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God I feel sorry for that pilot, but all credit it to him for landing it without injury to any passengers- it must have been terrifying!

Given that Newsnight Review is covering Sweeney Todd tomorrow why is Newsnight covering it tonight ? Bit of a excessive PR Puff some people might think ?

are we saying people are so bankrupt of ideas and arguments as to why democracy is superior to theocracy that anyone who even suggests democracy is not their ideal choice must be gagged because we have no rational replies?

1. what kind of democracy is that?

2.If you can't name three good reasons why a democracy is better than a theocracy then democracy deserves to lose?

3. why not have a studio debate with a 'this house believes a theocracy is a better form of government' type of question and see what happens?

or must there be a curfew on ideas?

As usual, people who just take isolated words from the Christian faith, often show what they do not understand about the Christian faith and say nothing about what, if anything, they do understand about the Christian faith.

This is not the forum to discuss the Christian faith. However, just to take one word which has been quoted; doing nothing about people being killed on the London underground, is NOT what the Christian faith teaches as 'forgiveness'. Doing nothing is just what an 'evil' person would want us to do, so that they can continue.

If anyone does not wish to believe the 'true' teachings of Christian faith, they do not have to look for excuses. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that it is compulsory. However, the Bible does teach that one day you will find out, whether or not you should have done!

Will someone please explain to me what is happening to my Country.Who has lost the plot? I meet many splinter groups with chips on their shoulder,of course they have WE fund them it pays them to retain this attitude with my money. Can I suggest as a Senior Citizen, that has been there done that ask a question,my money fund Government,this is a democracy,all groups joining us are welcome,BUT on our terms, JOIN BRITAIN,be part of our democracy,one law for all.Does that sound like your Britain? Lose Human Rights if you break the law of my land you are penalised, so someone explain why I am discrimianted against? Community means all,Government have set up a Faith Champion in each County legislation,or at least white paper,I want to cry, I employ Government to produce a basic service,not fund alternative groups to tell us how we are doing wrong,am I wrong???

Why do the bashers always quote the Bible, a book of fiction, are they so ignorant they cannot form their own analysis of the world's problems.

Boeing 777: crash-landing, an extremely silly piece. Why keep asking questions when it's clear that nobody knows yet and says so? The investigators will tell us in time.

Jacqui Smith & the Home Office's 拢350,000 to a 'Think Tank': To do what exactly? As said yesterday (a no show/yet to appear sadly) for many in these NGOs, this is just a nice little earner. One 'foundation' cooks this stuff up, and another 'policy group' rants about what should be done about what the other cooks up.

Yes Newsnight - The Home Office (and its USA and Israeli equivalent) fuels this. In fact, along with the FCO and State Department, their agencies, NGOs, etc, it creates it in the first place (with a little help in the way of daft education/immigration policies etc).

1."Radical Middle Way" is the ultimate oxymoron. Whoever approved public funding for this organisatio should have been warned of by the name alone.

2. The lady who suggested Government funding for mosques showed a naive and frightening lack of understanding of British assumptions about the role of places of worship. Sunday schools have never had Government funding. Her proposal could so easily backfire.

3.Immigrant communities need to work much harder to comprehend and to be sensitive to the culture of the indigenous,host populatio -- being a minority religion does not negate that courtesy. I make this point as an immigrant myself who is often dismayed by news reports about the troubles of present-day Britain

Plane: All this pointless speculation about the cause of the crash. Why not just wait until you can find out what the pilot has to say? You seem to have overlooked the fact that he is alive and will be able to give evidence in due course.

Muslims: Interesting that the Moderate Muslim lady stressed several times the aim of the government backed approach is to make young potential Muslim terrorists learn how they can change Foreign Policy by democratic means.

Implicitly it has been accepted that our governments Foreign Policy is the big issue among young Muslims.

Whereas there has often been a tendency to blame the Islamic Radicalisation on the Koran or envy of our modern middle class lifestyle or a hatred of dancing girls.

US BOMBERS have killed 2million people since the end of WWII, mostly civilians. Christian terrorism?

I abhor all violence and terrorism, but the only terrorism Newsnight found comes from radical Muslims.

State terrorism poses by far the greatest threat to freedom. This programme made no pretence at balance, it merely adds to the growing wave of anti-Muslim hysteria.

Amazing coverage of the Heathrow crash which has major implications for transport infrastructure - but
is also a reminder of the need for
very skilled pilots even when the
avionics are as sophisticated as they are (normally) in a 777 ...

Newsnight Scotland then opted out of Sweeney Todd The Demon Barber to give
over the whole programme to a report
from The Crown Estates (Queen Liz The First of Scotland) on proposals to circumvent the need for nuclear power in England by laying cables on the sea-bed from offshore windfarms in Shetland and the Western Isles to Norfolk giving Londoners the change to compete with the Dutch and the Scandiavians for ethical Scottish electricity exports .. Absolutely
no obligation on England to buy,
of course, but Sandringham seems
to be right behind the scheme as
is Professor Roger Crofts of The
Royal Society of Edinburgh. The
response so far from the Scottish
Government is also welcoming of a
piece of research which turns the
tables of the energy debate in UK
on its head if feasible. As Brian
Wilson spluttered in a Newsnicht
Scotland studio: "This is of course a thoroughly Unionist scheme" - but
Alex Salmond and his Energy Minister
Jim Mather may yet plug the energy gap and dig England out of a hole?

East Coast Transmission Network:
Technical Feasibility Study.

"Newsnight Scotland" gave over their whole programme tonight to a report by Crown Estates on the feasibility
of Scotland exporting electricity from renewables to London, Europe
& Scandinavia using subsea cables.

The SNP are cautiously optimistic;
former Labour Energy Minister Brian
Wilson (who these days has business
interests in both renewables and in
nuclear power) described this as 'a thoroughly Unionist scheme, of course' - but he interestingly stuggled to find fault with the logic of SNP & The Crown Estates;
and there was positive feedback from Professor Roger Crofts of The Royal Society of Edinburgh. Fascinating!

This perhaps deserves a wider audience south of The Border?

Left alone, the 777 can land itself. Problem is, the pilots probably went for a manual final approach. It appears that they failed to align the plane with the runway. The short sharp correcting left turn would have caused a fatal drop in altitude and thus the undercarriage struck the ground at an angle, shearing it off, rendering a usual landing out of the question. They were lucky, this time, and fortunately training took over and lives were saved' Whatever little misjudgement applied during the final seconds of flight, the evidence is a well drilled and effective evacuation that saved lives.

Pirating of fake replacement parts is big business especially in China where the government seems unwilling or unable to control it. They produce fake everything including fake automobile and truk parts, fake electronics parts, even fake drugs which appear so authentic even the manufacturers of the genuine articles sometimes have problems telling them apart...until they test them for efficacy. We won't know what actually caused the crash until the investigation is over. Often its several things simultaneously. It seems from preliminary reports that the entire electrical system suddenly and completely failed but even if it's true, we won't know for some time why. Fake parts? Incorrect maintenance procedure? Multiple or cascading component failure? Pilot error? At this point there is no way to know. It's hard to believe that at this stage of aircraft development, a design flaw could allow a single point of failure for a critical system to exist. You have to wonder if all 777s will be temporarily grounded until they know more.

In an Islamic land very far away, Christians lived amongst the indigenous folk who were called the Muslim. Thanks to the flying machines built by the Europeans, many Christ worshippers were flown in, and in many great numbers and over time, communities of the cross wearing folk built their churches on Muslim lands so that on Sundays they could worship their God. Within a generation the Bible bashers were demanding its host be more understanding of its culture and beliefs and to except many different branches of Christianity that had sprung up on their lands, from the catholics too the Waco branch of latter day saints incorporated. Whilst the indigenous Muslim folk started to feel concern for their own culture and religion, its own self appointed leaders funded a catholic website and allowed special treatment for the angry Christians who forever banged on about its host foreign policy... eventually the Muslims had had enough and kicked out the Christians....

Its odd that after the plane crash at Heathrow,and report into the government inadvertantly supporting possible terrorist websites, that should been a PR puff piece devoted to "Sweeney Todd" Johnny Depp's latest movie.
Surely the latest diplomatic spat with the Russians would have been more interesting than Depp considering you're reviewing the movie Friday night.

Boeing 777: crash-landing, a pointless piece - why keep asking questions and encouraging speculation when it's clear that nobody knows yet, says so, and investigators will tell us in good time? Kirsty did what any good investigator would NOT do. This is becoming far too common on Newsnight alas.

Which leads me on to Jacqui Smith & the Home Office's 拢350,000 or so to a 'Think Tank' - to do what exactly? As said yesterday (yet to appear sadly), for many in these NGOs, this is just a nice little earner, i.e. one 'foundation' cooks this stuff up, whilst another 'policy group' rants about what should be done about what the other's cooked up (it's like the virus anti-virus industry). Is it really a good thing to fuel all this?

The Home Office (and its USA and Israeli equivalent) certainly fuels this. In fact, along with the FCO and State Department, their agencies, NGOs, etc, it creates it all in the first place (with a little help in the way of daft education/immigration policies etc).

See Russia (coverage of which would have been more interesting than all of last night's content) where NGOs are rightly regarded as unaccountable, subversive, interfering, pains in the ....

This will give the 'lets have a new runway' lobby amunition for their Heathrow isn't big enough rant. Heaven forbid that we should ever look at different ways of transport infrastructure. If they got their precious new runway in four yeats they would say that it isn't big enough and on and on....but never ever address the real issue.

I agree that the plane crash story was 'silly'. Get a grip! Thousands were killed world wide on the roads the same day. This was a very minor incident. Leave it to the tabloids and focus on real news please.

It is heartening to see 2008 starting on a promising note with
Majid Nawaz and Ed Hussain forming the Quilliam Foundation.
This will allow the young and rising quails to chime a duet of enlightenment that will help roll extremism back. This promises a potential of expanding into a chorus
looping in Haras Rafiq and other aspirants of fame and fortune.
Any chance of these folk given a special slot say Viewsnight Review where they could have a stage for structured and scripted intercourse with patrons like Michael Gove, Douglas Murray, James Brandon, Dean Godson and Denis MacEion?
This will allow regular opportunities to discuss works like
Londonsitan, Celsius 7/7/, The Ismalist among others.

Yes,indeed, poor pilot, co-pilot and whomever else had involvement in bringing the plane and passengers down safely and ensuring safety thereafter. Well done and thanks to Lady Luck too.

Albeit of a different order of magnitude, let's spare a thought too for the reporters and presenters stuck on the treadmill of 24 hr Rolling News.

I'd sooner be offered re-runs of: These-are-the-facts-as-we-know-them-at-this-stage, than watch intelligent and experienced people having to (possibly) humiliate themselves by feeling obliged somehow to whip up my emotions for hours on end so that I won't switch off my TV. Sometimes, I think the 大象传媒 (in particular) can afford to declare that less is more. I'd like it to be so.

I don't think it was 'silly' to have the report of this event on Newsnight. It had to be included.
Thanks.

I just want to know whether Newsnight has a contract to show either Ed Hussain or Majid Nawaz on TV every other week????

Are they the only 鈥榚xperts鈥� they can find???!! This is ridiculous.

The fact that Newsnight cannot get any new guests proves that it is a dieing brand.

Liam Coughlan's explanation of the Heathrow crash sounds plausible but difficult to evaluate without knowing how qualified he is to express an opinion. As a survivor of the Kegworth crash my first instinct is to be wary of blaming the pilots. In the aftermath of Kegworth the pilots were used as scapegoats for an accident caused by a complicated combination of factors and I believe the pilots did the best they could under the circumstances. So far the Heathrow pilots have been treated as heroes, and this may well be justified. However there is one strange element which is that the pilots did not alert the passengers to what was happening. At Kegworth, even though the co-pilot was trying to restart the starboard engine and the captain was doing his best to coax the plane over the M6 motorway and onto the runway at East Midlands the latter still managed to make an announcement "Take positions for crash landing". No such announcement was made at Heathrow and the passengers were therefore denied the opportunty of taking the brace position. As a result injuries may have been worse than they needed to be.