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So now the government wants to raise the length of time people can be held without trial from 28 days to pick a number of your own choice. Beware! The government says that this measure will only be used in exceptional circumstances but once its law it is very odd what counts as an exceptional circumstance. Remember the Prevention of Terrorism Act? It wasn't used against potential terrorists, it was used to arrest and remove a pensioner from a Labour Party Conference who was excising his right to free speech. 28 days is long enough.

Everyone who has read the 'Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy' will know that it was always going to be 42.

Why is Jackie Smith doing this? There is no evidence that it is needed- as the home affairs select committee have told newsnight repeatedly. What is the point in implementing a policy for which nobody has proved its necessity?

I suppose it takes the talks away from the donations problems- afterall, wouldn't want to really do something necessary and restore peoples bruised and battered trust in politics. Just remind Mrs Smith that getting on for half of those eligible didn't vote at the last election... I wonder why?

42 days detention needed to extract the 42 negative confessions perhaps?

On the Abrahams issue, does the fact that he now claims that he gave 'secret' (but seemingly all above board) donations to avoid the appearance of there being a 'Jewish Conspiracy' mean that there really is a Jewish Conspiracy?

Is LFI really the UK version of AIPAC? When Melanie Phillips comes out all irony blazing with a title like 'Britain's Goebbels moment', one knows that something's surely up, and that it's time for all good gentiles to start feeling guilty for ever thinking that something might be going on over dodgy donations ;-)

What are they conspiring to do now? Do they want us to bomb Iran now that the USA might not? Is Israel planning to do that and just needs a whip round for their 'ordnance'? Is it attention seeking behaviour by proxy so we'll sympathetically go out and buy some Amy Winehouse/Joss Stone albums? Or is it something even more dastardly like trying to make us all feel bad for having evil thoughts so that if Israel DOES go and....

...perish such 'anti-Semitic' thoughts...

Don't trust anything Jaclyn Smith MP says. She has betrayed the police pay and is now to betray British Civil rights.

these scenes are reminiscent of an early nazi germany. neighbours spying on neighbours. police with far reaching powers. all the more chance for liberties to be abused. the nanny state is going too far. whatever next! I.D Cards!

If Home Secretary Smith were to spend less time artificially manipulating headlines and pretending to protect us all with fatuous "security" measures, and spend a bit more time on real justice, perhaps Ms Holdsworth could be out before xmas. Go on Home Secretary - take 15 minutes off from your pointless "extend detention" campaign to watch Mr Sweeney's piece on a a blatant miscarriage of justice AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

John Sweeney's report on the conviction of Ms Holdsworth for the convction of a toddler she was babysitting was a shocking reminder of what incompetence, laziness and a rushed investigative and judicial process can do. I cannot believe that such important medical evidence was ignored. Cleveland Police appear to have set their sights on a PR exercise - get the conviction of a child killer and bask in the glory. Sweeney's interview over the phone with Ms Holdsworth was very emotional, it was nearly too hard to listen to. Ms Holdsworth's family were remarkably composed and dignified, including her 13 year old daughter, who would have been just 11 when her mother was convicted as a child killer. To see the lives of people shattered in this way makes me so angry. Keep up the good work John!

Abrahams...
"A roving donor gathers no Mossad"

I feel sick to the stomach....the corrupt police again. Yet another innocent person falsely imprisoned behind bars. A prosecution based on lies, false staements and with held evidence.

I'm talking about Suzanne Holdsworth. I watched the 大象传媒 Newsnight tonight and felt sickened. How many more times are those old fools who live in a different world, those geriatric baffoons we call crown court judges, going to be taken in by the lies of those evil, corrupt and low intelligence group of individuals we employ to protect us but who in reality are nothing more than criminals themselves. I am of course referring to the police.

I want to begin fighting back now. I want to help Suzanne Holdsworth be released from jail and exonerated from a crime it appears she did not committ. How do I do this? Where do I begin? Are there any campaigning groups out there fight her corner?

And what of those vermon who lied and put her behind bars just so that they could further their careers? Will they ever be brought to book for their ill deeds? Yes, and pigs can fly.

What a wonderful just, democratic country we live in.

The newsnight report on the Cleveland police investigation regarding the 'murder' and the subsequent conviction of the babysitter is shaky to say the least.

When you see the 'quality'of some of our police chiefs, like Brian paddock for example, who happened to appear on an earlier unrelated report, a man responsible for unleashing more misery than any neighbours from hell could have achieved in any given area, well the cack-handed investigation by cleaverland police into this sad case does not actually surprise me.

p:s did i hear right that the Lambeth ex police chief Brian paddock is a candidate/MP for the liberial democrats, that figures, when you consider what damage liberilism has done for the rest of us over the years..remember Roy Jenkins? yeah, another self proclaimed intellectual dimwit who unleashed his ideology(60s) with devastating consequences for the rest of us.

What is really depressing about the debate on detention without trial is its cold blooded nature. 40+ days in custody is enough to destroy someone's life, they can lose their job, their house even their family.

Yet if they are not convicted of anything, maybe not even charged, they have no right to compensation. The basic injustice of this does not out in the media discussion which remains abstract.

Sir, The police are well paid already compared to nurses, ambulance drivers etc., their housing allowance should come into the reckoning so before they go on a mass sympathy offensive let them ponder a few facts as there is very little sympathy for them out there. The police 'keep getting things wrong' and their top brass? Well, don't go there. Thank your lucky stars I say.

42 days based on hypothetical possibilities rather than evidence of cases?

You can't get a pelican crossing built on a busy road without a history of at least 2 people killed and a few cases of injuries.

sounds like an attempt to create a 'legal' mini gitmo?

I wonder if Suzanne Holdsworth who was convicted of murdering a child been middle class, would she have been better served by the criminal justice system? did cleverland police think this was a cut and dry investigation considering holdsworth social status. i.e poor working class, poor education, a bit rough at the edges, prone to been a bit loud. Was this general assumption of Susanne Holdsworth by Cleaverland police a factor in their rather loose investigation of the death of the young child? was the investigation thorough enough to gather all the facts.
I really don't want to bash the police every time a miscarriage of justice appears, i think the British police are still the best even with some of their failings but they do get it wrong from time to time, but this case highlighted by newsnight really screams at you as a faulty conviction. And i am a bit surprised by the little response on here, at least, of the clearly poor evidence gathering performance of the police into this investigation. It appeared to be a turkey shoot for the Cleaverland police in presenting the 'facts' to a judge and jury, already painting a picture of holdsworth as an unsavory character thanks to a prosecution team well versed in the art of discrediting the accused, and their ability to convince a jury laced with emotive language. was justice done?.. This case needs to go back to court.

I rarely revisit when i have posted already but felt the need to today. When reading the John Sweeny report on the 大象传媒 web site, his report ended with
"Since making that call, Suzanne Holdsworth has been disciplined by the prison authorities for talking to the 大象传媒 and her ability to talk to her family restricted."
well what is all that about. i did not think that could be possible. Holdsworth is punished for speaking to a 大象传媒 reporter on the phone, i am quite shocked by that. A good report by Sweeney, a man who has also been known to shout on occasions.

I am 100% behind the Cookie Ducker's amazement that there are not more people blogging, if not actually marching in the streets, after watching the excellent report on Ms Holdsworth and the apparent miscarriage of justice that has left her behind bars for over 2 years.

I too want to know how quickly I can start in the fight to get Ms Holdsworth's appeal brought forward.

The news this week has been nothing but coverage of the Labour's dodgy donation behaviour (again) and some unknown chappie who may or may not have fleeced a faceless insurance company for a few bob.

Ms Holdsworth's story should be at the forefront of all news media's attention. She is a real person who may be having her civil liberties grossly undermined, and with the new evidence available, she should be able to stand trial at an appeal again, and sooner rather than later.

Anyone who, after hearing from Newsnight the new evidence available and, more importantly, the evidence discounted at Ms Holdsworth's expense, would do well to read John Grisham's book, "The Innocent Man" this Christmas, as they glow in the company of family and friends. Gross miscarriages of justice do happen, and this may be another, right on our own doorstep. If this is the case, why should Ms Holdsworth have to suffer any longer than is humane?

大象传媒 News, do the right thing, and don't let this one slip the net.

to all in support of suzanne holdsworth the prison authoritys are making her life hell not just with cutting her phone of and all because she is innocent well its about time the british justice system had a revamp and as for the police well they get commendations big coverage and for what putting another innocent victim inside the jurys only told what the crown prosecution want them to hear to secure a conviction at least one detective did the right thing she knew what was going on and didnt agree with it sue is being held at h m p low newton brassisde durham dh1 5ya send her a christmas card help her get through christmas and if all goes well she will be home with her family next year

I'd like to support a free Suzanne Holdsworth campaign too. I saw the programme and there is no doubt in my mind (having been born and bred with the bourgeoisie) that there is systematic, xenophobic prejudice against members of the population not considered for whatever reason to be 'respectable'. Politics nowadays is all about creating penalities for not subscribing to this notion of respectablity, which includes environmentalism, multiculturalism, low alocohol consumption, not smoking or eating so-called 'junk' foods, as well as the obvious non-manual and l;argely non-physical/sensory lifestyle. The point I'd like to make is that what goes on in your heart - the extent to which you are a 'good' human being is precisely not related to any measure of 'respectability' except in the minds of those who practice that particular elitist form of British culture.

i think we should all send a letter to Mr jack straw protesting about suzzanne holdsworth another victim another innocent mother my my how the british justice system stinks lets not forget the jury found her guily and why they are only told what the cps wants them to know to secure a conviction
life must be hell for suzzanne
i am in 100% agreement that suzzanne should be released asap

i think we should all write a letter to mr straw telling him that the british justice system stinks
suzzanne holdsworth should be relesased now
another innocent person found guilty by the jury
a prosecution based on lies false statements and with held information
know wonder the jury find peope guilty with all the dirty tricks in court is it perjury from the police cps etc etc
then the police get comendations for a big coverage wonderful
i cannot imagine 1 day within those walls never mind a lengthy sentence
i feel so sorry for the family

For those of you who are interested in helping Suzanne Holdsworth please visit the carers4carers.co.uk website regarding someone else in a similiar situation. We should all fight together

I tried to make a point re Boozenight on the cost of other welfare issues as, for example, rich people who suffer sporting injuries aren't charged when they sign in at A & E, but your page wouldn't accept my cynical comments about doctors not being paid enough by the drug giants to prescribe liver replenishing drugs.

Re Basra; Lord Goldsmith ensured our early success and, as everyone else is empire building now, is it now time we started again?

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Thank you to you all for those kind words about the mother of my children, and a wonderfull person my partner Suzanne Holdsworth, Its been an up-hill battle but we are getting close, if anyone of you wish to show support Fri 29/02/2008, Royal Courts of Justice London 10:30 court 8, it would show Suzanne she has the support we all need.