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Sequin | 12:07 UK time, Wednesday, 17 October 2007

On the programme, one of our political correspondents will be out testing how much the public recognise people like Nick Clegg, Chris Huhne, Steve Webb and the rest. They're Lib Dem leadership contenders - or at least expected to be. Could you pick them out in a crowd?

More seriously, and picking up on the themes about ageism we were discussing yesterday, Vince Cable (64) has ruled himself out of the race. He says " an older candidate is not electable because of the "irrational prejudice" shown towards Sir Menzies over his age. What is the cut-off age for a politician then?

So who is who?
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Our political correspondent Jo Coburn has been out asking people if they recognise any of the potential leadership candidates. You can hear what she discovered on today's programme.

Here she is with PM's no-expense-spared "name that Lib Dem" poster...

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Comments

  1. At 01:17 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    Ideally, the cut-off age for politicians could be set at about eighteen, or as soon after that as they show signs of being irredeemable.

  2. At 01:23 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    Ideally, the cut-off age for politicians could be set at about eighteen, or as soon after that as they show signs of being irredeemable.

  3. At 01:27 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    Ideally, the cut-off age for politicians could be set at about eighteen, or as soon after that as they show signs of being irredeemable.

  4. At 01:36 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    Oh, if we're talking about actually "cutting-off" politicians, then I say the younger the better. Preferably at the age where contraceptives will stop them all-together.

  5. At 01:40 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

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  6. At 01:45 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Jean Eckersley wrote:

    I wonder if the Lib Dems are hoping that anyone over 60 will vote for them ?

  7. At 01:47 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Joe Palooka wrote:

    They all look a bit shifty to me.

  8. At 01:48 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Jean Eckersley wrote:

    I wonder if the Lib Dems are hoping that anyone over 60 will vote for them ?

  9. At 01:54 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Joe Palooka wrote:

    They all look a bit shifty to me.

  10. At 01:54 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Jean Eckersley wrote:

    I wonder if the Lib Dems are hoping that anyone over 60 will vote for them ?

  11. At 01:54 PM on 17 Oct 2007, david pearce wrote:

    We don't recognise prominent personnel amongst the Lib Dems or smaller parties, because the media including radio 4 never fail to focus on two sparring parties. Lib Dems are only given attention when there's a leadership difficulty, never on the creation or articulation of a raft of constructive policies

  12. At 01:57 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Vyle Hernia wrote:

    I don't recognise any of them. But I don't know what Vince looks like anyway. Are they pictures of Dick Emery?

  13. At 02:00 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Tuppence wrote:

    Either nobody knows, or nobody cares? Scary thought for the lib dems.

    I recognise Steve Webb in the pink shirt, Chris Huhne in the black tie and I think Nick Clegg in the gold spotty tie.

    Do I win?

    2d

  14. At 02:06 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Jean Eckersley wrote:

    This is my second attempt - I apologize if you've already received it.

    Are the Liberal Democrats expecting anyone over 60 to vote for them ?

  15. At 02:18 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    Oh, if we're talking about actually "cutting-off" politicians, then I say the younger the better. Preferably at the age where contraceptives will stop them all-together.

    (4 502s...)

    I don't know who any of these people are, but it's interesting that on the ´óÏó´«Ã½ News poll page, over 78% of respondants think Charles Kennedy should run.

  16. At 02:27 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Tony wrote:

    It was nice to see the word FAT being used on the newsletter. I was thinking only this morning that nobody is FAT any more but OBESE instead.

    Nothing to do with recognising Lib Dems - you could have included a picture of Ming and I wouldn't have been any the wiser. (Maybe you did!?)

  17. At 02:30 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    I recognise three of them.

    But I also have a point about Minyiz Campbell - I don’t think his actual age was the main factor, but how old he looks. Plus the inevitable media-stirs-up-minor-story aspect.

  18. At 02:40 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    Well, I recognise Julia Goldsworthy on the top row, alongside Chris Huhne. Nick Clegg and Susan Kramer are on the bottom row, but I don't know who the two on the middle row are....

  19. At 02:50 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    Oh, if we're talking about actually "cutting-off" politicians, then I say the younger the better. Preferably at the age where contraceptives will stop them all-together.

    (Five 502s...)

    I don't know who any of these people are, but it's interesting that on the ´óÏó´«Ã½ News poll page, over 78% of respondants think Charles Kennedy should run.

  20. At 03:00 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    ah..the old Lib Dem party....just WHO are they?

  21. At 03:13 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    They're all too young to hold high office!

    What's the world coming to? We're kept in order by policemen too young to shave and politicians hardly out of nappies!

    Good government never depends upon laws, but upon the personal qualities of those who govern. The machinery of government is always subordinate to the will of those who administer that machinery. The most important element of government, therefore, is the method of choosing leaders.
    -- Frank Herbert, "Children of Dune"
    Wed Oct 17 14:37:11 BST 2007

  22. At 03:19 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    They're all too young to hold high office!

    What's the world coming to? We're kept in order by policemen too young to shave and politicians hardly out of nappies!

    Good government never depends upon laws, but upon the personal qualities of those who govern. The machinery of government is always subordinate to the will of those who administer that machinery. The most important element of government, therefore, is the method of choosing leaders.
    -- Frank Herbert, "Children of Dune"
    Wed Oct 17 14:37:11 BST 2007

  23. At 03:23 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Peter Wharton wrote:

    New cast for Torchwood.

  24. At 03:32 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    Oh, if we're talking about actually "cutting-off" politicians, then I say the younger the better. Preferably at the age where contraceptives will stop them all-together.

    (Six 502s...)

    I don't know who any of these people are, but it's interesting that on the ´óÏó´«Ã½ News poll page, over 78% of respondants think Charles Kennedy should run.

  25. At 03:44 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Stewart M wrote:

    I'm not impressed at the mug shots! Are you putting them on the iPM site?

  26. At 04:02 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    I’m going to try AGAIN!


    I recognise three of them.

    But I have some thoughts on the Minyiz Campbell resignation, too. I don’t think his age was actually the issue, so much as how old he looks - and of course allowing for the way the media promoted this ‘story’ beyond its minor status.

  27. At 04:15 PM on 17 Oct 2007, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    Coo, I am impressed by sending something twice, the second because I was told the server was unavailable, and having it appear three times! That's what I call service. Very poor service, but service... I wonder how many times this will appear?

    Oh yes, what I wanted to post about: i almost forgot.

    I don't think I would buy a used political party from any of the people in the photographs you've put up.

  28. At 04:21 PM on 17 Oct 2007, silver-fox wrote:

    Testing 14:03

  29. At 04:33 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    I heard on Today this morning that MPs will be getting marketing training. Judging by this lot I'd say the money would be better spent on some sort of reality TV make-over for them.

    Where are Trinny And Susannah when you need them?

  30. At 04:51 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    SSC (18),

    "over 78% of respondants think Charles Kennedy should run."

    I thought Brits stood for office, while Americans ran, but only an incomer like me is likely to notice the slow colonisation of English from the former colonies...

    Salaaaami
    ed
    "Zaphod grinned two manic grins, sauntered over to the bar and bought most of it."

    - Zaphod in paradise.

  31. At 05:14 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    SSC (18),

    "over 78% of respondants think Charles Kennedy should run."

    I thought Brits stood for office, while Americans ran, but only an incomer like me is likely to notice the slow colonisation of English from the former colonies...

    Salaaaami
    ed
    "Zaphod grinned two manic grins, sauntered over to the bar and bought most of it."

    - Zaphod in paradise.

  32. At 05:19 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    Okay, now you've just made me look stupid by re-arranging the photos and taking out the two women! I'm disappointed, Sequin!

  33. At 05:27 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    SSC (18),

    "over 78% of respondants think Charles Kennedy should run."

    I thought Brits stood for office, while Americans ran, but only an incomer like me is likely to notice the slow colonisation of English from the former colonies...

    Salaaaami
    ed
    "Zaphod grinned two manic grins, sauntered over to the bar and bought most of it."

    - Zaphod in paradise.

  34. At 05:40 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    I would recognise their voices, but as I only get my news via the radio, I don't do so well with their faces :)

  35. At 05:57 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    SSC (18),

    "over 78% of respondants think Charles Kennedy should run."

    I thought Brits stood for office, while Americans ran, but only an incomer like me is likely to notice the slow colonisation of English from the former colonies...

    Salaaaami
    ed
    "Zaphod grinned two manic grins, sauntered over to the bar and bought most of it."

    - Zaphod in paradise.

  36. At 06:25 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    SSC (18),

    "over 78% of respondants think Charles Kennedy should run."

    I thought Brits stood for office, while Americans ran, but only an incomer like me is likely to notice the slow colonisation of English from the former colonies...

    Salaaaami
    ed
    "Zaphod grinned two manic grins, sauntered over to the bar and bought most of it."

    - Zaphod in paradise.

  37. At 06:26 PM on 17 Oct 2007, wrote:

    Ed (29)

    Quite right. They stand for office so they can sit in parliament.

    Sid

  38. At 08:46 PM on 17 Oct 2007, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    Ed (all over the place, as most of us are at the mo'):

    You're right, I unthinkingly parrotted the "run" from the ´óÏó´«Ã½ web page soliciting the votes. Both I and the ´óÏó´«Ã½ should know better.

  39. At 08:57 PM on 17 Oct 2007, mittfh wrote:

    OK, I don't know any of them, but I do know how to navigate around Wikipedia... :)

    Top left: err, dunno (looks vaguely like a weather presenter!)
    Top right: Chris Huhne (currently their DEFRA secretary)
    Bottom left: Nick Clegg (currently their Home Affairs spokesman)
    Bottom right: Steve Webb (currently the chair of their manifesto team)

    Oh, and the photos on Wikipedia are rather more flattering than the mugshots above...

    (Ho hum - return of the 502!)

  40. At 10:10 AM on 18 Oct 2007, Vyle Hernia wrote:

    Yesterday I saw this in a care home:

    Age is a quality of mind. If you have left your dreams behind, If hope is cold, If you no longer look ahead, If your ambitions' fires are dead, Then you are old.

    But if from life you take the best, And if in life you keep tbe jest, If love you hold, No mattes how the years go by, No matter how the birthdays fly, You are not old.

    A web search indicated that it is poem by H. S. Fritch, entitled "How Old Are You?"

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