Wednesday 1 June 2011
Nato's Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen has said that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's departure from power is "only a matter of time". Tonight we hear from the 大象传媒's Andrew North who has spent the past few weeks in Tripoli.
We have a film from our correspondent Tim Whewell who is in Egypt - where a court has set a date for the trial of former President Hosni Mubarak and his two sons, Alaa and Gamal. Tim has travelled to the Sinai peninsula, the wilderness area that separates Africa and Asia, which he finds is awash with arms and increasingly unstable since the uprising which toppled Mr Mubarak in February.
And Jeremy will be speaking to Booker prize winning author turned political campaigner, Arundhati Roy.
Join us at 2230 on Two for all that and more.
Comment number 1.
At 1st Jun 2011, museV wrote:The War on the English
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At 1st Jun 2011, Mistress76uk wrote::p It's hardly surprising that there's instability in The Sinai! You got rid of Mubarak, and now The Muslim Brotherhood & Al-Qaeda have taken his place.......so much for so called "freedom," and now with the Egyptian Rafah crossing open, it's going to get worse.
:p and the snoozeworthy Roy on later who was involved in an illegal land grab...
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Comment number 3.
At 1st Jun 2011, ecolizzy wrote:Mans inhumanity to man continues unabated...
/programmes/b006t14n
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At 1st Jun 2011, stevie wrote:we just can't trust anybody.....those 'civilians' and special branch on the ground in Tripoli or somewhere in Libya are there in direct contravention of the UN mandate which sanctioned air attacks to protect the civilian population not 'men on the ground' leading to mission creep and all the other nightmare scenarios which ended up with adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan...
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Comment number 5.
At 1st Jun 2011, barriesingleton wrote:GRATUITOUS VIOLENCE FROM UNTRAINED STAFF IS ONE THING . . . (#3 LINK 1)
But I have notes from my brother's 8 months of Hell - THE FIRST THREE IN NHS HOSPITALS. An angle that Panorama might well investigate, is CONTEMPT FOR FAMILY MEMBERS, at their wits end, trying to ensure a loved one is treated HUMANELY AND WITH RESPECT. I could name here, a senior nurse, and a ward a manager, who majored in contempt; and a social worker who was truly barking. (The aforementioned nurse, went on to bully a confused gent in the next bed, such that his wife was moved to comment to me.) If only I had been carrying a hidden video camera!
The problem is not care of the 鈥榗hallenged鈥, or of the elderly 鈥 IT IS ROGUE-STATE BRITAIN; A NATION DRIVEN MAD BY MAD GOVERNANCE. Empathy died along with mothering.
JUST ONE SMALL PART OF THE AGE OF PERVERSITY (but relax, bombing Johnnie Foreigner will fix it)
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Comment number 6.
At 1st Jun 2011, Sasha Clarkson wrote:This is the other big story today:
/news/world-asia-pacific-13611797
Japan underestimated the tsunami risk to its nuclear reactors, but the response was "exemplary" - according to IAEA inspectors.
I find this use of the word "exemplary" quite extraordinary under the circumstances.
" ... when SPIEGEL asked a TEPCO spokesman who was running the crisis team, he replied: "Prime Minister (Naoto) Kan." .......When a member of the Japanese parliament asked the government the same question, it replied: "Primarily TEPCO." ..."
Official Information has certainly not been reliable:
"...... "They were told that the their area was safe, and so the guys from Tokyo HackerSpace took a Geiger counter and drove up there,"
".....they're in this area that they were told was okay, but the numbers were off the charts 鈥 they were high. And then 10 days later, that area was evacuated as well." ......"
Tragic stories are continuing to emerge, but so are tales of bravery and human decency:
But if you look at the 大象传媒 News front page, it seems that the FIFA saga is much more important.
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Comment number 7.
At 1st Jun 2011, barriesingleton wrote:DESTINY DAVE KNOWS RIGHT FROM WRONG - EVILDOERS MUST BE PUNISHED (#4)
Westminster takes wannabe MPs, no qualifications needed, and distils the most needy of adulation, glory, triumph, aggrandisement, status, legacy, and the like, to be Prime Ministers. By their 'success' in succession, they are guaranteed to fail us.
While Westminster endures
WE SHALL ALWAYS GET OURSELVES ANOTHER ONE.
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Comment number 8.
At 1st Jun 2011, barriesingleton wrote:'EXEMPLARY' - A SUPERB WEASEL WORD (#6)
I suggest it ranks with 'STANDARD' and probably a whole lot more such words.
If Merkel was not being opportunistic, one could say she had noted the Japanese EXAMPLE - of bad practice - and determined not to follow!
Have lessons been learned?
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Comment number 9.
At 1st Jun 2011, Mindys_Housemate wrote:/news/world-africa-13619347
raise your hand anyone who believes camoron gives two [bleep]s about Libyan civilians?
so WHY are British lives - and VAST amounts of money - being spent in Libya again? Little Lord Fonleroy wants a war, his mediocre vision cannot extend to a positive future, even Chinese dictators make him a laughing stock in comparison. The Labour minister put it bluntly last night - this Govt will leave the UK without ANY lights on.
luckily for Brighton residents, the Green council is already investing in local power. Shame about the rest of the country, but hey - who voted there??
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Comment number 10.
At 1st Jun 2011, jauntycyclist wrote:...According to a survey of 大象传媒 viewers, conducted by the Corporation itself, the 大象传媒 is regarded as anti-Christian. The survey found that Christians are portrayed with 'derogatory stereotypes' and presented as 'weak' and 'bigoted'.
given what we read in private eye and that the religion department is run by agnostics and thus disqualified from judging what is good or bad it is not surprising that philosophy and religion on the bbc is akin to 'weak tea and cheap sugary cake'.
a department not fit for purpose?
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Comment number 11.
At 1st Jun 2011, barriesingleton wrote:CHANNEL 4 - AS EVER - LIGHTS THE WAY (#10)
Homer Simpson is a regular church-goer and Ned Flanders knows his Bible backwards.
Weren't The Simpsons on the 大象传媒 once? Doh!
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Comment number 13.
At 1st Jun 2011, indignantindegene wrote:'3/5
Who Cares?
I watched the documentary last night with my wife who is a care assistant. She was shocked by the abuse, but recalled how she had worked in 2 care homes for mentally retarded residents where she was constantly on the receiving end of extreme verbal abuse (example deleted) and even physical abuse when trying to carry out her caring duties. Although not in any way condoning the abuse of such residents, I am lost for a solution.
Sacking and closing down where evidence of abuse is proven will not solve the problem, which (inho) has its origins in the break-up of family responsibility and assumption of its 鈥榓 problem for the state, social services, benefits鈥 syndrome. Coming from a 鈥榙eveloping鈥 country with no such services and having only a village education (and thus no interests or intellect beyond her national characteristic of caring for people) my wife is conditioned to 鈥榤otherhood鈥. But can one really expect today鈥檚 educated and enlightened UK citizens (where both sexes are expected to pursue higher education and high office) to spend years qualifying in the nursing/caring profession only to spend their working life changing pads and having no intelligent social discourse in such places of employment? With the exception of the truly altruistic (eg Mother Teresa) only those less able or less motivated are likely to fill such jobs, for which the demand is increasing.
One alternative is to accept that our society is not 鈥榗arer-conditioned鈥 and reverse the immigration policy that has now stopped the issue of visas for those from less 鈥榙eveloped鈥 countries with NVQ in Health & Social Care(or studying for such) and put less priority on the import of those in the legal profession. A visit to any office dealing with Immigration matters and appeals will show that 鈥楬ome Office鈥 is now an almost 100% inappropriate title.
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Comment number 14.
At 1st Jun 2011, Sasha Clarkson wrote:@10 Jaunty - I certainly do NOT want the 大象传媒 to start promoting religion. Who should be in charge of religious broadcasting - Opus Dei?
I did a theology subsid at KCL, and lived in the theological hostel for a year when my flat sharing arrangements broke down. I could write a book, but few would believe it. In the '70s, a significant number of would-be priests/ministers were seriously disturbed ex-public schoolboys. Others were predatory management types. Some were fruitcake evangelical biblical literalists, and there were some, but too few, decent people who weren't too bothered about the small print and just wanted to make the world a better place.
One of the best people at King's was Gordon Dunstan, who held a chair named after F D Maurice - sacked in the 19th century for refusing to teach eternal damnation!
The C of E has always been an organised hypocrisy, with conflicting ideologies vying for both control and the patronage which comes with being the state church. Your friend Brenda has the interesting task of being the head of both the (non-Roman) Catholic and Episcopalian C of E AND its antithesis: the heir of Knox's Kirk.
Jesus is reported to have said "By their fruits shall ye know them" (Matthew 7. 16) Let us consider the legacy of contemporary prominent self-professed Christians: Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, George W Bush, Sarah Palin (as a representative of the pro-life Guns for Jesus lobby), etc etc.... . Is it any wonder that stereotypes are negative/derogatory?
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Comment number 15.
At 1st Jun 2011, museV wrote:Alan Greenspan, Bank of England, Ben Bernanke, Black Swan, BLS Bureau of Labor Statistics, Clusterstock, Fannie Mae, Federal Reserve, Goldman Sachs, Great Depression, Happy Talk, Iraq, James Galbraith, Joint Economic Committee, Joseph Stiglitz, Michigan, NourielNouriel Roubini, Recession, recovery, Unemployment, United Kingdom, Wall Street Journal.
鈥淲e Are on the Verge of a Great, Great Depression鈥
9D
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Comment number 16.
At 1st Jun 2011, Sasha Clarkson wrote:@13 I have a couple of good friends who work as carers for the Elderly Mentally Infirm. They are dedicated and full of compassion and humour. They don't worry too much about the inevitable bruises. For this important task, one is paid the minimum wage, and another gets 10p extra per hour for being a "senior carer". They earn about 60% of the starting salary of a bankclerk, because, in our society, handling petty cash is deemed so more important than looking after human beings.
There is another factor here. Non EU immigrants are widely employed to help force wages down. This is nothing to do with Dr Cable's alleged "skills shortage". I don't blame the immigrants, who are usually decent hard working people; but the system, and the lies, make me very angry.
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Comment number 17.
At 1st Jun 2011, Mistress76uk wrote:Excellent debate by Jeremy & Coughlin et al, with Coughlin being the only one who spoke sense about the Libyan crisis and that it was NOT meant for a regime change (unlike Owen). Also loved David's interview with Geoffrey Robertson QC on the Human Rights Act - brilliant stuff! How come you hadn't mentioned this earlier??????
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Comment number 18.
At 1st Jun 2011, barriesingleton wrote:PAXMAN'S SIMPLISTIC GOOD-COP-BAD-COP 'INTERVIEWING' IS NOT WORTH THE MONEY
And pulling faces during a discussion about the fundamental meaning of 'civilised' is what a child would do (indeed - what a child DID).
There is a nascent flame of awareness (probably due to be blown out by the Great Fart of Globalism) found in a very few idividuals - of whom Arundhati Roy is manifestly one. Sadly, Paxman does not 'get it'.
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Comment number 19.
At 2nd Jun 2011, ecolizzy wrote:No wonder they haven't signed off the accounts for the last ten years!
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Comment number 20.
At 2nd Jun 2011, barriesingleton wrote:"VOTE FOR THE ROSETTE COS THE TWIT UNDERNEATH AIN'T LIST'NIN'."
Nick Brown (who?) declared, this morning, that those who stand for election on a party ticket, owe their allegiance to the party. So why does the 'rosette-stand' cipher-ninny, campaign IN HIS OWN NAME during the few weeks of electioneering?
Next time a gaudy rosette approaches you in the high-street, supported by a false grin and a bogus handshake - backed by balloons and placards - ask him how many votes HE attracts, compared to the rosette? And why is HIS name on the voting paper, rather than THE NAME OF THE ROSETTE?
Nuff sed
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Comment number 21.
At 2nd Jun 2011, barriesingleton wrote:THEM AND US (#19)
Just underlines the underlining Liz. EU Governance is Westminster writ large.
We can only hope that some sort of awakening of the masses will come about (I used to call for a 'hero' figure) but perhaps enlightenment will arrive via the internet - certainly not the 大象传媒!
We must hope that the coming unmasking of 9/11, as an act of unspeakable inhumanity, perpetrated to subdue and manipulate the world's masses, IMPACTS WITH EQUIVALENT TRAUMA to the original event. Used as fulcrum, for psychological 'purchase' on the mass-mind, it might just be turned to advantage.
Here's hoping.
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Comment number 22.
At 2nd Jun 2011, barriesingleton wrote:ELECTIONS CAN BE BOUGHT AS WELL AS STOLEN - DO THE 'MATH'
Obama intends to spend a billion dollars buying his second term, allegedly:
In Johnnie Foreigner land, when an election is 'stolen' we make outcry. In Civilisation Land (aka Britain) Elections are subverted with cash-bought deceit - but it鈥檚 OK. So I suppose, for Obama - King of the World - to pay a king's ransom - STEALING BY BUYING? - to secure another round of vacuous oratory and omnipotent oppression, is no more than we should expect.
YES HE CAN!
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Comment number 23.
At 2nd Jun 2011, jauntycyclist wrote:pretty clear the indian woman wasn't going to make any headway against the materialist nihilists of the bbc . the uk approved model is that of role gaming imperialism.
government cronies
another useless regulator. its a consistent pattern.
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Comment number 24.
At 2nd Jun 2011, stevie wrote:enjoyed the interview with Ms Roy, thought Jeremy was at his respectful best and he is the best around....
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Comment number 25.
At 2nd Jun 2011, mademoiselle_h wrote:To me, the choice is pretty simple. India can either industrialize its rural areas: implement a modern transport network, attract capital investment, create jobs and lift people out of poverty, but damage its natural reserve in the process; or they can continue to let people go hungry and barely scrap a living day to day, in order to sustain our beautiful planet. I would choose the former. I don鈥檛 think it is materialistic, more like survival instinct perhaps. Another thing I would mention is India has a billion people sitting on a tiny land (1/3 of US) 鈥 it doesn鈥檛 take a genius to figure out there is not enough to go around for people to live like Meryl Streep in 鈥淥ut of Africa鈥 .
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