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  • 30 Nov 07, 05:33 PM

Dodgy donations
alexander_harman.jpgNow Paul Green, the Jersey based businessman who helped fund Wendy Alexander's uncontested election campaign to lead the Scottish Labour party has released a letter from Ms Alexander.
In it she thanks him for his donation. Given that she addressed the letter to Jersey it casts doubt on her assertion that she thought the money had come via a Glasgow based firm connected with Mr Green.
If she knew the donation came from "offshore" then surely she knew it was an illegal donation? Can she continue as Labour leader in Scotland and was either her brother Douglas Alexander, or the Prime Minister, in the loop on this one?

Meanwhile Harriet Harman, who's due to have a fundraiser, next week in Leicester Square to help with her election campaign debts, is on the rack. The Electoral Commission has contacted Harriet Harman's office to seek clarification of how she funded her election campaign. As David Grossman reported last night on Newsnight, only one loan, an overdraft facility for 拢10,000 taken out in October last year has so far been reported. Is she having such a bash simply to pay back that loan? Michael Crick and Paul Mason are digging deep.

Siberia
Imagine living in a town surrounded by hundreds of square miles of frozen forest, which used to serve principally as a place of exile for political dissidents. Khanty-Mansiisk 1,400 east of Moscow has a population of just 60,000 people but now it's Vladimir Putin's show town. It's been allowed to keep the majority of its vast oil revenues and it's a boom town with a state-of-the-art hospital, university, performing arts school and many shiny new buildings, and a birth rate of twice the national average. People are flocking there even though the temperature can drop in this Siberian province to -40. Tim Whewell went there to witness the boom times for himself, in advance of this weekend's Russian elections which Putin is almost certain to win.
Read - and watch him try out the local hospital's cryotherapy chamber here.

Newsnight Review

Brad Pitt as Jesse JamesJoining on Review this week are , and .

Up for discussion: Brad Pitt in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford - a lengthy title for a lengthy film; the 大象传媒 documentary series dogged by controversy before it was even screened - The Monarchy: The Royal Family at Work; Dame Vivienne Westwood's cultural manifesto; and the Wellcome Collection's exhibition on Sleeping and Dreaming.

Join Martha and co on the sofa after Newsnight and read about the above and more on the .

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  • 1.
  • At 06:52 PM on 30 Nov 2007,
  • mary tobias wrote:

Where in large print is an area where I can comment on the female teacher illegally held by the Sudanese

  • 2.
  • At 07:19 PM on 30 Nov 2007,
  • chris wrote:

Very good point Mary. I think the whole thing is so sensitive at the moment the beeb want to keep things quiet and understandable so.

Mary/Chris

Our colleagues on the main 大象传媒 news website have been seeking people's opinions about the jailing of Gillian Gibbons in Sudan. We try not to duplicate online discussions.

You can join in the debate by using the following link:

Or going to the Have Your Say website here:

Kind regards

Ian

  • 4.
  • At 08:04 PM on 30 Nov 2007,
  • Simon Shaw wrote:

Sudan would have had more prominence if it wasn't for the on-running donations story, but it does worry me that there's been no mention of the teddy bear. What happened to it? I hope it's safe.

  • 5.
  • At 08:19 PM on 30 Nov 2007,
  • neil robertson wrote:

After the 'Cool Britannia' party in Downing Street, one of the biggest cheers from the crowd of onlookers watching the celebrities stream out
was for Vivienne Westwood ... Given that most of that crowd were Oasis fans that struck me as interesting?

  • 6.
  • At 08:25 PM on 30 Nov 2007,
  • David Nettleton wrote:

What I don't understand is why national politicians need external funding. What do they do with the money? If legislation prevented any donations from private sources to political parties, how would our democracy be the poorer?

  • 7.
  • At 08:36 PM on 30 Nov 2007,
  • neil robertson wrote:

After the 'Cool Britannia' party in Downing Street, one of the biggest cheers from the crowd of onlookers watching the celebrities stream out
was for Vivienne Westwood ... Given that most of that crowd were Oasis fans that struck me as interesting?

But they also thought Lenny Henry was Frank Bruno ......

  • 8.
  • At 08:43 PM on 30 Nov 2007,
  • J Eccles NW London wrote:

Word is the party is now not going ahead

The Party's Over maybe ?

Interesting ! if true how things can crash like this..The food looked good too..

  • 9.
  • At 08:49 PM on 30 Nov 2007,
  • J Eccles NW London wrote:

Difficult to post this but try again

Word is the party is now not going ahead
Shame when these things crash and things go wrong - if this rumour is true
Food looked good too

The Party may well be over then ?

  • 10.
  • At 10:33 PM on 30 Nov 2007,
  • Jonathan wrote:

The term 'Walter Mitty' is being applied by the government to David Abrahams. This is a reference to a rather obscure short-story by James Thurber published in 1939.

Is anyone else with me in remembering one other instance of this use recently... when the government described the weapons expert, the late Dr David Kelly?

I'm not suggesting a direct link at all, but the phrase certainly has an unhappy history.

  • 11.
  • At 11:09 PM on 30 Nov 2007,
  • Liam Coughlan wrote:

Interesting report from Siberia. In the United States and elsewhere, revenues from oil translate into dividends and higher share prices for investors. At least there is some evidence that the oil boom is bringing benefits to citizens in the form of better hospitals. Just compare the typical NHS hospital and its waiting lists to that featured in the report.

  • 12.
  • At 11:23 PM on 30 Nov 2007,
  • Bear Withme wrote:

That was an extremely interesting feature from Siberia by Tim Whewell. Have more reports about Russia on Newsnight please.

  • 13.
  • At 11:36 PM on 30 Nov 2007,
  • neil robertson wrote:

How revealing that the Shadow Tory Education Minister Michael Gove is
under the clear impression that Ed
Vaizey is the 'Conservative Shadow
Culture Minister' who will decide
on which bits of Vivienne Westwood's Manifesto will be taken on board by the Tories ... rather than his boss
the vacuuous Jeremy Hunt???!!!!!!!!

I say ditch the cardboard cutout monkey; and promote Ed the organ grinder .....

  • 14.
  • At 12:15 AM on 01 Dec 2007,
  • chris wrote:

If Abrahams produces the thank you letters, its explosive. Where on earth can the Labour party go after that.

  • 15.
  • At 12:27 AM on 01 Dec 2007,
  • Puzzled wrote:

It would be good to know that some means might be found to fund our politics without being dependent on schmoozing rich people. Just as advertisers affect the media by their willingness or otherwise to buy expensive advertising space or time wealthy people can hold parties to ransome. That prevents having a party with concern for the poorer members of society. So far, as tax payers we seem to prefer to pay endlessly to deal with bad behaviour rather than recreate suitable work for those who have little or no stake in society. Victorian Britain was very rich but many subjects weren't and there were gangs and footpads and the things Dickens complained of. Less inequality in the years after the war appears to have contributed to a more peaceful culture. The vast amount of technolgy does not appear to be leading to better communication, hence the conflict which fills our screens and lives as entertainment. Then we all post vast numbers of blogs which few will have time to read let alone respond to.

  • 16.
  • At 12:32 AM on 01 Dec 2007,
  • Len Burch wrote:

There is a mystery no-one in the media, seems to be considering, unravelling or making explicit.

We are told that Gordon Brown's campaign team did not accept a donation from Janet Kidd, NOT because they realised who she was, (as they must have as a previous donor known to many officials) but contra-wise "because they did not know who she was", because they "did not know the donor".

Now I find that the strangest reason for Brown not accepting her donation. For there is nothing in the law which says that you have got to know the donor, only that he or she must be on the electoral role and such-like different restrictions on acceptance. Knowing the donor is not one os them.

I cannot believe a donation would be refused, because the donor was NOT known. It hardly makes sense and seems to be the converse of what happened. If, as someone unknown to the Labour Party, I were to offer them a substantial donation, would they refuse it on that unknown basis 鈥 or if they must 鈥渒now鈥 me, then would they not accept it and find out more about me?

Can Parties afford to refuse donations simply on account of not knowing the donor and how can they always "know" the donor?. What does knowing the donor even mean? And why should any refuse to accept a donation on such a basis? And if any Party were only to accept donations from known and/or existing donors then how will they ever bring in new funds.

The whole answer of refusing the money because of not knowing the donor, makes no sense in itself. However Janet Kidd was not unknown to the responsible officials within the Labour Party. Would Brown鈥檚 team have said, 鈥渨e will not accept this money because we personally do not know the donor鈥, rather than asking the Party officials whether the donor was known, as those officials most certainly did know .

Sense suggests that the people concerned in that instance would, and did, more likely refuse a donation because they knew, rather than did not know, who the donor was. Janet Kidd鈥檚 donation was most certainly refused by Browns team because she was "known" to the Party officials, rather than that she was "unknown".

For we now know quite well, that top officials in the Labour Party did know who Janet Kidd was and is, and would hardly have told Brown鈥檚 team not to accept the money because she was unknown. Given that she was a past and generous donor to the Labour Party, then the whole idea and explanation that a donation from her was refused because she was unknown must be the biggest unbelievable nonsense yet - and indicates that Brown's team were not unknowledgeable innocents within those strange (as yet undisclosed) goings on.

I indeed suspect (because of so many undisclosed mysteries) that there is more to it, than simply matters of personal impersonalisation and non discloseue of the true source - but we shall (maybe) see.

But as in so many previous cases one finds ones鈥 own suspicions increasingly confirmed as more information gets dragged out; and you then find that what were previously issued statements are little more than deceptive spin 鈥 or hardly less than half-truths and untruths.

  • 17.
  • At 02:40 AM on 01 Dec 2007,
  • David Emmerson wrote:

I watched Tim Whewell's report from Siberia and contained within it was an almost missable moment that I found most depressing.

Governor Alexander Filipenko's response to the question about the potential of the regional effects of global climate change, that could lead to thawing of the vast extent of the region's frozen swamps and the subsequent release of massive quantities of methane into the atmosphere. The governor鈥檚 blas茅 response is to proclaim that a milder climate would be desirable and that with that, they can better appreciate their lovely new, Norman Foster designed architecture, paid for with their oil money.

Attitudes such as this will ensure that we will continue on our 200 year mission to dump 300 million years worth of stored carbon into the atmosphere.

  • 18.
  • At 08:32 AM on 01 Dec 2007,
  • steve wrote:

Sir, The Tories get hung up on sex scandals and Labour are always tainted by money scandals, t'was ever thus. When Blair and Brown distanced themselves from the trade unions and tried to become a Tory party this is a cosequence of that failed miserable policy, crawling to the CBI did them a lot of good as the heads of the CBI regard them as something that the cat brought in and just about suffer Brown's rambling monologues to the great God capatalism. It will all end in tears and, indeed, has.

  • 19.
  • At 09:24 AM on 01 Dec 2007,
  • Adrienne wrote:

Where do people spend their money? Tesco, M&S, Sainsbury, Waitrose/John Lewis? What's been booming in recent years? How large are their property portfolios? Where would people and the economy be without the benevolence of companies like Estates & Management etc?





  • 20.
  • At 06:03 PM on 01 Dec 2007,
  • csharp wrote:

the latest newsnight review with martha has not been uploaded yet? all the links give last weeks show?

  • 21.
  • At 09:46 PM on 01 Dec 2007,
  • rob wrote:

come on newsnight update the player + put last nights review on...

  • 22.
  • At 11:49 PM on 01 Dec 2007,
  • legs wrote:


Read/Red or Dead

Anyone out there?

Phantasmos

  • 23.
  • At 11:52 PM on 01 Dec 2007,
  • Len Burch wrote:

They are just as late putting up the "latest programme" of newsnight. When you go to it you find it is not the latest programme but the day before - and even long after the "latest programme" has past.

  • 24.
  • At 08:44 AM on 02 Dec 2007,
  • Adrienne wrote:

It's worth noting that section 54(6) of the 'Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act' (PPERA) effectively states that a 'principal donor' CAN make payments through a intermediary ('agent'/proxy) so long as the intermediary informs the receiving Party of the principal donor's true identity (see 54, 4-7 of the Act):

and:

First, it should be noted that it is legitimate for someone else to make
a donation on behalf of someone else. This means that Mr Abrahams himself has committed no offence as there is no obligation for a principal donor to identify himself if he makes a donation through an agent. That is the responsibility of the agent/proxy making the donation on his behalf. Nor are the proxies guilty of any offence if the Party officials receiving the donation registered the details as required in Schedule 6 Paragraph 2 of the Act (see above).

This has nothing to do with people 'knowing' (which is an equivocal, non-truth functional, intensional idiom of propositional attitude, i.e. a mental state), it's all about physically RECORDING (i.e. a determinate, physical behaviour) the name, address of the principal donor and date of the donation, by the responsible Party officials in their weekly/quarterly report.

So, what was registered in the Party reports and when was it registered?
This, surely, is what the public, or the police need to know.

To date, we haven't been told very much which sheds much light on whether anything illegal has been done at all, although several people in the Labour Party do appear to have been wrong-footed because of some people's unfamiliarity with the precise requirements of the PPERA and a desire to protect private information and not lose future donors?

Is this just dirty tricks/politics:?

"Hazel Blears, the Communities Secretary, used the issue of anonymous donations to try to damage the Tories last year when she was chair of the Labour party"

  • 25.
  • At 02:03 PM on 02 Dec 2007,
  • wrote:

WHO (WHAT POLITICIAN) CAN GIVE US THE FUTURE WE WANT?

It is obvious that the Brown government is in desperate trouble. In view of the years he spent undermining Tony Blair鈥檚 government, and telling us how brilliant he himself was, we may celebrate his downfall 鈥 as being well and truly earned! However, this leaves us with a serious problem; who or what should replace him?

Certainly, Gordon Brown has abysmal ratings for trust, surely the basis for any government, but so do almost all other politicians. David Cameron鈥檚 ratings in this area are not much better. More important, perhaps, Brown still scores better than Cameron in terms of his ability to lead the country.

Moreover, this position has been developing ever since the fall of the Thatcher government. It is, therefore, a potentially catastrophic time for all politics and all politicians; and that is important for all our futures. So who will save us?

Gordon Brown has, as predicted, reverted to type. He is a ruthless control freak, who wants to rule with a minimum of acolytes who agree with his every thought; well done Ed Balls. All of this should be no surprise. What we now know, however, is that 鈥 despite the decade-long publicity about how effective he is as a manager 鈥 he is grossly incompetent in all the areas he needs as a leader. Come back Tony Blair, all is forgiven; but of course he can鈥檛 return!

Whatever you may think about David Cameron鈥檚 well-promoted PR image 鈥 after all his prior career was in PR 鈥 we know nothing about his management abilities; he ducks all the difficult decisions. More important, he really has not been able to control his party, and 鈥 once in power 鈥 we must fear that the right wing will once more capture government. In any case, despite all the problems of Labour, his party鈥檚 poll ratings seem to be stuck at 40%.

That leaves the Liberals, but both the potential new leaders are as yet untried. The party does, though, at last seem to be benefiting in the polls from Labour鈥檚 troubles.

So, if not who, what can we vote for?

I think the only hope might be a hung parliament. The electorate seemed to be working towards this in the early 1990s, but the failures of the opinion polls, which wrongly suggested that the Labour was ahead 鈥 compounded by Neil Kinnock鈥檚 triumphal mass celebration (which also suggested they were already home) 鈥 led the voting in the wrong direction. Then, for the next three elections, they had Tony Blair; who, despite everything, they trusted to be an effective leader of the centre. At the next election they will have no similar safe choice, and I would predict that voting for a hung parliament might once more be on the cards.

Such a situation might allow the government of 鈥榓ll the talents鈥 which Brown promised. This resonated with the electorate; but there was never any chance that Brown, the ultimate control freak, intended this as anything more than a PR stunt. A real hung parliament would allow the real talents to emerge.

So, if you want to choose a better future, start voting (in the various polls) for the Liberals.

  • 26.
  • At 02:16 PM on 02 Dec 2007,
  • wrote:

It is obvious that the Brown government is in desperate trouble. Gordon Brown has abysmal ratings for trust, surely the basis for any government. Must we suffer his imcompetence for decades to come?
However, David Cameron鈥檚 trust ratings are not much better. More important, perhaps, Brown still scores better than Cameron in terms of his ability to lead the country.
Indeed, whatever you may think about David Cameron鈥檚 well-promoted PR image 鈥 after all his prior career was in PR 鈥 we know nothing about his management abilities; he ducks all the difficult decisions and his party鈥檚 poll ratings seem to be stuck at 40%.
That leaves the Liberals, but both the potential new leaders are as yet untried. The party does, though, at last seem to be benefiting in the polls from Labour鈥檚 troubles.
So, if not who, what can we vote for?

  • 27.
  • At 02:23 PM on 02 Dec 2007,
  • wrote:

WHO (WHAT POLITICIAN) CAN GIVE US THE FUTURE WE WANT?

It is obvious that the Brown government is in desperate trouble. In view of the years he spent undermining Tony Blair鈥檚 government, and telling us how brilliant he himself was, we may celebrate his downfall 鈥 as being well and truly earned! However, this leaves us with a serious problem; who or what should replace him?

Certainly, Gordon Brown has abysmal ratings for trust, surely the basis for any government, but so do almost all other politicians. David Cameron鈥檚 ratings in this area are not much better. More important, perhaps, Brown still scores better than Cameron in terms of his ability to lead the country.

Moreover, this position has been developing ever since the fall of the Thatcher government. It is, therefore, a potentially catastrophic time for all politics and all politicians; and that is important for all our futures. So who will save us?

Gordon Brown has, as predicted, reverted to type. He is a ruthless control freak, who wants to rule with a minimum of acolytes who agree with his every thought; well done Ed Balls. All of this should be no surprise. What we now know, however, is that 鈥 despite the decade-long publicity about how effective he is as a manager 鈥 he is grossly incompetent in all the areas he needs as a leader. Come back Tony Blair, all is forgiven; but of course he can鈥檛 return!

Whatever you may think about David Cameron鈥檚 well-promoted PR image 鈥 after all his prior career was in PR 鈥 we know nothing about his management abilities; he ducks all the difficult decisions. More important, he really has not been able to control his party, and 鈥 once in power 鈥 we must fear that the right wing will once more capture government. In any case, despite all the problems of Labour, his party鈥檚 poll ratings seem to be stuck at 40%.

That leaves the Liberals, but both the potential new leaders are as yet untried. The party does, though, at last seem to be benefiting in the polls from Labour鈥檚 troubles.

So, if not who, what can we vote for?

I think the only hope might be a hung parliament. The electorate seemed to be working towards this in the early 1990s, but the failures of the opinion polls, which wrongly suggested that the Labour was ahead 鈥 compounded by Neil Kinnock鈥檚 triumphal mass celebration (which also suggested they were already home) 鈥 led the voting in the wrong direction. Then, for the next three elections, they had Tony Blair; who, despite everything, they trusted to be an effective leader of the centre. At the next election they will have no similar safe choice, and I would predict that voting for a hung parliament might once more be on the cards.

Such a situation might allow the government of 鈥榓ll the talents鈥 which Brown promised. This resonated with the electorate; but there was never any chance that Brown, the ultimate control freak, intended this as anything more than a PR stunt. A real hung parliament would allow the real talents to emerge.

So, if you want to choose a better future, start voting (in the various polls) for the Liberals.

  • 28.
  • At 03:36 AM on 03 Dec 2007,
  • Cyberegocentric wrote:

To Adrienne:

Dear Adrienne,

Having read others of your posts on the 大象传媒's site, I see you always dig information on a variety of subjects, including data which can be hard to find. I hope you will have one day your own blog or Web site awash with references enabling us to check facts the 大象传媒 and other good medias do not have the opportunity to share with us. We need more people like you.

Thank you!

  • 29.
  • At 09:38 AM on 03 Dec 2007,
  • The Krankies wrote:

ALEX Salmond could not resist a bit of a tease when he took the stand at the Glenfiddich Spirit of Scotland Awards, hosted by Kirsty Wark.

It is not that long since the 大象传媒 apologised for the "rude and dismissive" treatment of the First Minister in her Newsnight interview with him.

"Well it's fantastic to be here, ladies and gentlemen, with Kirsty; particularly great to be introduced by Kirsty and get a word in edgeways," Salmond joked, as the two stood at opposite ends of the stage.

  • 30.
  • At 04:19 PM on 03 Dec 2007,
  • harry wrote:

Why was Paul Morley immediately shouted down when daring to criticise the monarchy? Is that not allowed or something? It is a "review" show after all...

  • 31.
  • At 05:04 PM on 03 Dec 2007,
  • wrote:

Specialy for Adrienne:

LOW TEST SCORES BLAMED ON FAULTY INTELLIGENCE


more at ...

xx
ed

  • 32.
  • At 06:27 PM on 03 Dec 2007,
  • Adrienne wrote:

Ed, irony is often crafted to lead the unwary/sheepish to astray at their peril.

Charles Murray's trilogy (see links in link one below) on NCLB (the USA's 'Every Child Matters') deserves to be read with respect. The apparently earnest Lysenkoism on both sides of the Atlantic is deeply worrying given those who benefit from the predatory free-market. Note how Wall-Street and your spoof link, vilifies Chavez and Ahmadinejad etc).

Considering the very high levels of immigration on both sides of the Atlantic, their relatively low native 'skills', and the booming businesses promising to house and educate these people and their progeny, all one can say for certain is that some unscrupulous/entrepreneurial people are getting very rich on the basis of well placed investments and empty promises?

Educationalists, are, in my experience, some of the worst offenders in prmulgating the equality myth (see Murray's review linked elsewhere). Saying he's discredited incidentally, doesn't make it so, as there's no evidence for 'enrichment' having any long term positive effect any more than psychotherapy does. Telling it how it is, is, however, bad for business.




  • 33.
  • At 08:38 PM on 03 Dec 2007,
  • Adrienne wrote:

If/when one reads Murray's articles and the criticism, please bear the following in mind:

1) 'The Bell Curve' (1994) was not about race and intelligence, it was about class and intelligence (race is just a class which features in this).

2) Contrary to what critics allege, the technical basis of 'The Bell Curve' was Richard Herrnstein's work. Herrnstein was Skinner's successor as Professor of Psychology at Harvard. He was also the author of what was known as 'the Matching Law' in Behaviour Analysis, perhaps the core principle in Behavioural Economics (one element of which is the 'hyperbolic discounting function' which describes behaviour we colloquially refer to as self-control/impulsivity). Behaviour Analysis is the most austere, descriptive, atheoretical domain of behavioural science, it is also, paradoxically, the most poorly understood and hardest to teach.

3) Herrnstein did not make statistical or logical errors in 'The Bell Curve'. One should regard allegations to the contrary with great suspicion. The basic facts reported in 'The Bell Curve' have been repeatedly corroborated by a large body of international research since, and paint a bleak picture for the future of the developed world if currnet trends continue. The nay-sayers are at best ignorant of this, and are generally well-meaning, but usually unwitting, far-left Marxists. In Lenin's terms they are 'useful idiots', and are rarely data-driven. This would not be such a problem if there were not now so many of them, and if they were not doing so much harm to pupils and society, whilst benefiting predatory property speculators and entrepreneurs selling snake-oil.

  • 34.
  • At 05:42 PM on 04 Dec 2007,
  • Adrienne wrote:

"In it she thanks him for his donation. Given that she addressed the letter to Jersey it casts doubt on her assertion that she thought the money had come via a Glasgow based firm connected with Mr Green.
If she knew the donation came from "offshore" then surely she knew it was an illegal donation?"

Are we to believe that senior people in the parties scrutinise the contents of this sort of thank-you letter? Don't they rely upon their staff to make sure that when this sort of letter crosses their desk that their juniors have done their jobs? That's the way it works in the Civil Service is it not?

As I said in #24, surely, what matters is whether the proper clerical/registration procedures have been followed by those whose job it is. This is usually a much lower level duty is it not?

Is what we are seeing more a case of not being able to get the staff these days (which now seems to be endemic for reasons outlined elsewhere)? Or has the general public and media really dumbed down so far that they are labouring under the illusion that these senior party people really do run their bits of the country all by themselves?

If there is indeed evidence of false accounting, please can this be highlighted in detail.

  • 35.
  • At 07:41 PM on 04 Dec 2007,
  • rob wrote:

Please can you get hardeep singh kohli back on newsnight review, he has not presented for ages.

He adds something special to the programme and is hilariously funny

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