Giggs and Jenkins
I've just seen Rhodri Morgan.
The election results, he said, were awful, "a kicking - the worse I remember".
Just as he said after the local election results last year - - "the tide is turning against Labour but it is (still) not time to panic.
There was a typical Rhodri Morgan line: "We could have had Ryan Giggs and Katherine Jenkins at the top of our list - we would not have won".
His list of must-dos? Stay united, be seen to sort out the expenses mess, listen to the message delivered last night. How? On that front he said bluntly that something will be done, something will be moving before the end of this term.
It might have concentrated minds in Westminster, of course, that Labour lost 15 constituencies last night that are held by Labour MPs.
I'm Betsan Powys, ´óÏó´«Ã½ Wales' political editor. I'll be blogging the inside track on .
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