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"My God, it's full of stars!"*

Eddie Mair | 12:58 UK time, Wednesday, 11 July 2007


PA Reports: Astronomers have captured faint images of the oldest and most distant galaxies ever seen, whose light has been travelling across the universe for more than 13 billion years. When the light began its journey only 500 million years had passed since the Big Bang which created the cosmos. Pallab will have more for us at five. To keep you going - try .


* come on - which film is that from?

Comments

  1. At 01:01 PM on 11 Jul 2007, wrote:

    2001 - A Space Odyssey

  2. At 01:08 PM on 11 Jul 2007, wrote:

    Bah baah baaah BAHBAH! (Bum bum bum bum bum bum etc)

    I was reading about this the other day in - I think - the Sky At Night magazine. It's humbling to think about the scale of the Universe this suggests.

    It certainly puts petty squabbling about tiny inter-religious differences and worries about interest rates completely into perspective.

  3. At 01:08 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Oh, Eddie, how very 2001!

  4. At 01:20 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Vyle Hernia wrote:

    Looks like a load of dots to me.

    So that's the origin of the phrase, "The
    year Dot."

  5. At 01:21 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Alby Blode wrote:

    I think it's from the ´óÏó´«Ã½ film:
    "The Glass Box".

  6. At 01:26 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    "Bottom The Movie". Do I win a prize?

  7. At 01:35 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Kevin wrote:

    I thought it was 2010

  8. At 01:48 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Humph wrote:

    "Oscar Night 2006 - A Documentry." It was shouted by Jade Goody on entering the hall. She had hitherto believed that she was the only person who had been invited.

    H.

  9. At 02:11 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Eddie Mair wrote:

    I thought it was 2010 too. Isn't that how it opened?

  10. At 02:32 PM on 11 Jul 2007, wrote:

    I make it 14:33

  11. At 02:35 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Piper wrote:


    Well, "Big-Bang" might now be in very serious contention with "Big bounce" and as for the word "Creation..."

    "New discoveries have been made about another universe whose collapse appears to have given birth to the one we have today. The research introduces a new mathematical model that gives new details about the beginning of our universe, which now appears to have been a Big Bounce, according to a new theory of quantum gravity, and not a Big Bang, as described by Einstein's Theory of General Relativity".

  12. At 02:44 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Eddie and Kevin and others: We're both right. The quote appeared in the original novel, 2001, but not in the film. It was used, however, in the film 2010.

    I am, of course, relying on W*k*quote for this, though I'd remembered it from reading the book. Honest!

  13. At 02:52 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Frances O wrote:

    It sounds the sort of thing they'd have said at the end of 'Now Voyager'.

    Not the spacecraft.

    But I'm sure that's not the answer.

  14. At 03:22 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Piper wrote:


    I should also have added this link:

    /dna/h2g2/A2986365

    So, in the begining there was, well, maybe everything...

  15. At 03:48 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Charlie wrote:


    "Tea" is seemingly a complex issue at the "Beeb".

    Eddie's been "contemplating" it for about an hour...

  16. At 03:59 PM on 11 Jul 2007, wrote:

    So if this isn't the space news that's embargoed until 5pm, what is?

    A monster asteroid on course to wipe out Bruce Willis?

    A monster asteroid on course to wipe out Winsey Willis?

    Mars rovers have stopped transmitting?

    Beagle 2 has started transmitting?

    Water has been discovered on Mars? *Again*?

    Richard Branson shot into space?

    Aliens?

  17. At 06:19 PM on 11 Jul 2007, wrote:

    What Hubble REALLY said

    >> The Astronomer Halton Arp, known best for his Atlas of Peculiar Galaxies, published his most important work in "Seeing Red: Redshifts, Cosmology and Academic Science" and "Catalogue of Discordant Redshift Associations." His breakthrough was to recognize and prove that Edwin Hubble's "other" explanation for the redshift/faintness relationship was the correct one.

    Hubble wrote, "If the redshifts are a Doppler shift ... the observations as they stand lead to the anomaly of a closed universe, curiously small and dense, and, it may be added, suspiciously young. On the other hand, if redshifts are not Doppler effects, these anomalies disappear and the region observed appears as a small, homogeneous, but insignificant portion of a universe extended indefinitely both in space and time." —(Royal Astronomical Society Monthly Notices, 17, 506, 1937).

    Arp has shown empirically, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that founding assumptions of the Big Bang and Expanding Universe theories are wrong. Redshift is not an exclusive indicator of velocity, expansion, or distance. In other words, we cannot project backwards a redshift/expansion to a hypothetical "big bang." The universe is of unknown age and extent. In our current state of ignorance we cannot even frame a sensible question about the origin of the universe. We should not meekly submit to the conceit of big bang cosmology, with its belief in a miraculous creation event documented in abstract mathematical scripture. Arp demonstrates that we need to humbly look at the universe without the distortion of the redshift = distance lens.

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