. Interesting crossroads in the medium and the message!

EU CHICANERY

You will be aware that the English-language EU dossiers (constitution and treaty) use "competence" in a totally un-English sense, to avoid mentioning "power" as such (to mask it draining away to bloody foreigners).

It might be instructive to find out all the other 25 words, used in the non-English dossiers, and see if they translate into English as "power".
If they do, Gordon should be told. Being a decent, open son of the manse, he would not want any Blair-like dodgyness in his dossiers.

  • 3.
  • At 10:32 PM on 03 Aug 2007,
  • hillsideboy wrote:

Further to the observation by 'shella'(post 1) in addition to the opportunity provided by Newsnight for members of the public to comment on issues aired in your programmes, the 大象传媒's main website provides 'Have Your Say'. These allow people to let off steam, but their infuence and organisation could be improved. 大象传媒's Have Your Say provides a means to 'vote' on the comments submitted, although the 大象传媒's power to decide what issues to offer, and to accept or decline comments, leaves this form of 'referendum' with a distinct bias (many would say of a Lefty-Liberal slant). Also, I have never known the 大象传媒 in any of its programmes to refer to this poll as a means of sounding out and stating public opinion on an issue of general interest. Instead, various programme presenters invite texts, phone calls and e-mail responses to items on TV and again exercise their discretion (bias) in which ones they choose to read out. Could Newsnight also provide a voting opportunity on their comments received and mention, (either in their blog, or in following editions of Newsnight) the main trend of comment based on the comments that received the highest support? That's what I would call interactive TV.

  • 4.
  • At 10:39 PM on 03 Aug 2007,
  • hillsideboy wrote:

Further to the observation by 'shella'(post 1) in addition to the opportunity provided by Newsnight for members of the public to comment on issues aired in your programmes, the 大象传媒's main website provides 'Have Your Say'. These allow people to let off steam, but their infuence and organisation could be improved. 大象传媒's Have Your Say provides a means to 'vote' on the comments submitted, although the 大象传媒's power to decide what issues to offer, and to accept or decline comments, leaves this form of 'referendum' with a distinct bias (many would say of a Lefty-Liberal slant). Also, I have never known the 大象传媒 in any of its programmes to refer to this poll as a means of sounding out and stating public opinion on an issue of general interest. Instead, various programme presenters invite texts, phone calls and e-mail responses to items on TV and again exercise their discretion (bias) in which ones they choose to read out. Could Newsnight also provide a voting opportunity on their comments received and mention, (either in their blog, or in following editions of Newsnight) the main trend of comment based on the comments that received the highest support? That's what I would call interactive TV.

  • 5.
  • At 10:51 PM on 03 Aug 2007,
  • Bill Bradbury wrote:

Foot & Mouth in Surrey!! Christmas will come early for the farmers?? Just watch it spread over the borders in to every county with bags of "Compy" for the farmers. Just talk to the travel/holiday/hotel industry in the Lake District over what went on up there in the last outbreak. There is still a lot of bitterness from those who knew what was going on. Remember before it came in farmers were complaining that they could not get 拢1 for lambs then under Government compensation it went up to 拢15 +.

Then the rain/floods has now pushed up the price of milk and vegetables. Remember the potato shortages in 70's and the price of chips in cafes never came down? Overheard 2 farmers in a pub (now demolished) near Tarleton (Lancashire) talking how they had a barn-full of them which they were spraying purple to keep the price up.
Once again another "disaster" which the public and tax payer will pick up the bill in increased prices as we will all in our insurances as the floods give Insurers the excuse to fleece us all.

  • 6.
  • At 11:01 PM on 03 Aug 2007,
  • Bob Goodall wrote:

Dear Newsnight

We should have sent troops immediately to Darfur. There is no excuse for not having done so

re Europe this is less important
Murphy, Francois, what about asking an Englishman for his views if you can find one

re Foot & Mouth
vaccination, vaccination, vaccination, vaccination, vaccination, vaccination, vaccination, vaccination, vaccination, vaccination

Bob

  • 7.
  • At 11:13 PM on 03 Aug 2007,
  • hillsideboy wrote:

Further to the observation by 'shella'(post 1) in addition to the opportunity provided by Newsnight for members of the public to comment on issues aired in your programmes, the 大象传媒's main website provides 'Have Your Say'. These allow people to let off steam, but their infuence and organisation could be improved. 大象传媒's Have Your Say provides a means to 'vote' on the comments submitted, although the 大象传媒's power to decide what issues to offer, and to accept or decline comments, leaves this form of 'referendum' with a distinct bias (many would say of a Lefty-Liberal slant). Also, I have never known the 大象传媒 in any of its programmes to refer to this poll as a means of sounding out and stating public opinion on an issue of general interest. Instead, various programme presenters invite texts, phone calls and e-mail responses to items on TV and again exercise their discretion (bias) in which ones they choose to read out. Could Newsnight also provide a voting opportunity on their comments received and mention, (either in their blog, or in following editions of Newsnight) the main trend of comment based on the comments that received the highest support? That's what I would call interactive TV.

  • 8.
  • At 11:16 PM on 03 Aug 2007,
  • S madge wrote:

Welcome to the new Labour?What do they stand for, who knows, even with
the sherriff of nottingham(Gordon Brown)at the helm, he thinks he has become God and knows best for Britain, I don't feel there is a need to have a Eu referendum.Shame on him why lie to the people he represents.Of coarse it is
important, as the whole Eu
deal was only ever a common market,and never voted in so germany france and any other country has any sort of say about any Issue of Britains.Shame on Brown who's only interest is finnishing his fathers
aims in Africa.The EU will kill Britain off.Yourfor fathers died in the war to keep Britain free,If Brown throws Britain to the wolves he should resign and get out of Britain.

  • 9.
  • At 11:21 PM on 03 Aug 2007,
  • Chris Hagar wrote:

In my PhD (Information Science, University of Illinois, 2005) I studied the complex information needs of farmers during the 2001 FMD outbreak and explored how information needs to be delivered for an effective crisis response.
One of my findings was that information from the government was often not forthcoming, was not delivered at the 'right' time and at the 'right' place and was often contradictory. In 2001 DEFRA made information available on their website when few farmers had access to the Internet. The challenges of a crisis is the effective delivery of information to many different actors - let's hope the government learns from the lessons of 2001.
Chris Hagar

  • 10.
  • At 12:51 AM on 04 Aug 2007,
  • shella wrote:

About foot and mouth, and bovine TB, etc, I am no expert, but is it true that it is simply like the animals getting an illness which they can recover from? The Masai tribe in Africa nurse their animals back from foot and mouth, to health, as they cannot afford to slaughter them. This animal husbandry, (always wondered about that phrase!)in fact strengthens the immunity of their herds, and, few calves to the disease. If this is true why did we kill all our animals?

It also would vindicate the arguments of the Buddhists to protect Shambo, the animal with TB, rather than kill it. The same is not true of BSE because it is a man-made illness created by feeding the animals to each other - ugh! Poor things. What on earth is going on? See - Newsnight could have a look at that one rather than just following the government line on it all, in this case - just a thought to keep us all in a job, when the blogs get going!

I don't think the 大象传媒 can be held responsible for the failings in our democracy which were rather cleverly shown up in the Hardtalk Interview on the 大象传媒 24 hour channel last night with Gadaffi's son. That could be shown again as the points he made are at the root of the political stasis in Western Democracy,

  • 11.
  • At 02:02 AM on 04 Aug 2007,
  • Hamid wrote:

I don't expect any critic to falsely give a ringing endorsement to a film because its director was murdered but the sheer joy the Review panel took in tearing apart Adrienne Shelley's Waitress was rather ugly. The worst moment was when Tony Parsons smirked as he said "we're being vicious about a film whose director was killed". And the rest, including Martha Kearney, went into another unfunny exchange ridiculing the film with "ironic" pie metaphors. I know Newsnight and Newsnight Review perceives most of its audience as being cold, cynical, Guardian reading, Islington dinner party types who like to laugh at anything amounting to humanity but to have a giggle about someone who was brutally murdered is beyond the pale. Incidentally, Sue Perkins was the only sensible person on the panel last week. She should be on every week as her intelligence and commonsense was sorely missed.

  • 12.
  • At 08:35 AM on 04 Aug 2007,
  • chris wrote:

Poster 9 - sounds like defra needs your advice - the main problem for defra is institutional culture - during an emergency, officials are distracted by the felt need to ensure their own survival within the institution i.e. to not get taken down by the crisis, rather than tackling the substantive problem i.e. getting out of the office and doing something other than nodding and grunting

NNR reviewers are desparate, it is starting to mimic the Royle Family - just a bunch of lazy dullards sitting on a settee chatting about TV!!!!

i gave up the fight, and watching the the programme, some time ago. we are offered a batch of self-appointed intellectuals (reflecting the growth of self-appointed ngo commentators in the current affairs dept.) who are actually just egotists with opinions and rarely floor me with their insight. GG should go back to feminism, there's plenty to do in this increasingly macho country and her opinions on the arts are forgettable, that large unfunny women who surely has repressed grievances that render her unable to complement another person without sucking lemons, is there for why exactly? I like the tranny, she's brill, but eko from the ICA is alot of what's wrong with multiculturalism - i.e. in denial about reality half the time, and various others just leave me wanting to eat cold porridge. what about Brian Sewell and some others who have a genuine understanding not just of a few words but of life, institutions, trends, and even eras that go back before 1990.

thanks

  • 13.
  • At 11:56 AM on 04 Aug 2007,
  • Silkstone wrote:

Europe Minister J. Murphy had either totally deluded himself into believing that what he was saying about comparative percentages was irrefutably logical, which it blatantly wasn't, or else he was simply trying it on with the entire Newsnight viewing audience.

The number of viewers taken in by his 'comparison' could be anybody's guess and Michael Crick might well be included among them.

Waving the telephone directory sized original Constitution document in one hand and a vastly thinner - probably half the bulk - Reform Treaty in the other, Mr Murphy points out, with evident disdain, the absurdity of claims that the smaller wad equalled ninety percent-plus of the other. Whether he meant by volume or written content wasn't mentioned.

The plain fact is that the Treaty document simply represents 100 percent of itself not ninety percent plus of the Constitution document either in physical size or text content; BUT, and it's a big BUT, it is also very much a fact that nine tenths plus of its content is to be found in the original, Constitution document.

The red lines demanded by the Nation outnumber the Brown/Blair so called red lines many times over and Brown ignores these at his peril.


  • 14.
  • At 12:05 PM on 04 Aug 2007,
  • JOHN PARFITT wrote:

EU bit an improvement on previous efforts but where was your research? Jim Murphy had his standard speech at the ready but his point of view on the significance of the 'treaty' especially the Charter of Fundamental Rights is not shared by his continental counterparts led by Margaret Wallstrom, Angela Merkel, Zapatero, Astrid Thors and Bertie Ahern. Well documented in mainstream eurosceptic think tanks eg Eurofacts 12/20-21 and LESC July edition [yes that's the Labour Party's own!]You must have summer interns queuing up for work. Try putting them on

John Parfitt

  • 15.
  • At 09:49 AM on 05 Aug 2007,
  • chris wrote:

Bill (5), I like your thinking. Yet again I have naively ignored the obvious - agric subsidies by the back door. DEFRA and the whole agri-politcial complex is made up of institutional politocracies that exclusively pursue benefits for farmers.

I have witnessed 'CAP by the back door' research first hand i.e. basically fly around Europe having 'meetings' (and nice meals) and then spend a couple of hours presenting 'findings' to EC reps who will never examine what those 'findings' are based on but 'trust' the 'observed need' for funding.

Bob (7) (isn't it a little patronising to put a person's user name in quote marks, like...why shouldn't they be called that?) anyway, you say there is no excuse for not invading darfur. well, how about the global backlash against all things british - as a result of having invested time and money to rescue an entire nation from a dictator?

until we move out of dead end postmodernist thinking and start valuing our culture and achievements we will continue to gradually self destruct as the LCZ (liberal comfort zone - not a left-right divison more of a shared political class ethos) acts on every sour grape criticism that is made of brit pol.

  • 16.
  • At 12:07 PM on 05 Aug 2007,
  • shella wrote:

Having been sent to the Newsnight Gulag - ie banned from blog.

Just testing to see if it was some kind of techno-issue or to do with something I said?

  • 17.
  • At 12:37 PM on 05 Aug 2007,
  • shella wrote:

Think I have been rehabilitated so will try to comment on latest Foot and Mouth debacle for your Monday night programme.

The Senior Vetinary Officer - Debbie Reynolds reminds of Donald Rumsfield during the Iraq War. Gore Vidal wrote of him as being "Rummy" a stand-up comedian. Her defence, of the complete idiocy of Defra, with even the smallest cull being necessary at all, defies belief. It ranks alongside "Rummy's" defence of the Iraq war. As some kind of doubletalk humour!

The strain of the disease may have escaped from the lab - link not established, but there is really no other explanation, and I failed science!

To add to the debacle the vaccine, which they have produced from this research and supplied to all the the other EU countries, is not available now in th UK!

Even though another spokesman admitted on Saturday that "there will be outbreaks" of this disease from time to time - we get flu too. Maybe its all that rain which gave them a cold, together with the complete lack of "bio-security" at Defra's lab. Poor facilities are probably due to the first round of Thatcher cuts in public spending, when another incident occurred some 25 years ago. (David Cameron take note) The Defra vet then said on Saturday "It would take a few days" for them to develope the vaccine for immediate use in this country. It should therefore be ready for use by now or is Defra taking the weekend off? Cattle should not be killed any more but vaccinnated immediately.

Why isn't the vaccine developed for emergency use as a routine precaution. Why isn't vaccination taking place this minute as a precautionary measure?

I phoned Defra as a concerned member of public on Sunday at 2 am to be told that no-one there knew anything about the situation, vaccinations or up-to-date info "out of hours". No doubt the farmers who have had their cattle killed are having sleepless nights too! There is a cure for this illness - the Masai in Africa have developed one!

Who is to blame and who is going to be sacked over this gross negligence on the part of Defra - Debbie Reynolds?

  • 18.
  • At 03:49 PM on 06 Aug 2007,
  • J and J Krankie SNP Country wrote:

Scouts in 100-year celebration Party

Famous ex-Scouts include Prince Andrew, Syd Barrett, John Major, Jeffery Archer, David Beckham, Sir Richard Branson, Sir Paul McCartney, Neil Armstrong and Jeremy Paxman.

Did you go Jeremy ?

Dib Dib x x

The Krankies

  • 19.
  • At 07:00 AM on 09 Aug 2007,
  • Frank Lamosa wrote:

John Bolton is part of the same group of people who pushed, at all costs, including through the manipulation of information, for the invasion of Iraq. I do not what kind of credibility he has, so I am perplexed why he keeps on popping up as a guest on Newsnight.

Moreover, he has a habit of trashing questions/questioners that are inconvenient rather than providing an actual counterargument.

Finally, I will grant him that Iran has certainly benefited from the invasion of Iraq, having eliminated a potential rival, so why is he not challenged on this? While we cannot go back, I certainly think he should have his credibility questioned. After all, his contention is that Iran poses a serious threat to the region, which while probably correct, would never have been an issue if the invasion, which he pushed for, had not taken place (especially as the evidence he purported to exist was already known a priori to not be particularly reliable).

  • 20.
  • At 08:50 PM on 21 Feb 2008,
  • wrote:

With regards to repossessions increasing by 30% in 2007, how does that compare to this year? according to the council of mortgage lenders they are predicting a 40% rise this year!!

  • 21.
  • At 11:46 AM on 09 Apr 2008,
  • wrote:

Yeah!! (Wrings hands)! Nice blog you have here. I've enjoyed much reading your last posts. Keep it that way.

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