WEDNESDAY NIGHT LIVE!
We talked tonight about the UK's latest serial killer, the Botswanian bushmen and whether you'd support the right for blind people to go hunting.
Killer on the loose
Davide lives in Ipswich and has a young daughter: 鈥淚t worries me an awful lot.鈥
James: 鈥淚t鈥檚 almost like it鈥檚 brought on a Winter effect. It鈥檚 tragic that we should be looking over our shoulders every minute.鈥
Joy: 鈥淧ersonally I can鈥檛 go out on my own much now. It鈥檚 quite scary.鈥
James: 鈥淚t鈥檚 not too large a town to be impersonal. We鈥檒l pull together and get through it.鈥
Imogen: 鈥淲e need to go down the line of other European cities. I know someone who lives in the red light district of Ipswich and she doesn鈥檛 like it.鈥
Joy: 鈥淟egalising it will just make it more acceptable so I think we should help them get off the streets. Get them off drugs and back to a normal life really.鈥
Imogen: 鈥淚t鈥檚 the oldest profession in the world. We need to not stigmatise people. He鈥檚 only going for prostitutes because they have to go into men鈥檚 cars. If it was legalised then the women would have more control.鈥
Dawn is a former Escort girl and knows the law in the UK: 鈥淲e need to think about safety foremost. We鈥檒l never get rid of it so we might as well accept it. I鈥檇 say he has some sort of grudge against women, I don鈥檛 the law or the police could stop this. But we could make things a lot less opportunist for people.鈥
Some texts just in:
Sam from Ghana
鈥淧lease tell the media not to stress that the victims are prostitutes as if their murder is a lesser crime. 鈥
Jimmy in Monrovia
鈥淪top prostitution and be safe from all forms of danger. Their trade is very immoral.鈥
Dawn: 鈥渢ake pimps and drugs out of the equation and the vulnerability of the girls would decrease.鈥
Sebastian Horsley, artist, writer and prostitute user: 鈥淲hat鈥檚 happened is an aberration. There are hundreds and thousands of people working in prostitution. I don鈥檛 think you can do anything about this. It鈥檚 the texture of life for suffering to occur. Prostitutes are murdered because they are available to this sociopathic individual.鈥
Some texts and e-Mails just in:
An e-Mail from Bruce, Washington, DC:
鈥淚 seem to recall four young women being found near the seedier side of Atlantic City a few weeks ago, they too had their line of work questioned. No matter what their line of work, chosen or not, may be, being found dead in a ditch is no way for a person to go. Governments need to back off their puritanical ways and protect all its citizens.鈥
Sebastian: 鈥淚 applaud anything that makes it safer. Attitudes have changed to a certain extent. Prostitution is the mirror of man. Some of us sell our souls, some of us sell our minds and some sell our bodies.鈥
Tarro from the U.S.
鈥淪ympathies and regards to the Ipswich community from the US. It is unfortunate that attitudes towards prostitutes, on both sides of the Atlantic, makes the oldest profession a more dangerous one.鈥
Ben
鈥淲hy is it that the police have put the onus on these young women to stay off the streets? Why hasn't anyone told the johns to give up trolling for prostitutes until this killer is found? Someone is out there killing women and there are still other men on the streets desperate enough for sex that they won't spare the prostitutes several nights till the killer is caught.鈥
Nacole in Dallas, TX
鈥淭hese women may not have been on drugs, just desperate and without work skills. Many of these women are misguided and afraid that鈥檚 why they have pimps for protection. It is wrong for someone to take a life of another person regardless to weather they feel their job is morally right or not.鈥
Joan: 鈥淓verybody is very concerned. People are frightened and that in it鈥檚 way is very helpful. It needs to be managed.鈥
Rachel: 鈥淓veryone鈥檚 talking about it and taking more precautions. It鈥檚 making people think.鈥
Joan: I was living in Yorkshire when the Ripper was active. Even then I thought prostitutes were vulnerable. They egt into strange cars because it鈥檚 part of the way they work.鈥
Rachel: 鈥淭he sad thing is when the first one went missing a lot of people didn鈥檛 take much notice.鈥
Dawn: 鈥淭he whole issue of prostitution has come to the fore.鈥
Messages are flying in on this topic:
John, Nairobi:
鈥淲hy can't these women take heed to the warning given by the police department? It seems they are just challenging death and getting murdered. Why don't the police round up these prostitutes and keep in some safe havens?鈥
A text from Roger in Prague:
鈥淚f drug money is the cause of prostitution, society could lower the risk by providing free drugs to them. Catch 22 is that you can't stop non prostitutes taking advantage of this when you can鈥檛 formally identify someone in an illegal profession. Time for a change in the law re drugs and prostitution.鈥
And one from Berlin:
A. Green
鈥淚 would like to point out that prostitution is already legal in Britain; it is soliciting which is unlawful.鈥
We鈥檙e back from the news and the texts are still coming:
MA'ARUF in Nigeria
STREETWALKERS SHOULD BE PREVENTED FROM WALKING TO DARKNESS,PERIOD!
Adam from Uganda
Prostitution should not be legalised because selling your body is immoral and a bad example for young girls who are stil in school.
Obi from Nigeria.
Murder is a crime and I urge the British police to bring the individual to book for this evil. Don't legalize prostitution.
Tony, Washington, D.C. has e-Mailed:
鈥淚t is astounding for to hear one of the individuals you were talking to state that prostitution should be legalized so that it becomes safer for these young women. These young women were participating in acts that drive some men (look at the men in prison and show me one man who is accused of murder who doesn't have a sexual problem and I will believe you) to the extremes of taking the life of someone else in a search for gratification. Legalizing prostitution just like pornography will perpetuate the problem. Making a vice legal doesn't make the problems go away it just makes the road that much wider to travel. 鈥
The Saan of Botswana
Smith is part of the Baswara tribe: 鈥淚t should be a lesson to indigenous people worldwide. It鈥檚 not an easy war. You have to fight for it.鈥
Goitseone is in Botswana: 鈥淭hey were afraid to just say the truth.鈥
Matambo: 鈥淚t means a lot. It鈥檚 not a concern on our part for them to take an appeal.
Kiletsko is from Botswana and is on work experience here in London with the 大象传媒. She is opposed to the ruling: 鈥淲e cannot afford for people not to be educated. I am being sponsored by the government here today. Don鈥檛 be a specimen for the West to hunt and gather.鈥
Matambo: I can use a computer but I鈥檓 still part of the bush.鈥
Kiletsko: 鈥淚 don鈥檛 mind maintaining your culture but nobody can cheat me out of anything 鈥榗os I鈥檓 educated. It鈥檚 not practical for Botswana as a whole.鈥
Matambo: 鈥淭he government is being selfish. The state has to understand how the people want to progress in life. 500 years ago we were mainly herders and arable farmers.鈥
Kiletsko: 鈥淚 love the Bushmen culture. I am saying as a fellow African. We are all under the pressure of looking to the West. I鈥檓 not saying you should get a laptop. When healthcare is given to you and you deny the next generation that . . . we are a whole. You are a Basarwa and a Botswana.鈥
Matambo: 鈥淪ome groups are down some groups are up. Groups have ways of looking after themselves. 鈥
Cameron: 鈥淎bout 40 years ago the Rev Mike Scott helped Namibia to put it鈥檚 case to the UN and that the SA governments could not tell Namibians what to do.鈥
Kiletsko: 鈥淐an you afford to have your children to depend on tribal medicine?鈥
Weaver Mumba,LSK,ZAMBIA.
The Bushmen should be integrating not isolating themselves. We all left the bush a long time ago.
Majid in Nigeria
The ruling today in Boswana clearly shows that wat Africa can manage is poverty
Milimo Malambo in Zambia
The Kalahari game reserve is an illegal entity. Long live the Saan people.
Shootin鈥 blind
Kirby: 鈥淭here鈥檚 a need for legislation to allow people with physical challenges to participate and be a part of the outdoors. You have to be safe. All hunting has to be safe.鈥
Rabiyah is curious: 鈥淗ow does a blind person shoot?鈥
Kirby: 鈥淜ids who shoot blind have very smooth hands. They鈥檙e in touch with their surroundings . . . more than we are. You put them in a safe position and you mentor them in terms of hunting safety. Once they are in position you get them squared away with the rifle in the right position and they put then head over on one side and you put your chin on the rifle for them and say a little bit left or a little bit right.鈥
Simon is visually impaired: 鈥淚 don鈥檛 see how they will get pleasure from this. Blind people need tactile things.鈥
Francesco: 鈥淚 think this is hilarious. All of all of the activities to make inclusive hunting would not be high on my list.鈥
Simon: I wouldn鈥檛 like to be in a field with another blind person with a gun
Kirby: 鈥淲e have lots of folks that are blind and it鈥檚 a unique way for them to experience the outdoors.鈥
Simon: 鈥淵ou can experience the outdoors without shooting a gun. I don鈥檛 see the pleasure.鈥
Kirby: 鈥淚t鈥檚 an incredible experience. And folks we鈥檝e worked with have told us this. This is all part of being just a regular person and being part of the regular community.鈥
Cheree is in Nevada: 鈥淚 find the concept unsporting. I鈥檓 part native American. We don鈥檛 shoot things just for fun. We shoot them to eat them.鈥
Kirby Brown of the Texas Wildlife Association: 鈥淚 agree.鈥
Francesca: 鈥淚 would rather nobody used guns. The Texas state has a mentally challenged man in the White House so I鈥檓 not surprised.鈥
A great set of debates tonight folks. I hope you enjoyed it as much as we did. Apolgies to all who were due to come on but didn't - we were short of time. I鈥檒l leave you with some more texts and e-Mails we had on tonight鈥檚 topics:
Smuts in Botswana
All people of the world were at one time hunters and gatherers but have since changed and embraced civilization. Basarwa or Bushmen should move with time.
Chinedu in Nigeria
The Judgement shows that the judiciary is indeed the last hope of the masses.
Michael in Prague
The blind should not be allowed to hunt for the simple reason that hunting is an act of cruelty and insensitivity towards animals. No matter what you think of the necessity to eat meat or not, in our century we should be humane to animals as much as we can - why then do we protect so much our dogs? And how can we condone when someone has FUN when hunting an animal to death?! We must help the blind, but they remind us of suffering, and animals shouldn't suffer, too.
Albert - Ghana
Legalise it, register them put them in a special district and let them each carry a sort of intelligent chip on their bodies which will register their activities and everything going on.
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