Monday 1 November 2010
the prime minister somewhat unconvincingly told the Commons today as he expressed regret about describing a ´óÏó´«Ã½ licence fee freeze as "delicious" when he .
For unbounded joy then the PM should tune in tonight when Michael will have the latest on the political row surrounding the use of control orders.
The government had been expected to scrap the orders which are part of counter-terrorism legislation introduced in 2005 and restrict the freedoms of terrorist suspects.
Now there are indications that they might be maintained causing a major rift within the coalition government. The former Liberal Democrat leader Ming Campbell will debate with Tory MP Patrick Mercer.
Home Secretary Theresa May has made a statement to the House on the discovery of a US-bound bomb at East Midlands airport last week. The package, sent from Yemen, contained the explosive device PETN - an odourless, colourless powder - pushed into printer toner cartridges.
Initial tests did not pick up the explosive; it was only in the second search that the bomb was found. Theresa May announced that air freight from Yemen and Somalia is now to be suspended and that carrying large printer toner cartridges will be prohibited.
Tonight our Diplomatic editor Mark Urban will consider if there are security loopholes in the international freight business and consider if proposed measures to increase security would be possible to enforce.
Then we have a film from Peter Marshall who is in Florida to assess the impact of the Tea Party movement there ahead of tomorrow's mid-term elections. And we'll debate how divisive the campaign has been and how divided the US now is.
Gavin is in London and Emily is in Washington this evening - join them at 10.30pm on ´óÏó´«Ã½ Two.
Comment number 1.
At 1st Nov 2010, MaggieL wrote:David Cameron is due to chair....a meeting of Cobra. We'll be interviewing Jacqui Smith, Jack Straw and Alex Carlile who'll be telling us what David Cameron and the Coalition are doing wrong. We'll be pointing the finger at anyone else we can think of to blame.
Mark Urban will exaggerate the dangers we are in from terrorists and interview Malcom Rifkind who will be angling for "security" contracts.
Peter Marshall will be telling us why he doesn't approve of the Tea Party movement and will be interviewing other people who don't like it either.
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Comment number 2.
At 1st Nov 2010, U14653525 wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 3.
At 1st Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:#1
How do you know who's going to be interviewed tonight or are guessing. As far as T Parties go, for the time being at least I'm sticking to the UK one but from what I've read so far about the American one, I do not have much time for them and am sticking to the Obamas.
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Comment number 4.
At 1st Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:There is a cobra getting up to mischief
That's why it 's so vital the security.
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Comment number 5.
At 1st Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:#4 addendum
I wonder if a clever chap
Could have with it a sensory chat?
Though I doubt it a chat will be quite enough
As its brain is bound not to be that smart.
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Comment number 6.
At 1st Nov 2010, stevie wrote:what does Cobra do? Do they meet and have a cup of tea and say how can we frustrate and balls up the great British public when they go airside, makeup and eyelash pencils are naughty and should be banned and those belts will have to come off, so what if your trousers fall down, this is security mate and you don't argue,and you know we in England will stand for any indignity and wait for hours in airport lounges, we do that, we don't make a fuss...it is in our DNA, don't get stroppy and fall in line now if we had the same dilligence over freight!!!
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Comment number 7.
At 1st Nov 2010, U14653525 wrote:Meanwhile, on terrorism:
"Yemen has freed a woman suspected of mailing two parcel bombs destined for the US, saying she has been a victim of identity theft.
"Authorities concluded that this was a case of stolen identity by an individual who knew the detained suspect's full name, address and telephone number," a Yemeni official said on Sunday."
My emphasis.
In another story, Aljazeera reports that when asked why China supports Pakistan, China replied: ..
Pakistan, like Iran, has an interest in joining the Shanghai Cooperative Organization (which is not a Building Society).
Elsewhere, Stephen Fry draws attention to himself . Many women are apparently offended. But then, offended women are probably responding to their feelings and not their actual behaviour and objective evidence. Still, what's more real in the modern free world, feelings or facts? See other posts for context.
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Comment number 8.
At 1st Nov 2010, U14653525 wrote:"Ministers and officials are expected to discuss tougher checks on freight, after a bomb was found on a US-bound cargo plane at East Midlands airport."
Free trade except when it might affect national security. But doesn't trade affect national security? Hasn't trade been behind most international conflict throughout history? The number of half baked criminal acts we have seen in recent times gets all the news at the expense of the state of the economy.
80% of our economy is now Service Sector. 20% Public, and only about 1/10 of that is Central Government
Of CENTRAL government employees, (about 460,000), most (rough figures
follow) are employed in the DWP (107,000), Revenue & Customs (85,000) Home Office (25,000) Ministry of Justice (84,000) and Defence (76,000.
That's 377,000 of the 460,000 alone! Most of the Public Sector is elsewhere, about half of it works in health and education.
Our state is thus very small. IT REGULATES. Altogether, whilst the Public Sector is just 20% of the workforce the part that regulates is much smaller, tiny in fact, and ever shrinking as half the 6 million in the Public Sector delivers services like health and education. As the sector shrinks, regulation and services become scarcer and less effective. Our politicians, largely working in the interest of the Private Sector, want an smaller Public Sector so business is even less regulated.
See any problems given recent history? Bear in mind that there are only about 3 million people working in manufacturing, mostly light weight stuff too.
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Comment number 9.
At 1st Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:#6
Whose trousers? A girl's, a woman's, a boy's or a man's pair? As far as the eyes go, have you ever painted yours to depict yourself as a clown or do you expect others to do it for you?
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Comment number 10.
At 1st Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:#7
'see other posts for content'. - what for? to fall asleep? I'd rather finish the current President's of the USA book or read one the world's literary classics or a contemporary literary work to be honest,
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Comment number 11.
At 1st Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:#1o correction
I've just noticed that instead of 'context' I put 'content' though I don't think it makes any difference at all.
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Comment number 12.
At 1st Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:I bear i'n mind that things should be just fine
Just fine and occasionally much bright
Though not forgetting that life can sometimes seem dark
White and black, light and dark, rainbowy, shiny, funny or sad.
mim
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Comment number 13.
At 1st Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:Number 13 does rhyme with Queen
But so does 14, 15, 16 and 17,
18 and then 19 also rhyme with the word Queen.
The British Monarch, the UK's Queen
Sees the PM with interest keen
How to help Britain out of the mess
She Is our Monarch
No more or less.
However, She definitely possesses the extra touch
That's why so many love her so much.
mim
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Comment number 14.
At 1st Nov 2010, brossen99 wrote:Complain about this comment (Comment number 14)
Comment number 15.
At 1st Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:#14
I never check your links, brush,
Suspecting them of being trash.
What is a watch?
Well, it tells us the time
During the day, as well as night.
One can also enjoy to watch
Some people making a messy blotch
Instead of writing something exciting
For the mind getting valid nourishment
Whether on art or the establishment.
And how about the University Challenge
With many a student no doubt having a talent?
mim
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Comment number 16.
At 1st Nov 2010, barriesingleton wrote:OH HOW THE WORLD NEEDS LERTS. (#6)
You can't get on a plane with a toner cartridge. Priceless.
Have you heard? ALCOHOL is MOST dangerous, especially when you feed it to a tired, dehydrated, monster moron, IN MID-FLIGHT. So they ply the passengers with booze and throw the one with a toner cartridge out over the Atlantic.
And can SOMEONE train Teresa Kitten to STOP OVERPLAYING HER PART! If I hear 'it might have been intended to go off over Britain' one more time, I shall contact the Claptrap Standards Authority. I know these politicians pass NO RELEVANT EXAMS, but to Kitty's suggestion that we can draw any such inference, I say: "SHOW YOUR WORKING".
Has Dave closed any subsidised bars yet? Quick - close Westminster - alcohol is dangerous. Too late, the Court Cobra is hissed.
What a bunch of pledgers.
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Comment number 17.
At 1st Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:#16
The Court Cobra's awaiting a kiss
And yet you say it has now been hissed.
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Comment number 18.
At 1st Nov 2010, U14653525 wrote:16. At 6:51pm on 01 Nov 2010, barriesingleton wrote:
"If I hear 'it might have been intended to go off over Britain' one more time, I shall contact the Claptrap Standards Authority."
Still, with all this ineffective governance, like Quangos, governance itself could be dispensed with altogether perhaps? The Charities Commission only has 460 staff, and the FSA wasn't much better given the number of financial services it had to regulate. Somehow I think they want you to think them incompetent, as that gives them licence to dispense with more of the Public Sector. You're a blue blood Conservative at heart aren't you?
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Comment number 19.
At 1st Nov 2010, jauntycyclist wrote:what a dogs breakfast the govt is making of defence.
/news/uk-politics-11666320
rather than admit we are not the big bad empire and so develop soft power strategies cameron clings onto the redcoat myth. how sad.
the first line of defence is wealth. which means doing something about china economic piracy.
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Comment number 20.
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Comment number 21.
At 1st Nov 2010, jauntycyclist wrote:out of 19 posts 10 posts are by one person most of which make no sense. which in the blog makes a 50% noise to signal ratio from just one person.
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Comment number 22.
At 1st Nov 2010, turbojerry wrote:Watching how this government proceeds to take our liberties just like it's predecessor is like watching a new head of the Soviet Politburo continue with the same policies of sending those that disagree with them to a Gulag in Siberia, perhaps we can get Mikhail Gorbachev to form a political party in this country so we get some Glasnost and Perestroika here.
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Comment number 23.
At 1st Nov 2010, JAperson wrote:"They cause great offense to some communities ......."
So what?
Surely the greater community is more important?
Just whom do these people represent?
The few or the many?
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Comment number 24.
At 1st Nov 2010, guy evans wrote:screening ALL cargo? is that possible? escorting cargo with security staff?
in the mid 80s i worked at EMA in their cargo dept as an agency oik loading and unloading freight, often on and off of planes from Belfast (at the height of the troubles) and only months after the Greece plane bombing of TWA 840.
i drove to work, parked in a unstaffed par park, walked thru a doorway in a warehouse and was, airside, on the tarmac, unchecked by anyone in 5 minutes. if wanted to plant a bomb it would have been SOOOO easy. i do hope things are a little better now. or maybe not????
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Comment number 25.
At 1st Nov 2010, kevseywevsey wrote:Bomb Plots and printer cartridges. Why not just go ask the CIA and the other US covert agencies how this was funded, planned and executed...they've got form for this kinda stuff.
"Overwhelmingly white and middle class"...as opposed to the oppressed black and poor I suppose. Oh those white middle class teaparty folk eh!
Do people still get their news from the ´óÏó´«Ã½?
What ever happened to objective -as well as investigative journalism? Its out there but not on the ´óÏó´«Ã½.
Rand paul was accused of kidnapping a woman. He did not deny it because it was already proven to be a lie and was widely mentioned as such on the US media, it was just a standard issue smear campaign trick from the Democrats. Listening to Emily makes me wonder who wrote her brief notes, or does she just pick-up what she can from watching MSNBC.
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Comment number 26.
At 2nd Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:#22
As there are no gulags in the UK, it may have to be a rubbish bin,
Not so much for those who disagree with
The Nos 10 and 11
But for those who indulge in and propagate sin.
mim
not keen to follow 'Stalin' verbatim
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Comment number 27.
At 2nd Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:#25
While my impression is
In this respect the ´óÏó´«Ã½
Is getting better and better
At dealing with those who loiter
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Comment number 28.
At 2nd Nov 2010, Strugglingtostaycalm wrote:It's always embarrassing watching the faces of American guests, who don't know what to expect from the ´óÏó´«Ã½. I take my hat off to the ones who return.
I presume they see it as their duty to keep plugging away, in the hope some of the viewers come to understand the other point of view.
It's quite clear that you only ever get common sense and logic from Americans (even from the Left) - and a few Conservatives, on this side of the Atlantic.
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Comment number 29.
At 2nd Nov 2010, U14653525 wrote:"21. At 9:36pm on 01 Nov 2010, jauntycyclist wrote:
out of 19 posts 10 posts are by one person most of which make no sense.
which in the blog makes a 50% noise to signal ratio from just one person."
Gango was one form of disruption, and that which you refer to is another. Such are the 'agents' of Liberal-Democracy, a form of governance which paradoxically is designed not to work.
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Comment number 30.
At 2nd Nov 2010, JunkkMale wrote:1. At 12:00pm on 01 Nov 2010, MaggieL wrote:
As one who appreciates the ironies of who knows who knowing known knowns, appreciated.
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Comment number 31.
At 2nd Nov 2010, Mistress76uk wrote:Yay! A cure for the common cold at last :o)
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Comment number 32.
At 2nd Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:Nudge, nudge, rather than sludge, grudge or fudge
Says Lord Kerbs enciuraging people to make up their minds
Voluntarily as opposed to indulgent pestering
Which normally has quite the opposite effect
On those trying to get on with their lives
Being allowed of their own choices good pies
Rather than being swarmed by peripheral spies.
/news/uk-politics-11669664
mim
just on a whim?
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Comment number 33.
At 2nd Nov 2010, barriesingleton wrote:AND THE INSTIGATION OF MORE HORRORS? (#31)
Nature (in her WISDOM) designed us to survive, but with variable losses. Mankind (in CLEVERNESS) is trying to SAVE EVERYONE. But just look at the debility and, indeed, losses accrued from such a policy.
My doctor wants to give me a flu jab (I'm 73). 'Who' is is for?
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Comment number 34.
At 2nd Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:#31
Mistress76uk
I've looked at your link
But don't know what to think
About the viruses described as purple
While antibodies supposedly being yellow.
When I have a moment I'll get touch with the Fellow
Who either at random or on purpose abuses the rainbow.
mim
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Comment number 35.
At 2nd Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:#33
Singie
When I was a very little girl I had a baby brother who died of flu. If the cure had been found then, perhaps he would now be gliding and twirling on ice, or would have become another surgeon of the family, or a sculptor, a painter, a bishop or indeed a teacher, a real one though, not talking of all the grief that my Mum and the rest of the family had suffered.
You can be at times smart with your words, singie, but overall you are not smart enough to be a really great man.
Monika
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Comment number 36.
At 2nd Nov 2010, jauntycyclist wrote:Staines on Thames or SOT will be a big image improvement?
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Comment number 37.
At 2nd Nov 2010, barriesingleton wrote:LIFE ON THE SOUTH BANK (#36)
of the river Lambourne is grand Jaunty.
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Comment number 38.
At 2nd Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:#
SOT or a BIG SOD
Do you, 'nice' jaunty, incessantly blog?
It might be improvement for me and for he
But not for yourself, it does not seem to me.
mim, not abandoning a dream
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Comment number 39.
At 2nd Nov 2010, kevseywevsey wrote:Barrie. The flu jab will have mercury in it as well as other toxic agents. The Govt/s already have slow kills in the guise of processed food etc. The old are in the Govts way; taking up space and costing them daily. Make sure the plebs work most of their lives, paying the mortgage as well as all the Govt taxes. When the plebos retire with nothing to do (susceptible to illness they say) the Guv-ners nudge them to an early grave with the flu jab. The third biggest cause of death in the western world is doctor intervention (True, go look it up) I'm not sure what Number 2 is but I'm very sure Number one is X factor. Next time you have an infection - such as an ear infection, don't go to the doctor and take the poisons. Heat up an half onion and keep it to your bad ear fo a few minutes. Result we be your ear infection will be gone. They don't call me "doctor" kev for nothing you know.
Barrie, if you don't make the winter..can i have the contents of your shed.
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Comment number 40.
At 2nd Nov 2010, U14653525 wrote:30. At 08:33am on 02 Nov 2010, JunkkMale wrote:
1. At 12:00pm on 01 Nov 2010, MaggieL wrote:
As one who appreciates the ironies of who knows who knowing known knowns, appreciated."
I second that.
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Comment number 41.
At 2nd Nov 2010, barriesingleton wrote:ONION RINGS AND TINNITUS (#39)
The shed contents are pledged to you Dr Kev. Trust me.
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Comment number 42.
At 3rd Nov 2010, mimpromptu wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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