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You tubery. Chris...

Eddie Mair | 08:23 UK time, Thursday, 8 November 2007

..or Mr Blog as we know and love him, has posted a really interesting thing on the ipm blog - which has greater resonance in the light of events in Finland yesterday. See it here.

When I was in Oz the other week there was a HUGE fuss about a song about the dead which featured on a comedy show on the ABC called "The Chasers War on Everything" (there may or may not be an apostrophe problem in my memory). I was thinking of posting the You Tube version here so you could judge for yourself but it is late-night rude so I won't. But if you went to the site and entered "Chasers death" you might find it. BE WARNED the language is strong and the sentiments in the song might disgust you. It certainly disgusted many Australians - even the Prime Minister spoke out, though there is/was and election campaign going on. Needless filth or top satire?

And in the meantime here is an uncontroversial Sydney photo...

sydney.jpg

Comments

  1. At 09:14 AM on 08 Nov 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Yes, these postings are an issue, aren't they? I'm not sure how I feel about it, and personally don't visit YouTube a great deal.

    I think this would be a good item for iPM, perhaps in more general terms. Now that we have all these ways of communicating courtesy of the internet, what do people think about the way they are being used? I'm quite sure that the creators of these services did not anticipate that we'd be where we are, or where we're going, with suicide bombers and killers with serious mental health issues using YouTube etc. as a means of advertising their intentions or their outcomes.

    There's another issue which might be of interest and which Chris might like to know about, but I'll post on iPM with that.

    Oz, eh? You know that post about jetlag, Eddie, it now all makes much more sense. And I'm sure your tan is now replenished for the winter months. Hope you had a good time.

  2. At 10:57 AM on 08 Nov 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    I never knew Sydney had such big ears - gosh!

  3. At 11:21 AM on 08 Nov 2007, wrote:

    Perhaps Im getting the wrong end of the stick here?

    In rsponse to BigSis at (1) I don't think YouTube is the issue here.

    As regards to the song - I didn't find it offensive, just satyrical fun really.

    As regards to other items posted on YouTube - the site is monitored and items are occasionally removed if they are deemed either unsuitable or in breach of copyright.

  4. At 11:40 AM on 08 Nov 2007, wrote:

    And look what good old youtube has found BigSis -

    A nice clip of Julie Felix

    But she really needs some help with those lyrics!!

    We could have come up with better?

  5. At 11:44 AM on 08 Nov 2007, wrote:

    Jonnie: Click on my name and you'll get an idea of what I meant.

    Not only did the Finnish killer use YouTube as a vehicle in his mission, but others have done so in the past. Al Qaeda have also used YouTube for the purpose of recruitment, and I believe some suicide bombers also posted things up on the site to glorify their cause .....

    Does my post make more sense now?

  6. At 12:09 PM on 08 Nov 2007, wrote:

    Jonnie: Try this one for size!

    That one's from 1970. She's now 69, so not doing too badly, eh?

  7. At 12:18 PM on 08 Nov 2007, wrote:

    This is Ms Felix singing one of her hits - which all Simon and Garfunkel fans will also recognise

  8. At 01:18 PM on 08 Nov 2007, wrote:

    To avoid mentioning brand names, I now call YouTube "Mackenzie" in honour of First Minister Alex Salmond calling Kelvin MacKenzie "a big tube" in response to his mistruths about English funding of Scotland.

    "Ya big tube!" or "You tube!" is a classic Scottish playground insult and I warmed enormously to Salmond after he used it.

  9. At 01:47 PM on 08 Nov 2007, wrote:

    Thanks Big Sis.

    I wasn't in any way defending the actions of the users of YouTube - I was defending the medium.

    In this case a website for people to upload their video's - of which 'his' have subsequently been removed.

  10. At 01:48 PM on 08 Nov 2007, wrote:

    Eddie,
    Sorry confused here, you go on about Oz and YT but then you post a photo of Pam Andersons new bra. You trying to tell us something?
    :)

  11. At 03:06 PM on 08 Nov 2007, wrote:

    As so often, I'm with the cat.

    xx
    ed

    10.0 times 0.1 is hardly ever 1.0.

  12. At 03:25 PM on 08 Nov 2007, wrote:

    I loved the 'top blokes' 'vid!

    Top satire!
    Thanks for sharing.

    xx
    ed

    The future is a race between education and catastrophe.
    -- H.G. Wells

  13. At 03:43 PM on 08 Nov 2007, wrote:

    Sounds like some sort of new insult - *You Tubery Chris!*

  14. At 11:52 PM on 08 Nov 2007, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    I listened with about a third of an ear to a programme about Facebook and such on R4 earlier this evening, and decided that the advantages (people have to be able to read and write a bit in order to do this stuff, it keeps lots of folk off the street corners) may very slightly outweigh the drawbacks (this seems a bit like effectively stripping in public with no idea who is watching, and surely they are laying themselves open to exploitation by hungry merchandisers). It probably does less harm to anyone other than themselves than they would do if they were using the time playing on-line poker instead...

    But someone explain: if information about preferences and events were being distributed at a public meeting called by a 'friend' would it be flattering and make one turn up, or would it feel slightly that if it's like the Vicar's Christmas Broadsheet letter, distributed to the whole parish, it doesn't really mean very much in human warmth terms?

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