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The Glass Box for Friday

Comments

1. At 05:31 PM on 28 Sep 2007, Gillian wrote:

   All open for business again! ;o)

2. At 05:55 PM on 28 Sep 2007, David McNickle wrote:

   So Eddie now wants us to send pictures of some part of our body. He said so on PM. Pervert.

3. At 06:00 PM on 28 Sep 2007, JimmyGiro wrote:

   I appreciate the interviewee's comments about the exaggeration and over use of the '1984' sobriquette for Britain's surveillance systems, as conceived and used.

   A problem I have, and others may concur, is that authorities change; and these changes may be the result of contempt.

   Consider the 'Stamford prison experiment' 1971 and the Milgram experiment 1961. These seminal works indicate how the ethos of groups and individuals in authority or under instruction can become morally corrupted.

   What is worse, bad people not being caught, or good people turning bad?

4. At 06:00 PM on 28 Sep 2007, Carl Lander wrote:

   The issue about James Purnell was misleadngly delivered. He has clearly said that he had not given permission for merging photos. Your Westminseter correspondent said that he had not intentionally mislead anyone (or words to that effect).

   Indeed he has NOT mislead anyone - the Trust has admiited that it did.

   Stop spinning stories and start reporting facts - is John Humphries the puppetter behind old Eddie?
   Carl

5. At 06:01 PM on 28 Sep 2007, Penrose wrote:

   ENVIRONMENT

   Things must be worse than we thought for Mr Bush to no longer maintain that the 'jury's out' on mans impact on global warming.

   Oh dear, head for the hills.....

6. At 06:08 PM on 28 Sep 2007, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

   I’ve said it before, but once more:

   I think your reporters should be encouraged not to use the term 'kil-OM-eter' unless they are also prepared to use 'cen-TIM-eter' and 'mill-IM-eter'. There is nothing in common between the word kilometre and the words parameter, perimeter, barometer, etc etc.

   Many at the ´óÏó´«Ã½ use the US pronunciation, where the spelling has the -meter suffix instead of -metre, and where the metric system is not particularly in use. Am I, once again, irrational to be bothered by this?

   
   Good programme tonight, though.

7. At 07:01 PM on 28 Sep 2007, R. Whiting wrote:

   Ref(4)
   I totally agree with Mr. Lander. The ´óÏó´«Ã½ seems to be getting more and more obsessed with utterly trivial stories which should be left to local media if they are worth any attention at all.

8. At 07:32 PM on 28 Sep 2007, John Lomas wrote:

   Hi
   Re- The smoking issue.
   The new H/C has changed nothing, it has always been possible to be charged with "Without Due Care and Attention" if smoking or lighting a cigarette has been a contributory factor in an incident.

   All that has happened is that it has now been spelt out.
   The same applies to the other distractions mentioned

9. At 07:46 PM on 28 Sep 2007, Frances 5O2 wrote:

   David, but Eric's already GOT your photo of body parts

   ;o)

10. At 08:28 PM on 28 Sep 2007, David Barnsdale wrote:

    When someone resorts to terrorism like Miles Cooper has done this should provoke hard questions about the political ideology he advocates. Instead you had a Mr Booth who after a symbolic his-methods-aren't-justified then enthusiastically launched into advocating just the kind of paranoia that made Miles Cooper think he had a right to do what he did. You are rewarding political violence by giving publicity in such an uncritical way.

    David Barnsdale

11. At 08:39 PM on 28 Sep 2007, Barrie wrote:

    I am totally against being filmed by CCTV cameras while simply walking down the street or going into a shop, let alone being observed while driving.
    The main problem is that once the hardware is established, there seems to be little control over the uses to which it can be put.
    If the reason behind these surveillance devices is to help stop crime.....why are our prisons overflowing?
    I don't think politicians will ever do anything to stop their spread as they are a means of control and that's what politicians like to do.....control.

12. At 01:25 AM on 29 Sep 2007, mac wrote:

    Deep breaths, people! The Tories are coming to town.

    
    David 'Izza' Cameron looking like Elvis on his way to the pie shop on his bike is on your screens this coming week.

    The man who managed to advise both Lamont leading up to the EMS crash and Home Secretary Howard leading up to Dunblane is offering to become your very own subprime minister.

    
    Offerng black people, white working class people and immigrants the chance to escape exploitation from people like.....well, him.
    He'll get his upper class cronies off your backs if you give him political power.

    Power? For what?

    He'll ensure the NHS, our hospitals etc and our tax financed schools won't grow as fast as the economy, so that he can give tax cuts to people like....well, him.
    And we can all say 'Aren't our public services old fashioned?'
    And he will say 'Wouldn't know. My sort go private'.

13. At 10:44 AM on 29 Sep 2007, wrote:

    Barrie (11) - Couldn't agree more. They call it 'function creep'. The identity cards we had during the war had three functions, to start with,. By the time they were scrapped, they had 39.

    Give people the means to control - and they will control. They can't resist.

    Sid
    

14. At 11:26 AM on 29 Sep 2007, Roger Sawyer wrote:

    Hello All,

    I was editing yesterday. Thank you for all your comments.

    Odd day in terms of a lead. We went with Bluetongue rather than Burma, because - terrible though events in Burma are - it's getting difficult to say anything new or meaningful about what is going on. We do our best to keep you updated though.

    Re the James Purnell story, I have to disagree with Carl Lander (4) and R Whiting (7). First of all, the story was not as clear cut as it might seem, with our being given different reasons by Mr Purnell's people as to why the photo merging happened and who knew what. A new and different explanation dropped after 5pm, so we reflected the change in what was being said.

    If you read the papers this morning, it is still not cut and dried who knew what and when.

    Also, it is not trivia. I think a Secretary of State who gives speeches about the need for the Media AND Politicians to ensure they do everything to ensure trust in the syetem is a legitimate news item if involved in a doctored photo. We were trying to establish how much he kne about what was being done... and the explanations changed. The ´óÏó´«Ã½ and other media have rightly been in the frame. It applies to politicians too.

    And on Miles Cooper, I have to disagree with David Barnsdale (10). First of all, the whole premise of the report was to ask what was wrong with having a surveillance society. There were people in the report saying it was a good thing and or that it wasn't as bad as people think - in the interests of balance, we had someone explaining why he was concerned about it.

    It ws not a question of rewarding violence at all. Many, many people share Miles Cooper's concerns but would be horrified at his methods. Saying we shouldn't discuss the issue is like saying we cannot discuss animal testing or vivisection if animal rights extremists carry out acts of violence. Or Nothern Ireland, the Basques, the Middle East.

    Have good weekends everyone...

    Rog