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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by toffee (U8026926) on Thursday, 12th July 2012
Well I'm totally shocked that they outed (so to speak) Kate after only 3 episodes!
I'm not sorry, mind, they were getting boring already. Affairs in soaps have always bored me and this was repetitious already.
Almost as boring as Pheebs talking like an American teenager.
Interesting thart Lucas desperately needs the job cos he needs the money, yet Kate - being a rich Aldridge - just spends cash like it's from a bottomless pit, by the sound of it.
Does Daddy send her an allowance? It sounds like Lucas could never afford those jeans! -
Message 2
Posted by toffee (U8026926) on Thursday, 12th July 2012
And I meant after 4 episodes of course, not 3!
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Message 3
Posted by charmingAnnielynn (U11952070) on Thursday, 12th July 2012
I'm very pleased that it happened this early, actually! When Phoebe first went to SA I was rooting for her to realize that Kate is flaky, and hoped Phoebe would return home with a more realistic picture of Kate. I'd just about given up hope at this point, but now it seems like there's still a chance! I think it's pretty likely that Phoebe will at some point admit to Kate what she's seen, and somehow I don't see Kate managing a mature conversation about why she's chosen to engage in an affair (not that I think there's really justification for that sort of thing in the first place). Kate is much more likely to spend 20 seconds telling Phoebe why it's the right thing to do, then flouncing off when Phoebe doesn't immediately agree that of course, Kate is totally right, and still a perfect person. Possibly Kate will even throw in a parting shot about how it's just as well Phoebe is going back to England soon, if she's going to be so non-understanding.
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Message 4
Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Thursday, 12th July 2012
If Pheobe is Kate's daughter she will find a way of making use of this info, eg blackmail for several pairs of those expensive jeans : )
Getting her own way will be a doddle after this!
I would like to think she will learn to value to Roy and Hayley's values - but it might take another 10 years. -
Message 5
Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Thursday, 12th July 2012
I think Phoebe already seems to have Kate quite sussed - from the comments she was making to Mandisa I got the feeling that she'd been learning quite a bit about Kate's character over the year.....
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Message 6
Posted by Dora Pandle (U14741938) on Thursday, 12th July 2012
I agree. I think she was shocked that Kate would abandon her at to go and see her lover though. Maybe we're getting to hear the whole 'Phoebe becomes disillusioned with Kate' story.
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Message 7
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 12th July 2012
I don't think they have actually done it yet? Or at least not often?
So Kate can perhaps persuade Pebble that it was just fun flirting? -
Message 8
Posted by toriren (U14736767) on Thursday, 12th July 2012
You innocent, you!
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Message 9
Posted by killary (U6847689) on Thursday, 12th July 2012
I don't think they have actually done it yet? Or at least not often?
So Kate can perhaps persuade Pebble that it was just fun flirting? Ìý I am glad that we did not hear what went on, but I am sure that we are supposed to assume that they did not just hold hands and look wistfully into each other's eyes.
Would Johan have telephoned Kate just to have a chaste chat? I think they are having a passionate fling that neither really thinks will go any further. -
Message 10
Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Thursday, 12th July 2012
Lord save us from another "shower" scene like the with Syd and Jolene. It was the talk of the wash-house for some time!
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Message 11
Posted by Malahide (U14258229) on Thursday, 12th July 2012
I don't think they have actually done it yet? Or at least not often?
So Kate can perhaps persuade Pebble that it was just fun flirting? Ìý I am glad that we did not hear what went on, but I am sure that we are supposed to assume that they did not just hold hands and look wistfully into each other's eyes.
Would Johan have telephoned Kate just to have a chaste chat? I think they are having a passionate fling that neither really thinks will go any further. Ìý Kate was caught in flagrante when Phoebe rang begging to go on the trip to the Cape - it was the reason she gave in so easily (to Phoebe's request, that is) - she had already given in to Johan. -
Message 12
Posted by Glebe Cow (U2281862) on Friday, 13th July 2012
I'm afraid Kate will tell Phoebe a pack of lies and then buy her load of stuff and Phoebe through a combination of naivety and self-interest will persuade herself Kate's telling the truth.
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Message 13
Posted by Ayesha Bhatia (U14738640) on Friday, 13th July 2012
If Pheobe is Kate's daughter she will find a way of making use of this info, eg blackmail for several pairs of those expensive jeans : )
Getting her own way will be a doddle after this!
I would like to think she will learn to value to Roy and Hayley's values - but it might take another 10 years.Ìý True, but Kate will be just as angry with Phoebe and Mandisa for prying into her emails.
After all, it wasn't actually Phoebe who looked at them, it was Mandisa.
I do think though, that Phoebe could have protested a bit more when Mandisa looked at the emails, but she plainly wasn't interested.
By the way, I do hate the voice of the girl whose playing Mandesa, it's awful!
Far too loud and squeaky for my liking.
I don't much like her character either, from the little we've seen of it.
I actually prefer Michael and Delia, although they aren't technically related to Phoebe, but Phoebe does call Delia some African name, which I presume is some kind of relative acknowledgement, and she seems to get on well with Lucas's parents.
Even Lucas is nice to Phoebe, after all, Kate's child visiting for a bit is one thing, but Kate's child spending more than a year with them is quite another.
Do you think Phoebe's loyalty and sympathy will go towards Lucas?
And what will Kate say to the fact that Phoebe and Mandesa were prying into her emails?
I still wonder whether something will happen.
Read the first post in the
Archer's Spoilers
section, and you'll see what I mean.
Watch out at the beginning of august ...
Ayesha -
Message 14
Posted by Ayesha Bhatia (U14738640) on Friday, 13th July 2012
I don't think they have actually done it yet? Or at least not often?
So Kate can perhaps persuade Pebble that it was just fun flirting? Ìý I am glad that we did not hear what went on, but I am sure that we are supposed to assume that they did not just hold hands and look wistfully into each other's eyes.
Would Johan have telephoned Kate just to have a chaste chat? I think they are having a passionate fling that neither really thinks will go any further. Ìý I disagree with you.
We've learnt that Johan can lie convincingly.
He's sworn to Lucas's dad that there is nothing going on between him and Kate, when we know there has been and is.
Lucas's dad might be old, but he's not stupid.
He and Lucas's mum feel that their children, Lucas and now their daughter-in-law Kate have some perfect fairytale marriage.
That isn't true because Johan also has a reputation with the ladies.
I think Kate will leave Lucas, attach herself to Johan and take the kids.
Lucas will go off to Durban and Kate and the kids will go to Johan.
Then Kate will be told:
"Oh my love, it's wonderful ... however ... i said i'd look after you ... um ... but ... not the kids too! ..."
and then Kate will have all her hopes and dreams demolished.
Then she'll run home to:
"oh! ... Kate! ... Darling! let mummy make you hot soup ... dry your tears ... molly-coddle you for the rest of your life ..."
while you, Kate:
sit in Ambridge ... spend all of darling daddy's money ... and make Roy and Hayley's life miserable ... because they've only just got their daughter back after more than a year that Kate and Phoebe extended ... but instead of peace ... Kate will be around too ... and her other children ...
Maybe I'm a synic ... I just don't know!
Ayesha -
Message 15
Posted by toffee (U8026926) on Friday, 13th July 2012
"Oh my love, it's wonderful ... however ... i said i'd look after you ... um ... but ... not the kids too! ..."
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He might also have added 'I said I'd look after you .... but not exclusively'
Seeing as he was dallying with a student when Lucas' Dad caught him, and he probably makes a habit of sleeping with his students, at the same time (tho not literally, tho he might well be up for that idea ...) he was shagging Kate.
I agree with the comment someone made about Pheebs friends voice. She sounds a lot older than 14 as well..
But there again, to me, Milton sounded a lot older than 18!
And I thought this TAX only STARTS in SA?! That's what they said in trailers I heard. I've said this before, but that made it sound like some of it is in Ambridge. I do hope so. I can't take 26 episodes of all these confusing voices sounding the same, let along 26 episodes of Kate! -
Message 16
Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Friday, 13th July 2012
My daughter has pointed out that Johan is played by William Gaminara, who plays Prof Leo Dalton from Silent Witness.
Am going to find it disturbing to imagine Prof Dalton and Kate in flagrante from now on! -
Message 17
Posted by orson cartier (U2255827) on Friday, 13th July 2012
Phoebe doesn’t need Kate to buy her a load of stuff. Phoebe has Miss Mandisahacker as a best friend. What she can’t get for her on-line with her skills can be got by hacking into Johans account for a bit of blackmail and then sawd the camping trip they’ll be off staying in a ski resort instead.
Phoebe seems to be holding a good hand of cards she has two mothers two fathers two homes and a bessy friend that’s shaping up nicely to be the next Aaron Bond -
Message 18
Posted by Dora Pandle (U14741938) on Friday, 13th July 2012
Some in Ambridge and then some in New Zealand.
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Message 19
Posted by mike (U14258103) on Friday, 13th July 2012
>>>I do hope so. I can't take 26 episodes of all these confusing voices sounding the same, let along 26 episodes of Kate!<<<
I agree that it is confusing at first, but I can now identify all the new voices ... surely it only takes a couple of episodes to do this? -
Message 20
Posted by Ayesha Bhatia (U14738640) on Friday, 13th July 2012
"Oh my love, it's wonderful ... however ... i said i'd look after you ... um ... but ... not the kids too! ..."
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He might also have added 'I said I'd look after you .... but not exclusively'
Seeing as he was dallying with a student when Lucas' Dad caught him, and he probably makes a habit of sleeping with his students, at the same time (tho not literally, tho he might well be up for that idea ...) he was shagging Kate.
I agree with the comment someone made about Pheebs friends voice. She sounds a lot older than 14 as well..
But there again, to me, Milton sounded a lot older than 18!
And I thought this TAX only STARTS in SA?! That's what they said in trailers I heard. I've said this before, but that made it sound like some of it is in Ambridge. I do hope so. I can't take 26 episodes of all these confusing voices sounding the same, let along 26 episodes of Kate!Ìý
Yes I said I didn't like her voice.
No Milton and Mandesa both sound like prats to me.
I haven't warmed to them at all while I have to Lucas's parents and to Lucas as well whom we don't see much of.
Would be nice to hear Sipho and Noli a bit too.
Hope Phoebe comes home.
Johan probably likes lots of women and lots of the time.
Whether he'd share himself with more than one at a time, I don't know.
But then, you never can tell, he may swing both ways too!
Each to their own, I guess!
I just hope silly, spoilt, pampered, selfish Kate, learns her lesson and learns very quickly how to grow up.
God knows she needs too!
Ayesha -
Message 21
Posted by Lakey_Hill (U14391672) on Friday, 13th July 2012
The Johann trailers said that he always had a female student in his office.
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Message 22
Posted by charmingAnnielynn (U11952070) on Friday, 13th July 2012
It would be interesting if Phoebe sided with Lucas, wouldn't it?
I think it would be great in a few episodes for Kate to catch her bit-on-the-side with one of his female students. I suspect that she's one of those women who would be outraged, and fail to see the hypocrisy of expecting high moral standards from a man who is willing to seduce a married woman while at the same time seeing her husband socially in their home, and acting like it's a strictly professional relationship. -
Message 23
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 13th July 2012
I think it depends if Johan is "having an affaire" or just a bit of meaningless physical pleasure. Isn't he himself married?
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Message 24
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 13th July 2012
a man who is willing to seduce a married woman while at the same time seeing her husband socially in their home, and acting like it's a strictly professional relationship.Ìý
Well he's hardly going to grope her at table?
And he did phone Kate and say he would cry off if she wanted. -
Message 25
Posted by acebass (U3133653) on Friday, 13th July 2012
a man who is willing to seduce a married woman while at the same time seeing her husband socially in their home, and acting like it's a strictly professional relationship.Ìý
Well he's hardly going to grope her at table?
And he did phone Kate and say he would cry off if she wanted. Ìý So he did. What a gentleman! -
Message 26
Posted by Lady Trudie Tilney Glorfindel Maldini (U2222312) on Friday, 13th July 2012
Just finished LA'ing...it's certainly fast-paced, this series, quite a reflief after waiting for some of the main TA storylines to evolve!
I'm impressed with how well developed the characters are after so few epis....Mandisa, Delia, Johann, I feel I know them already. Johann is obviously a grade 1 creep but what was Kate thinking rushing off like that? Talk about making it easy for him!
['well, it worked, didn't it? you came...'] -
Message 27
Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Friday, 13th July 2012
My daughter has pointed out that Johan is played by William Gaminara, who plays Prof Leo Dalton from Silent Witness.Ìý Who also played the Rotter who shagged Shula while living with Usha.
it's Kate's house,isn't it? Didn't she buy it with Peggy's money, and that's how Brian found out Peggy had given each of Jenny's kids an offshore account in case he left All to Ruairi? -
Message 28
Posted by seejay63 (U14296183) on Friday, 13th July 2012
My daughter has pointed out that Johan is played by William Gaminara, who plays Prof Leo Dalton from Silent Witness.
Am going to find it disturbing to imagine Prof Dalton and Kate in flagrante from now on!
Ìý
Apparently he also played Dr Richard Locke in The Archers! (that's from before I started listening to it though) -
Message 29
Posted by Dailyfix (U14602649) on Saturday, 14th July 2012
I agree. I think she was shocked that Kate would abandon her at to go and see her lover though. Maybe we're getting to hear the whole 'Phoebe becomes disillusioned with Kate' story.Ìý That would be lovely, dare we hope?
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Message 30
Posted by Pat_Clifton (U14447939) on Saturday, 14th July 2012
Pheobe seems quite aware of her mum's failings and not averse to using them to her own advantage. After all, that's how she got to go to SA in the first place, and how she is staying for an extra month. But how is she going to react to the latest revellation and who, if anyone will she tell? She seems to have a good relationship with her south african 'granny' (didn't she call her 'go-go' or some such?; and I think Delia had a name for her, too) Perhaps she will tell her.
The wild card in all this seems to be Madissa (Radio Melville). She's a big gob and a sense of mischeif. I think it's entirely possible she could spill the beans on Kate. -
Message 31
Posted by Dailyfix (U14602649) on Saturday, 14th July 2012
Do they owe Kate confidentiality given they hacked her email? Lucas is the innocent party does he have a right to know? His wise father (great characters the parents in law ) already suspects.
Will Phoebe blackmail her mother showing she is a chip off Kate's block, or want to go home like any Tucker in a crisis or drop unsubtle hints and see how her mother reacts like a stroppy teenager. I am really keen to find out. -
Message 32
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Saturday, 14th July 2012
Denial is the only way for Kate.
Yes, she flirted with Johan but he is like that.
She had run off in a panic because she swallowed his trick email.
And he is called "Bechy" because he is always talking about his time in Bechuanaland.
Non stop Mafecking
Now, let's order those jeans you wanted?
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Message 33
Posted by nesta vipers (U2256451) on Sunday, 15th July 2012
My daughter has pointed out that Johan is played by William Gaminara, who plays Prof Leo Dalton from Silent Witness.
Am going to find it disturbing to imagine Prof Dalton and Kate in flagrante from now on!
Ìý That's nothing, he was also Shula's Doctor squeeze - the man has form.
Do you think Kate & him will come back to Ambridge when she leaches Lucas (& what will Shula say? Hahahahahahaha)
Cheers nesta
PS who said they hadnt 'done' it yet? do get real! -
Message 34
Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Sunday, 15th July 2012
"My daughter has pointed out that Johan is played by William Gaminara, who plays Prof Leo Dalton from Silent Witness. "
I thought William Gaminara was the other one in Silent Witness - the younger, dark, brooding one. -
Message 35
Posted by Margaret (U14756851) on Tuesday, 17th July 2012
"My daughter has pointed out that Johan is played by William Gaminara, who plays Prof Leo Dalton from Silent Witness. "
I thought William Gaminara was the other one in Silent Witness - the younger, dark, brooding one.Ìý that's Dr Cunningham, played by Tom Ward. -
Message 36
Posted by Ayesha Bhatia (U14738640) on Tuesday, 17th July 2012
My daughter has pointed out that Johan is played by William Gaminara, who plays Prof Leo Dalton from Silent Witness.
Am going to find it disturbing to imagine Prof Dalton and Kate in flagrante from now on!
Ìý
Apparently he also played Dr Richard Locke in The Archers! (that's from before I started listening to it though)Ìý God I remember Richard Lock, but I must say I wouldn't have, and I didn't, recognise the voice. Actors and actresses are so talented!
Wish I had a talent, it would certainly make my life interesting ...
Well it's nice to have someone return to TA and TA and AMEX in some way once they've finished playing one character, I wonder if he, the actor, feels that things have changed?
Wouldn't it be interesting to ask him?
I wish the actors could, or would, come on here sometimes, they might find listeners comments, on any of the discussion boards, interesting.
Then they can smile to themselves if we've guessed things correctly, or shake their heads to themselves if we're way off track.
The trouble is though, we'll never know!
Ayesha -
Message 37
Posted by careen (U1935190) on Tuesday, 17th July 2012
I hope Kate is not going to become HIV positive from her liaison with Johan.
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Message 38
Posted by toffee (U8026926) on Tuesday, 17th July 2012
I hope Kate is not going to become HIV positive from her liaison with Johan. Ìý
They were on about drugs given to non HIV sufferets whose partners are HIV+ on the radio before, and whether that's good or bad, and they were saying that the numbers are rising in African men.
So it would be topical at least!
Tho it's usually they go back to Africa, get infected and spread it round when they get back to the UK. -
Message 39
Posted by nesta vipers (U2256451) on Tuesday, 17th July 2012
She's quite prepared to leave her children it seems to me from that last bit
I hope it all comes out & she is shown up for the rotten cow she is!
As for the naughty lecturer/ dr Locke - terrific voice/accent IMO
Cheers nesta -
Message 40
Posted by Poorgrass (U12099742) on Tuesday, 17th July 2012
I hope Kate is not going to become HIV positive from her liaison with Johan. Ìý Well, if he has had Kate, there's no telling who else he has bonked. I wouldn't have a lot of sympathy if she did pick up something nasty.
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Message 41
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 17th July 2012
She's quite prepared to leave her children it seems to me from that last bitÌý
I took it that she and the children were staying on Jo'burg. -
Message 42
Posted by Poorgrass (U12099742) on Tuesday, 17th July 2012
Still think it's only a matter of time before she goes running home to mummy dahling...
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Message 43
Posted by Ruralass (U14720431) on Thursday, 19th July 2012
I don't think they have actually done it yet? Or at least not often?
So Kate can perhaps persuade Pebble that it was just fun flirting? Ìý I am glad that we did not hear what went on, but I am sure that we are supposed to assume that they did not just hold hands and look wistfully into each other's eyes.
Would Johan have telephoned Kate just to have a chaste chat? I think they are having a passionate fling that neither really thinks will go any further. Ìý I have only listened to AmEx a couple of times when it first appeared (a rather dull episode about Daniel's girlfriend or something)and current Ambridge storylines have reduced me to being an occasional listener only. But working out what may be happening in Ambridge Extra based solely on the message boards is a terrific new game! -
Message 44
Posted by Dora Pandle (U14741938) on Thursday, 19th July 2012
A lot of the speculation seems to be by people who don't listen. This series is great so far. Much better than previous ones.
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Message 45
Posted by seejay63 (U14296183) on Thursday, 19th July 2012
As for the naughty lecturer/ dr Locke - terrific voice/accent IMO
Ìý
I didn't think it was very good, but to confirm it I've just been listening with my SA husband sitting next to me. As soon as he heard the accent he scoffed at it - he said it's the cliched put on SA accent. -
Message 46
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 19th July 2012
I didn't think it was very good, but to confirm it I've just been listening with my SA husband sitting next to me. As soon as he heard the accent he scoffed at it - he said it's the cliched put on SA accent.Ìý
And was the programme aimed at the average Brit or at AustralAfrican linguists? -
Message 47
Posted by Poorgrass (U12099742) on Friday, 20th July 2012
But I like things to be right. I have no special knowledge, but the accent sounded a bit odd to me, although I'm not good enough to be certain. I don't think as a point of general principle we should be fobbed off with the Dick van Dyke school of foreign accents.
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Message 48
Posted by seejay63 (U14296183) on Friday, 20th July 2012
I didn't think it was very good, but to confirm it I've just been listening with my SA husband sitting next to me. As soon as he heard the accent he scoffed at it - he said it's the cliched put on SA accent.Ìý
And was the programme aimed at the average Brit or at AustralAfrican linguists? Ìý
I just like it to be correct, and it wasn't. -
Message 49
Posted by nesta vipers (U2256451) on Friday, 20th July 2012
Sounded good to me
Cheers nesta ( average Brit)
Ps actor also managed to made him sound pretty horrible scumbag imo -
Message 50
Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Tuesday, 24th July 2012
I almost felt sorry for Kate today - that was a VERY short lived affair, wasn't it? I don't think she got her money's worth at all.
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