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Posted by careen (U1935190) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Is this new?
Yes, they trailed a special new dramatic technique.
Hmm, the thoughts of a teenage boy in his bedroom now. I can see a few problems with the realism of that one.
A talking Horrobin! She sounds like Jolene
Ivy has been in it before*, but either the actor is different or she has a cold ...
(*1989 to be precise, when she told Aunty Chris to bog off.)
This new "hearing thinking" is a bit strange ... how are we supposed to know thet we have gone into that mode? Perhaps there could be a distinctive noise to warn us it has happened, like a bing/bong doorbell.
i wondered why Alastair was giving Jamie a lift but I gather it was Daniel; all teenagers sound alike presumably. Mrs Horobin had a touch of Aunt Ada Doom, so not all bad
i wondered why Alastair was giving Jamie a lift but I gather it was Daniel; all teenagers sound alike presumably. Mrs Horobin had a touch of Aunt Ada Doom, so not all badÂ
That's why I said Daniel will probably be as troublesome as Jamie was last time, when I first heard him, cos he sounded just like him!
And they obviously have to have a resident 'youngster' in the thing, to set storylines round, like they did with Jamie last time, seeing as this is supposed to be the 'younger version' of TA!
Yuck I did not like the thinking allowed AT ALL
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
In reply to Jane in Egypt:
Yuck I did not like the thinking allowed AT ALLÂ
You're surprised it is aloud.?
To start with I thought they were mumbling to themselves!
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Posted by MinnieBannister (U3716023) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
Me neither. Ridiculous narrative device. Surely at least an attempt at realism should be made?
But if it is to continue, instead of the suggested 'bing bong' to indicate thought, how about the word 'Thinks' instead - just like Bluebottle from The Goons?
Me neither. Ridiculous narrative device. Surely at least an attempt at realism should be made? Â
Erm....I'm struggling a bit here. Why is it ridiculous? Internal monologues may not ever have been used on 'The Archers' , but why not have them on 'Ambridge Extra'? It's not exactly radical--- such devices have been a staple of radio drama (Afternoon plays etc.) for the past fifty years at least.
Anyway, I enjoyed the episode, having spurned the earlier series of AmEX to avoid Alice!
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Posted by Lady Trudie Tilney Glorfindel Maldini (U2222312) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
This new "hearing thinking" is a bit strange ... how are we supposed to know thet we have gone into that mode?Â
It's good to exercise our little brains.........the tone of voice for the 'thinking' bits was different, and anyway you can work it out by what's being said.
I quite liked it - it's used in radio plays quite often isn't it, justnew/different for TA?
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Posted by PaulHammond (U5000908) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
It's not that difficult to understand - context tells you that Alistair isn't actually saying to Daniel his worries about the figure he saw being Clive Horrobin.
I don't think it's ridiculous, either - but I don't think I like it.
I like AmEx, but it seems to me all the adverse criticism may have killed it off. I'm judging by the scheduling - last time around, we had three repeats a day, an Omnibus edition on Friday and a repeat of that on Sunday after the Main Show omnibus.
I haven't checked out the weekend schedule yet, but this time around it seems we only have one broadcast of each episode, and no Friday omnibus - which suggests to me that they are only broadcasting the series that was already written but they won't be bothering with any more
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
I hope not - at least if it keeps up the standard of the first episode!
And I do hope we go to SA.
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Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
I like AmEx, but it seems to me all the adverse criticism may have killed it off. I'm judging by the scheduling - last time around, we had three repeats a day, an Omnibus edition on Friday and a repeat of that on Sunday after the Main Show omnibus.
I haven't checked out the weekend schedule yet, but this time around it seems we only have one broadcast of each episode, and no Friday omnibus - which suggests to me that they are only broadcasting the series that was already written but they won't be bothering with any more Â
Hi Paul
Keri responded to a similar comment on the blog:
the first series was very successful, helping ´óÏó´«Ã½ Radio 4 Extra put on half a million listeners compared to Radio 7, making it the most popular digital-only radio network.
We have no idea if further series of Ambridge Extra will be commissioned. The imminent announcement of where the cuts will fall through the Delivering Quality First strategy may well make it financially impossible. But if there are future series, the idea is that each one will be distinctive in a different way.Â
There is a Sunday omnibus of Ambridge Extra broadcast straight after The Archers at 11.15am.
Tayler
I'm not too keen on the thinking aloud bits but perhaps I could get used to it, if I stick with the series. I've never listened to AMEX before. It was ok
I've got no problem with hearing the interior monologue of characters. To me, it's no less realistic than the other 2 common ways of doing such things (frequently heard on TA), namely (1) characters talking to themselves, e.g. X walks into a messy house and instead of just thinking "Blimey, this is messy, I wonder where Mum is" actually says that out loud to himself and (2) character X describes to character Y something that each of them can see with their own eyes e.g. "Oh look Aunty Lizzie, it's Lilianfred coming back from school".
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
I thought it WAS characters mumbling to themselves until Alasdair was doing it in Dan'l's presence.
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Posted by BloimeeItsCloive (U14252629) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
"Is this new?"
Not really Shakespeare did it quite a lot.
And the Afternoon play does it ad nauseam!!
It might also stop the habit of breaking professional confidences. Usha the solicitor used to do this a lot and so did the vicar.
No rules about them thinking confidential information.
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Posted by Lady Trudie Tilney Glorfindel Maldini (U2222312) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
I think it's an interesting way of putting the story across - saves having to have characters tell us what they're thinking in contrived dialogue situations, eg Kathy popping round for a cup of tea or Ruth delivering a card.
It might get a bit much if it was used in a once-a-day soap but it makes this seem more of a drama series.
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Posted by Farewell Fieldpenguin (U2266391) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
I like this. Reminds me of an acting exercise we did where we had two actors, one for what somebody said and the other for what he was thinking.
Funny when Daniel's noncommittal answers about Erin contrast with what he's really thinking. There could be potential if we had a character with two interior voices - like the angel and devil in Tom And Jerry:
Clive: Hello Shula
Good Clive: Stables! Nice horsies!
Bad Clive: Kill! Kill! Kill!
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