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It would appear that the current youth unemployment figures will never improve until our kids are allowed to leave school at 14 to take up apprenticeships in industry / small businesses. Of course they would have to be allowed day release to go to college perhaps twice a week in the first 2 years, but real work experience could teach them true health and safety. Even if all they did for the first two years was stuff like brew up and go to the shop for people at meal times, and just act and general go-for, they would be a really useful contribution to the workforce by the time they reached the current school leaving age.

The position is - a vibrant economy needs slack at the margins - as including variable job numbers in some sectors e.g. restaurant and shop assistant jobs etc.

Most of this slack as getting up on the ladder jobs for many (eg while some studying part time at college University) have been & are being taken by excessive numbers of migrants and student migrants - particularly in times of eg current depression & stagnation.

Answer is - things will continue to get worse until numbers of migrants is cut to a trickle. Some UK/foreign companies willl leave UK as a result - 'good riddance', I say - go to eg China and see how you like it there?

Isn't this rather obvious to most people of reasonable intelligence - Why do the media & govt sit there scratching their complex bigot heads; pretending its an insurmountable problem?

Solving this crisis is a lot easier than e.g.

bombing Serbia
bombing Iraq
bombing Libya
war in Afghanistan

The problems is easily solved & reversed and million + young British people made happy & given a future.

Is that too much to ask?

Perhaps making a million young British people happy does not register with some - IMO, they must be nasty & inhuman

Step forward the nasty & inhuman - declare yourselves & be counted (by your comments for starters)

Creating employment is part of the UN Charter - but for all UK & EU HRA - we can't give British people priority of employment in their own country - because our gutless useless politicians say not.

I can't help speculating that tonight's main topic is a pretty neat excuse not to cover what it would appear to be a really good all encompassing HoC debate on Road Fuel Duty and its negative effect on our sustainable economy in general.

'... dedicating the majority of the programme to..

The rest being, as always, one presumes, in the cause of news balance?

It is a worthy topic, and needs discussing, but I do wonder which unelected or curiously vaguely backgrounded 'expert' guests will be on hand to tell folk what to think this time.

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Newsnight needs to interview this financial commentator Eddie Hobbs from Eire.

After watching it I am off to the bank to withdraw my savings, buy a huge stash of tinned goods and dig a trench in my back garden.



To quote Blackadder, this is a BIG crisis.

Aforementioned Fuel duty debate is interesting since it would appear that the Labour benches are idiotically trying to make it into a debate to cut VAT for an instant hit for the general consumer. Of course its been more than amply pointed out that most businesses reclaim any VAT so that it makes little impact on reducing escalating business costs. I suspect that most people will have already forgotten that when Panda temporarily cut VAT to 15% he at the same time increased fuel duty to theoretically compensate. Perhaps the Labour party in general in today's debate are amply indicating that they are still an eco-fascist leaning organisation, members of all the other parties have really rolled out the big guns against fuel duty and quite a few interesting aspects and subtle information has come out !

Why didn't you bother reporting on high unemployment during the last Labour government?

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"Plus, Richard Watson brings us the latest on the border security row, which today has seen the ex-head of the UK border force Brodie Clark testifying before a committee of MPs."

Some essential background reading about understanding the behaviour of active Civil Servants; who they're answerable to (their Minister); the rules of disclosure to Select Committees; and politician's (who should know better) theatrics.



There are clearly lots of people in places which they shouldn't be.
Who's doing anything about it? Would a dwelling to dwelling search be that difficult? Why has it not done? Germany managed to do it quite effectively in the 1930s. The truth is that where there's no will, there's way and where there's been a will for the opposite there have been many ways, including putting people in the right places, to ensure what's desired happens.

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That's non-Governance = market-forces. That was new Labour and their successors too. The New Left were and right-wing Libertarians - one and the same.

#10 Mr Dog

Perhaps we need Albert Speer !

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12.At 18:34 15th Nov 2011, Globaliist wrote:
Nautonier...once Blair and Mandelson expanded the EU for Wall Street and opened our borders to the entire world politics in Britain was even more of a busted flush than before..... because we have no way of planning or controlling our economy.

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But that is another reason why they were so naive - President Mitterand hated the sight of the both/either of them - as another De Gaulle type - but still they persisted in pushing European project on the UK - I'm not sure about the Wall st issue - Blair & Mandelson both had a globalist agenda because they were incompetent & did not have the intelligence & guts to protect the real British economy & British people & rebuild British industry - hence eg Cadbury's & Rover debacles.

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16.At 18:50 15th Nov 2011, Globaliist wrote:
13 They didn`t lack guts Nautonier. when they started off New Labour neither of them had the price of a cup of tea.
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Well that bit may be true - but when I say they lacked intelligence & guts in dealing with the UK economy that is a different matter - they were both out of their depth -Blair left the running of the UK economy to Brown & Mandelson was/is also just a master of spin with zero real business acumen/ability in running a macro economy or in dealing with complex UK business issues like Rover or Cadburys - they both rolled over in the face of global capitalists & would not protect British jobs.

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Globaliist wrote: "British politicians have not run Britain since 1918....it`s organised crime and a major fraud and they don`t "work for you".....and if we had a Fourth Estate or a democracy this would be even more obvious!"

The nature of Libertarian (Liberal) Democracy is that markets run countries not politicians. Politicians make laws which ensure the markets rule (with a nudge here and there which is vestigial from when we had a truly mixed economies). Most people still don't see this. There is no secret to this as it's what free-market economies are all about.

There is no conspiracy. It's just a political system. The problem is it's gone too far and it has adverse demographic consequences genetically. It is self-destructive. Most politicians have not see this.

It is a research finding. It was hinted at by Fisher in 1930 but never made entirely explicit, possibly because back then it would have been treasonous?

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Israel to help build E. African coalition against fundamentalism and Iran

Can we not pass remarks on Peter Mandelson. My last post got killed, I only mentioned he was an attendee at the last Bilderberg meeting.

I assume we have to wait until he's slithered back into his crypt. Is it safe now then to say something?

"....the latest on the border security row, which today has seen the ex-head of the UK border force Brodie Clark testifying before a committee of MPs."

The Home Secretary understandably wanted to send a clear *political* message to the British public that her Government was doing something substantive about the most dysfunctional part of the Home Office (UKBA) as run by New Labour.

Why it has been dysfunctional in recent times doesn't much matter one suspects. It's been cut, so it was bound to be under pressure. The Con-Dems are now in control. The Civil Service (Public Sector) is dispensable.

La-La La.

I just watched the Wall St protest report from Mark Mardell on Auntie Beebs 10 oclock news. His treatment of the story is very John Cravens Newsround. But then, thats the ´óÏó´«Ã½ for you.

I've just been told to take my mediciation when I'm sitting down and watching the news.

"Nurse! Newsnight is on in a minute...do I take a double dosage of these blue pills or what?"

What idiot H&S rule says you have to wear a face mask to do plastering ?

Globaliist wrote: "Markets can`t run countries BD"

That's correct - Libertarianism (Left-Communism) is anarchistic.

What we're seeing in the UK and across the EU is deconstruction of the nation states into NUTS (N = ~6 million) and "market forces", with politicians serving as theatrical performers or, paradoxically, Libertarian legislators.



Mistress76uk wrote: "Israel to help build E. African coalition against fundamentalism and Iran"

They're very busy aren't they?

Israel only has a population of about 6 million in all, and about a quarter of those are Arabs. Do you appreciate that there are over 70 million Iranians and they have the Russians and Chinese behind them? Do you think they may have delusions of grandeur, or is it just that they're not too good at the maths?

Somewhat embarrassed by the attitudes on display in the studio tonight.

I have a masters degree from Cambridge and am trained as a professional airline pilot, but was happy to work as a shelf stacker in Sainsburys because that was the only job I could find for a good while in 2009.

The sense of entitlement to work in a job that you want is outrageous.

Too many youngsters were pushed into further education; too many graduates and not enough work for them. The less academic could always find bottom end jobs such as cleaning or flippin burgers with the hope of moving up into supervisory/management rolls or they at least had a wage and something to get for in the morning..but not anymore on account 4-5 million were let into the country when Labour decided to culturally change these Islands...and with cheap labour. So a graduate can't even find a job cleaning toilets, let alone a 17 year old who did a micky mouse course. If your young and want a job in this country.. I suggest you learn polish.

Top of the evening was Jeremy's interview with the Danish PM :o)

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EMPLOYMENT GROWTH WITH STASIS!

Bring up to date the hole digging and filling.

Factory one makes an item requiring a range of skills and technologies.
Factory two dismantles the item mimicking 'end of life' material recovery.
Factory three renders crude output from factory two, into feedstock for F one.

All are tasked with trying to reach 100% efficiency re materials, lowest energy etc. Vast scope for a wide range of skills and lots of tea ladies (dispensers banned - I never installed one, in 35 years.)

Didn't hear anything like that from Miliband D. Only silly glottal stops, caught from Tacky Tony.

WE HAD BE''ER WATCH WE DO' GE' OURSELVES ANOTHER ONE

My blood is still boiling from watching a smug smirking Milliband - he is disgusting with his political opportunism & useless twaddle.

That aside - it is no use creating more jobs for anyone in UK - if creating those jobs means more immigrants entering the UK to take those jobs - and leaving that aside -What can de done?

The programme sounded at times like a council of despair - it isn't and shouldn't be.

The UK school curriculum is presenting very few young people with the right skillls and attitudes for employment - I think that is very clear - and school curricucum needs to be radically overhauled - massive discussion topic on its own.

Otherwise, leaving aside the problem of mass immigration as a main underlying problem and also young people not skilled and mentally ready for employment

The lack of job growth is fundamentally a prdoduct of zero effective co-ordination of govt policy with effective supply and demand at local economic levels.

This means different policies for e.g rural Lincolnshire viz a viz Birmingham urban area.

Key to employment generation is by a lot of hard work by manipulating eg tax policy to local areas - which is complex and difficult, means carrot & stick with tax policies including full strategic economic review at national regional and local levels and identifying assets and resources and matching training and tax policies at the local level - particularly corporation tax, VAT, capital allowances, business rates etc + NI contributions and employment grants and awards.

Supermarkets should be sourcing ?% of their products within a 20 mile radius of their store as matching local circumstances.

Schools should have greenhouses and workshops for tarining children to grow and make things.

VAT policy needs to be more aggressive with more zero rating of goods manufactured and sold in UK.

Reintroduce national service - ie as civil order and border control etc and not warfare orientated.

Need about 1000 mini policies like this - put it all together and get it right and unemployment can be eliminated in the UK.

No need for despair - there is no need for anyone who wants to work to be unemployed - just need to do the right things and tear up the EU straightjacket on HRA, red tape and just do what needs doing - building up from a local level - working down from a national & regional level - and meeting somewhere in between by creating jobs.

Unless there is a vibrant top down and bottom up effort with radical carrot and stick - nothing is going to change or happen by itself.

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19.At 20:05 15th Nov 2011, Globaliist wrote:
17 and one act of mistaken loyalty to us Brits and Murdoch and the ´óÏó´«Ã½ would have hounded them from office.
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That's what 'the spin' is for?

THE SAME IDIOT WHO THINKS CEMENT-ASBESTOS ROOFING IS HARMFUL (#28)

You and I know. Bro, that cement asbestos DEGRADES to its constituent parts and from ROOF HEIGHT must blow down-wind in a swathe of deposition. Yet no one has found asbestosis 'hotspots' in such areas. Nevertheless, a song and dance is made over disposal.

I wonder if it affects Global Warming?

In passing: we kids used to put it on our spud-cooking fires. IT EXPLODES TO GREAT EFFECT! Could have had an eye out . . .

THIS IS THE AGE OF PERVERSITY

Why does the ´óÏó´«Ã½ let Paxman be rude to just about everyone and anyone? He was rude to several of the young people who'd agreed to help him out on his show and he wasn't all that polite to the Danish PM either.

And why do they let him air his clearly Eurosceptic views on primetime TV? I'm not interested in hearing Paxman bluff and bluster that the Euro was a mistake, run down the European Union and be disparaging to European politicians and civil servants.

He is making a laughing stock out of the ´óÏó´«Ã½'s idea for being impartial.

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'24. At 21:49 15th Nov 2011, kevseywevsey
Can we not pass remarks on Peter Mandelson.'

There are very clear rules on what may be passed. Or not. And very vague ones on top for when these don't suit.

Mentioning ever-prevalent unelected 'we know what's good for you' guest 'experts' being a sensitive area.

Saw an interesting piece on SKY about young folk studying engineering in Berlin.

They seemed... optimistic.

Meanwhile the College of Journalism is doubtless cranking out reams more here who can bash out a hell of a pessimistic doco on how change is bad, never should happen and must be stopped.

And if the last episode is inconvenient, there's always that spiffy edit suite.

Tried to discuss that on 'The Editors'. They weren't keen.

I thought trust was earned, but it appears that, given certain unique funding models, it can be created simply be repeating it exists often enough.

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HOW CAN THEY CRITICISE THEMSELVES? (#42)

The AGE OF PERVERSITY 'presides over' a steady decline in MATURITY. But self criticism ONLY COMES WITH MATURITY. In this terrible Age, the least mature, reach the highest offices. QED

For a telling example, look no farther than Richard Benyon MP. I have presented him with irrefutable evidence that he used DECEPTION (distribution of a false instrument) to aid his drive to be re-elected in 2010. His response was to declare me "illogical" and go into a constructive sulk. He is supported, and defended, by all the WILES OF WESTMINSTER.

You decide - (follow the link). Which of us is logical?



ALL THAT IS REQUIRED FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS THAT PATHETIC 'MEDIA' DO NOTHING.

GLOBALIIST (several above)

You hit many nails squarely on the head. What a terrible waste of key-strokes.

Miliband D, did a masterclass in demonstrated the disconnection of his ilk. (Paxman was simply Paxman. He will appear, soon, in the OED as a noun of contempt.)

POLITICS IS NOT STEWARDSHIP. (It is all so hopelessly paxman.)

In the old days, the deserving poor used to supplement their meagre income by taking in the washing of the better off. The throw-away culture and modern labour-saving devices have made this unfashionable. However, there is, apparently, a huge problem that child-care for the rich is becoming unaffordable. So perhaps the poor could "take in" the children of the rich?



Towards the end the journo confesses her shameful secret: "I secretly like having mine at home."

The assassination of this article in the Indie is mildly amusing but a bit heavy handed, and doesn't nearly do justice to the original.

So yet more proof that immigration is good for us, NOT!



Politicians must be really thick if they believe 5 - 6 million more people into this country in the last ten years has not affected our jobs market. I wonder why we don't riot?!

interesting talk on defence strategy

The Cold Rules for National Security: History and the Defence of the Realm

48....I wonder why we don't riot?!.....

its coming. there are swastika graffiti everywhere around here now and open hatred for migrants that seems almost socialised as normal.

'44. At 09:28 16th Nov 2011, Globaliist - Paxo trying to patronise the underclass'

Many fair points.

Speaking of establishment arras (as I think you mean it), and folk within being handed theirs, I do recall an exchange between Mr. Paxman and a young spokesperson for a group the ´óÏó´«Ã½ was very keen to portray as extreme, with many examples (this oddly is not a consistent policy), and though much of what this fellow stood for I could not support, he actually held his own pretty well.

Maybe that's why 'we' don't see such things too often. It doesn't always work out as 'they' prefer.

Having fun currently with the mods over at 'The Editors', where they seem very keen to now suggest the topic of weather has nothing at all to do with climate.

Whether this is to do with trust issues, who can say?

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PERVERSE POLITICS - CORRELATION AND CONVENIENT CAUSATION (#48)

Lest we forget: Politics is the Art of Self-Deception, wrapped in the Craft of Deceiving Others - FOR THEIR 'OWN GOOD'.

Political assertion: "We import labour to do the jobs indigenes won't or can't do."

Translation to truth: "Governance has SERIALLY failed to focus on building a viable, self sufficient, contented, community, in which ALL work is respected and respectfully remunerated. However, the great thing about imported Johnnie Foreigner, is he's cheap and prepared to be exploited - for as long as it takes an MP to do a Parliamentary stint, and exit 'flush'."

DISMANTLE WESTMINSTER - INSTALL INTEGRITY

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DIFFERENCISM WILL OUT - IT IS VISCERAL TO THE MALE APE (#50)

Remember the school teacher who told the class that one eye colour was superior? She did not CREATE the bullying that followed, SHE RELEASED IT.

Lack of constructive culture, plus declining maturity is 'LEADING US DOWN TO ROME'.
The Stamford Prison Experiment is COMING TO A STREET NEAR YOU.

How many MPs have a clue what I am alluding to?

Nuff sed

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57 haha i wonder who complained? the usual suspects? the israeli internet warfare used to infest the NN boards

IMHO, there was a palpable lack of empathy from Paxman, Miliband and Grayling for the plight of these young people last night.

If there are not enough jobs to go around for these youngsters then maybe a different approach is required.

In a very general sense, there is always work to be done 'we all serve in some way'.

Inasmuch as Government can do anything (business people usually dread hearing somebody say 'I'm from the Government and I'm here to help') they could at least encourage young people in thinking about starting their own businesses and considering precisely what is involved.

A huge number of small businesses fail within the first few years so there is plenty of scope, and for young people, time, for preparing a decent business plan and learning about what is demanded, in the generic sense of business.

Far, far too many people have an 'employee' mindset and that very unhealthy.

We should try to encourage legions of these young people to form battalions of small businesses - to serve the private, charity and public sectors.

if 90% of all new jobs are going to migrants then why is that? According to private eye even the baliffs who evicted dale farm protesters were mainly east european.

YOU CAN'T START A BUSINESS WITHOUT POTENTIAL CONSUMERS WITH MONEY (#60)

My post #35 is not a joke. My 'CIRCLE OF STASIS' is a benign circle (not vicious) raising competence and experience with no impact on the fragile economy.

A strange parallel is the boy whose liver was failing (that's the economy) so they injected him with quasi-porous ENCLAVES (my Circles of Stasis) of liver cells. The liver cells detoxified the boy's body and took the strain off his 'world' (body). Young people working in the Circles would still live in the 'real world' but a world with lower unemployment and more maturity (that word again). This would help recovery as, indeed, the boy recovered.

#50 Oh I don't berate the immigrant Jaunty, it's more the open door policy and encouragement of that by the wonderful (not) labour party, and then the continuance of that policy by the cons.

Not to mention the employers who employ this workforce and then exploit them.

How on earth has any young person got a chance of work, not even part time as happened in the old days whilst studying, where they learnt the rules and got to work on time.

It's the young that are truly scuppered, not everyone is a brain box, and now they can't even get the ordinary jobs, 'cos some immigrant got there first, who probably has a degree, so what hope for the not so able?!

listening to these graduates i have little hope of the future. 'i was offered hairdressing but i want to write songs' said one. migrants don't think like that.

The Danish PM on last night's programme usefully pointed out that the financial crisis in the eurozone was NOT caused by the euro per se, but rather was due to the ill-disciplined PIIGS.

And that is the nub of it, the Government of those countries acted like the proverbial children in the sweet shop once they had joined the eurozone.

There were supra-european fiscal rules but the PIIGS chose to ignore them completely, effectively demonstrating that they could not be trusted to run their affairs in a prudent manner, and now they must suffer an aggressive regulatory regime.

The Danish PM's balanced and measured comments on Europe were in sharp relief to some of the political comment in what we might call 'Little Britain'.

barriesingleton @ 62

YOU CAN'T ...

You can.

ER - DO I STAND CORRECTED? (#66)

What do you write on a CV JC?

Even if you don't 'show your working, you could give an example. Having run a business for 35 years, your assertion seems counter-intuitive to me.

Always willing to be PROVED wrong.

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"BY THE THINGS THEY DON'T INVESTIGATE SHALL YE KNOW THEM" (#68)

Small wonder 'they' educate for unawareness and inability to think Globaliist.

Nuff sed

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nautonier wrote: "The UK school curriculum is presenting very few young people with the right skillls and attitudes for employment - I think that is very clear - and school curricucum needs to be radically overhauled - massive discussion topic on its own."

If only it were so simple.

There's a hidden, tacit classic false assumption in your post which is the "massive discussion topic on its own." It is not the schools and their curricula (environment), but parental genes and those of their parents which produce young people with skills. The schools just select out those emitted behaviours and direct (school) them. Our problems thus go further back than you and many others appreciate. Most are thinking far too short-term alas.

Don't think about responding with what you believe, as that is precisely what I am challenging even though what you believe is common-sense to many. What is popular is invariably not true. See history of science.

Brown-dog

ecolizzy wrote: "Politicians must be really thick if they believe 5 - 6 million more people into this country in the last ten years has not affected our jobs market. I wonder why we don't riot?!"

It's because the Public sector workers in the UKBA and the Police effectively are in the Home Office (Ministry of Interior) and these "agencies" have to enforce LIBERTARIAN law. Anyone who tries to thwart this WILL BE photographed and FINGERPRINTED and in some cases put in prison even though these are already massively overcrowded and cost the taxpayer tens of thousands of pounds a year to keep each offender there.

if you go shopping, buy trainers and get yourself massively into debt as part of your business on the other hand, you are likely to be treated as a celebrity and get a gong for making an important contribution to the economy!

barriesingleton wrote "Remember the school teacher who told the class that one eye colour was superior? She did not CREATE the bullying that followed, SHE RELEASED IT."

Brown eye colour is dominant. Ironically, blue eyes and blond hair are mutations



Interestingly associated with Northern European latitude, as is a particular combination of cognitive engineering ability/maleness, and an aversion to woolly feminised-brained talk.

Sadly, they appear to be a dying breed, looking at their TFR.

PS They tend to like cheese, too.

JohnConstable wrote admiringly of Mrs Kinnock (PM of Denmark) "And that is the nub of it, the Government of those countries acted like the proverbial children in the sweet shop once they had joined the eurozone.

There were supra-european fiscal rules but the PIIGS chose to ignore them completely, effectively demonstrating that they could not be trusted to run their affairs in a prudent manner, and now they must suffer an aggressive regulatory regim"

What you may have failed to note is that Eurostat knew of the odd figures and yet let it happen anyway. That was because they were working to a long term Washington/NYC agenda to create a Libertarian European Union by the back door of necessary.

It is a common ploy for companies to over extend credit to smaller agents in order to buy them out when they can't afford to operate on their own anymore (or interest rates are raised). That's been what's happening. You are seeing the PIIGS (onetime Catholic/Orthodox Christian which proscribed usury like the Muslims do via riba) coming unstuck once securalised (liberated) by the money-lenders - all of these nations had military "dictatorships" at one stage not too long ago (Ireland being a possible exception, but think IRA). It is true that these countries behaved like impulsive children, but that was because of their differential fertility brought about by education, education, education.

A lot of people will need to think about just how Satanic this has been, and how long it has been going on for in the interest of breeding impulsive consumers. They will need to ask whether "children" need protection from predators, rather than abuse and exploitation under caveat emptor.

Some this will of course be bad for some people's "business models".

72.At 17:12 16th Nov 2011, brown-dog wrote:

There's a hidden, tacit classic false assumption in your post which is the "massive discussion topic on its own." It is not the schools and their curricula (environment), but parental genes and those of their parents which produce young people with skills. The schools just select out those emitted behaviours and direct (school) them. Our problems thus go further back than you and many others appreciate. Most are thinking far too short-term alas.

Don't think about responding with what you believe, as that is precisely what I am challenging even though what you believe is common-sense to many. What is popular is invariably not true. See history of science.

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I am going to respond with what I believe - as my comments are as valid as yours.

I think your comments are outrageous - but I'm not going to waste my time getting irate responding, in depth.

However, I will say that IMO, our children have a problem with an educational system that is failing most of them & is not equipping them to do what most now need to do - go out into UK/Europe using language & other skills and compete for jobs there because the UK is otherwise, so screwed up.

I have a teenage daughter as written off by the educational system at age 11 selection system as now looking at studying at Universities in Europe - I certainly don't need a patronising lecture from you as to what I should be saying or even think.

nautonier wrote: "I am going to respond with what I believe - as my comments are as valid as yours."

There is an assumption there. What makes you believe that to be true?
Your views appear to be personal opinions whilst what I post are statements informed by the evidence, much of which appears to be unfamiliar to you. You will discover this if you researched the issue rather than trusting your intuitions (aka prejudices)..

"I think your comments are outrageous - but I'm not going to waste my time getting irate responding, in depth."

Only because you are having some of your core (false) beliefs challenged. As I said, many people hold as true, falsehoods, and these falsehoods are basic to how the Libertarian system itself is sustained.
Unless people see this, nothing can change. The exploitation survives precisely because people believe falsehoods to be true, and are outraged when they are challenged.

"However, I will say that IMO, our children have a problem with an educational system that is failing most of them & is not equipping them to do what most now need to do"

It can not equip some people as they lack the genetic ability to benefit. If the population is cognitively deteriorating, the schools will not be able to help them. This is reflected in the OECD/PISA and SATs data and has been for years, decades in fact. A warning was made in the 1940s by the first two knighted psychologists in their submissions to the Royal Commission on Population on this very issue and how it was going to turn out.

"go out into UK/Europe using language & other skills and compete for jobs there because the UK is otherwise, so screwed up."

It is because relative to say China, our skills are deteriorating, genetically. This is a function of the birth-rate. I'm sure this has been explained very clearly.

"I have a teenage daughter as written off by the educational system at age 11 selection system as now looking at studying at Universities in Europe - I certainly don't need a patronising lecture from you as to what I should be saying or even think."

I suspect you do need an education on these matters as nearly half the population now goes to "university", so Further Education has clearly been massively devalued (i.e qualifications have been massively inflated), hence one finds many young people with degrees now looking for work in fast food vendors and supermarkets. Standards have gone down, not up. That is why so many get to university.