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David Jordan David Jordan | 18:00 UK time, Wednesday, 16 March 2011

There's a lot of fuss in a couple of newspapers this morning over whether the ´óÏó´«Ã½ ever uses private detectives in any of its journalism. It stems from a suggestion from one private detective that he may have done some work for Panorama almost 20 years ago.

The ´óÏó´«Ã½'s response to that suggestion has been to reveal that we do use private detectives occasionally and exceptionally to help with programmes. To some that has conjured up pictures of dozens of gumshoes beavering away for the ´óÏó´«Ã½, busily hacking into private voicemails or other people's e-mail accounts, or accessing deeply personal and private information illegally. All practices which have allegedly been happening frequently in some newspapers, as Panorama chronicled on Monday.

It is worth stressing that we are not aware of any ´óÏó´«Ã½ programme ever having commissioned a private detective to carry out this sort of illegal activity at any time in the past. It would be totally unacceptable and a serious breach of our editorial standards.

But engaging private detectives to do things of this sort is very different from asking them to undertake lawful activity as part of an investigation in the public interest. For example, consumer investigation programmes, where we have already established prima facie evidence of wrongdoing, may sometimes have difficulty in establishing the whereabouts of rogues, whose misdemeanours they have uncovered, so that they can confront them with allegations of that wrongdoing. We might employ third parties to carry out the necessary surveillance to find out where they are and where they might be approached and, on occasion, to obtain a photograph of them. Usually we track down individuals we want to speak to ourselves. But in very hard cases we might employ the specialist skills of a private detective to help us find someone. That may not be for suspected wrongdoing but could be to locate a witness to events which happened some time ago and who we are hoping will contribute to the programme.

So we could use third parties in a number of entirely lawful ways to help investigations and other programmes. But even if we did, their conduct would be governed not just by the law but by our own Editorial Guidelines. Undercover operatives, who are usually "clean skins" for obvious reasons, have to conduct themselves in accordance with the Editorial Guidelines and, often, a detailed protocol governing what they can and can't do. Any activity commissioned from a private detective would be managed in the same way if it involved breaches of privacy. The editorial guidelines are clear: intrusions into privacy need a strong public interest justification. And that does not include a prurient interest in the private lives of celebrities.

So suggestions that the ´óÏó´«Ã½ might use private investigators for political stories are wide of the mark and those who are "genuinely surprised the ´óÏó´«Ã½ used private investigators to stand up stories" should remain surprised. The ´óÏó´«Ã½ validates and stands up its own journalism wherever facts and information come from.

David Jordan is the ´óÏó´«Ã½'s Director of Editorial Policy and Standards

Comments

  • Comment number 1.

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  • Comment number 5.

    'It is worth stressing that we are not aware of any ´óÏó´«Ã½ programme'

    Just wondering, but how might ´óÏó´«Ã½ interviewers treat such a statement in mitigation by those they deal with?

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    6 of the first 7 comments disallowed......
    I take it nobody believes the article. That is a shame as I am sure that it is not the ´óÏó´«Ã½ amongst the "British" media empires that has the skeletons in the closet.

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    An explanation of my previous post:

  • Comment number 10.

    '8. At 9:22pm on 17 Mar 2011, Kit Green wrote:
    I take it nobody believes the article.


    Hard to assess. Maybe folk simply sought clarifications as some areas were raised that seemed 'vague'. Guess we'll never know.

    That is a shame

    In more ways then one.

    as I am sure that it is not the ´óÏó´«Ã½ amongst the "British" media empires that has the skeletons in the closet.

    Without doubt. But it is one whose stakeholders are required to pay, and hence support it, no matter what. Hence obliterating any possibly valid questions or feedback seems... 'interesting'.

  • Comment number 11.

    The ´óÏó´«Ã½ often deletes comments they simply don't like...
    What can we expect from their reporting? Or their elite journalists?
    Why do they need private investigators when they have MI5, is vetting applications all they did for almost fifty years?

  • Comment number 12.

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  • Comment number 13.

    Moderators, since you don't seem to like what the little people have to say, perhaps you should get a new readership.

  • Comment number 14.

    Surely when you have prima facie evidence of criminal activity you should go to the police and not risk ongoing criminal behaviour or allowing it to escalate by delaying a criminal ivestigation ?

  • Comment number 15.

    Why does the public have to pay to be insulted and condescended to??? Time for the Beeb to lose its charter and take to the commercial media waters like everyone else it the world. Sink or swim, Auntie, sink or swim!!!

  • Comment number 16.

    I think now is a good time to stop paying the Telly Tax. The ´óÏó´«Ã½ are not worth the money. They despise the people who fund them; they ignore them or condescend to them. And still expect them to fork out a huge amount of money to them purely for the right to have a telly in their house. Well, no more ´óÏó´«Ã½, until you give me value for money!

  • Comment number 17.

    I can't see what the problem is supposed to be. News materials have to be researched; why is it that if you use an in-house fact-checker or researcher, that's fine, but if you employ someone for their skills in obtaining, checking and interpreting data - which is what private detectives do - suddenly the sky is falling?

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    All this user's posts have been removed.Why?

  • Comment number 19.

    Nina Szombately wrote:

    I agree it's not the ´óÏó´«Ã½ that has the skeletons in the closet. The Daily Telegraph, News of the World, sometimes the Mail, rival the Soviet press in their use of underhand methods and contempt for the freedom and privacy of the individual once treasured in the West.

    Giving away your political leanings methinks?, you should also have added to your list....

    The Guardian, Daily Star and Independent.

    In fact the Guardian has one of the worst records according to the press complaints authority.

  • Comment number 20.

    Nothing wrong with using private eyes to help clarify the TRUE facts.
    Companies,politicians and private individuals use them all the time.

  • Comment number 21.

    All this user's posts have been removed.Why?

  • Comment number 22.

    The ´óÏó´«Ã½ may very well not use P.Is for political purposes, but it is very obvious that there is a strong left wing leaning within its corridors. This is totally unacceptable as they are totally financed publicly which should ensure a totally unbiased & balanced view of all subjects.

  • Comment number 23.

    Seems like if you want the truth today on stories involving corrupt banks or dishonest politicians you have to use private investigators and other investigative tactics. If find the ´óÏó´«Ã½'s coverage fair and balanced and think this is good use of the public's money.

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  • Comment number 25.

    Interesting to note what either doesn't make it through pre-mod, or is ditched on referral on this thread. And what does.

  • Comment number 26.

    To JunkkMale #25

    Maybe you could post in parts to identify which part of your whole post the mods rejected or maybe just hint at what was rejected.

  • Comment number 27.

    Rarely have I read anything quite as pompous.

    How much of our licence money is the ´óÏó´«Ã½ paying to these third parties? Are fees negotiated in advance or, as seems typical with any publicly-funded service, do they merely demand what they like?

    This is all getting too much like Orwell's prediction, only 30 years too late.

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  • Comment number 29.

    Not aware...doesn't go as far as to say that the temptation of the act or the act itself, isn't there or is there.

  • Comment number 30.

    '26. At 10:33am on 20 Mar 2011, _marko wrote:
    To JunkkMale #25

    Maybe you could post in parts to identify which part of your whole post the mods rejected or maybe just hint at what was rejected.'


    I guess I could. It would be an interesting exercise in some ways, but as things seem to change with shifts and oversight management moods, the control constant might be compromised. 'Off topic' can be a tricky one to dodge, especially when applied selectively, as can be noted by what is still up here. And don't forget the lurking threat of a total banning if one persists.

    Speaking of freedom of speech and commenting, the subsequent 'The Editors' post is kinda ironic. Doesn't seem to be going well.

    Maybe a private investigator could be hired to find out what has happened to the majority of the first tranch of posts here.

    Just kidding.



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