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Posted by exxers (U15150817) on Thursday, 19th July 2012
OK, Yohan is a modddd but there is NO WAY that he has led her to believe there was anything serious in it for a second. He must feel a bit stalked; I feel sorry for him.
I can't remember (wasn't really interested) - did Carl lead Amy on?
Are many women like this in RL?
exxers
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 19th July 2012
I can't remember (wasn't really interested) - did Carl lead Amy on?Â
We didn't hear - they were an item when he first appeared. But he clearly lied to her, which Johann has not.
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Indeed, although we can buy it from Kate as she was always spoiled, unthinking and, although thought she was terribly grown-up, was always childish.
Phoebe also seems to have a touch of the 'Kates' about her too.
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Right. But do you agree, that while Johann may not be the perfect gentleman, he has never misled her about it being anything serious?
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No, he hasn't. Clearly was a bunk-up in the office and nothing more.
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OK, Yohan is a modddd but there is NO WAY that he has led her to believe there was anything serious in it for a second. He must feel a bit stalked; I feel sorry for him.
I can't remember (wasn't really interested) - did Carl lead Amy on?
Are many women like this in RL?
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Yes he did - he said "Let me take care of you. I won't let you down." And frankly Lucas was being pretty vile. Poor Kate
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 19th July 2012
See previous post!
But I don't think J's offer was for her and kids to shack up with him immediately!
More "I'll be your friend".
"Now let's get your knickers off."
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See previous post!
But I don't think J's offer was for her and kids to shack up with him immediately!
More "I'll be your friend".
"Now let's get your knickers off." Â
Exactly. ALL adults and (most) kids know that promises of "friendship" can be retracted, particularly when spoken without full brain engagement. Kate's character seems extremely plausible and v.v. @ the moment. We must wait.... exxers
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Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Sunday, 22nd July 2012
You know the old saying.....
God gave man a brain and a penis but not enough blood to use both at the same time.....
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Sunday, 22nd July 2012
Exactly. ALL adults and (most) kids know that promises of "friendship" can be retracted,Â
Are you saying that Johan retracts his promises along with his boerwors?
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Exactly. ALL adults and (most) kids know that promises of "friendship" can be retracted,Â
Are you saying that Johan retracts his promises along with his boerwors? Â
Impossible in his case. He didn't make promises. e
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Sunday, 22nd July 2012
Impossible in his case. He didn't make promises. eÂ
Didn't he say "I'll look after you" or similar?
Before adjusting her underwear.
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That could mean anything, from pledging his devotion to her & her children for life, to calling for a taxi home.
I know which end of the spectrum I'd be inclined to go for
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Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Sunday, 22nd July 2012
I thought his "I'll look after you" was a euphemism for "I won't let you get pregnant in the affair which we are about to embark on".
I certainly didn't hear any promises for any sort of future!
JPBS
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Impossible in his case. He didn't make promises. eÂ
Didn't he say "I'll look after you" or similar?
Before adjusting her underwear. Â
So what! I agree with JPBS. He wasn't thinking straight.
Bit of a rush but agree with whoever said could mean "call for taxi" or imo could have meant "not be violent". He was not proposing anything serious. Kate is sooo immature to have dared suggest a relationship with him.
Poor little Phebes.
(By the way - WHAT a coincidence that they should be in the same building in a rather large place in SA! SWs' imaginations - is there no beginning to them?)
Aren't you and I suppose to be on opposite sides on this one, OI?! e
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Sunday, 22nd July 2012
(By the way - WHAT a coincidence that they should be in the same building in a rather large place in SA! SWs' imaginations - is there no beginning to them?)Â
It's not as bad as it seems. It is the bar of the local college where the kids (and, it seems Kate) study and Johan teaches.
Aren't you and I suppose to be on opposite sides on this one, OI?! eÂ
You mean on a gender basis? No reason why we should. Hard to support either K or J as models of behaviour - though J has a couple of times given K the option to pull out, and so far as we know he has no wife/family he is betraying.
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Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Sunday, 22nd July 2012
Kate's been around the block a bit with men, hasn't she, in her youth?
Surely she
a: would want to vomit if someone offered to "look after" her
b: knows enough about letcherous predatory males to recognise one when she sees one.
This just doesn't ring true. (so nothing new, then..)
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OI, I concede on both points.
To next poster: very sorry got time/poota issue with looking up/down thread @ moment - interesting. Assume Kate would know about men - is she "in character" for being so unutterably naive? And for flinging herself at him emotionally?
TIA exxers
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Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Sunday, 22nd July 2012
Well .. there was Roy and that drug dealer .. She is very arrogant in her dealings with everyone - they are only seen in relation to her own needs.
And she was thinking of other things when he said he would look after her - which as we've remarked can mean many things ..!
And she's not quite the fancy free young woman she was in the past - she now has two young children to think of ..
JPB
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If Kate and Lucas' marriage was going well, I don't suppose that Kate would be interested in Johann for a minute. Kate is feeling unappreciated, and unsupported, and she is looking for ways out of a situation which she doesn't want (the move to Durban), so when someone she sees as stable and interested in the same things as her is apparently interested in her, and seems to offer support, she falls for it. I suppose that she also thinks that he will be an honourable type, because of all of the aid projects that he works on.
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>poor kate< ha ha ha
>Are many women like this in RL?< on the internet, yes
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JPBS - didn't know about Roy & drug dealer.
There is also Lucas to consider, and poor Phebes - well, I think we can see which parent she'll take after.
I didn't see Kate and Lucas' marriage as being problematic; I think that the problems are all inside Kate. Inability to be at peace. Actually, I feel really sorry for her, not in a patronising way. exxers
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Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 23rd July 2012
Roy is Phoebes father.
However Kate claimed the drug dealer (who she was seeing at the same time ..) was Phoebes father ..
JPBS
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Sorry, I don't think this is quite right. Kate claimed that a Crusty-type road protester called Luther was Phoebe's father She was only seeing them both for a brief time - she and Roy split up fairly soon after she started seeing Luther and then Luther himself disappeared off the scene. As far as I can recall, Luther was not a drug dealer.
The drug dealer was Jolyon Gibson, who Kate went out with when she and Roy split up on a previous occasion. He supplied the drugs with which Kate tried to kill herself.
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Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 23rd July 2012
OK - I stand corrected! Am obviously muddled about Kates affairs..
I remember that silly Jenny approved of Jolyon because he was County - little realising he was a drug dealer.
JPBS
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Ever more amazing. Thanks. Why did Kate try to kill herself? TIA exxers
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Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Tuesday, 24th July 2012
She didn't admit to that .. she said it was a mistaken overdose. However Hayley (then her friend) thought that was what she was trying to do ..
JPBS
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She didn't admit to that .. she said it was a mistaken overdose. However Hayley (then her friend) thought that was what she was trying to do ..
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Thanks, JPBS - for a girl with a past like Kate, you'd think she'd have more sense about Johann's intentions! e
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>I suppose that she also thinks that he will be an honourable type<
Why would she think that, when he is ploughing someone else's wife?
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>I suppose that she also thinks that he will be an honourable type<
Why would she think that, when he is ploughing someone else's wife?Â
I've only been listening for about 12 years: has Kate got a moral compass? What are her values (apart from charity being important - perhaps not beginning at home)? She didn't even remember Lucas' interview TIA exxers
While I can't stand her, I still feel sorry for her.
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Posted by flameofthewest (U14483084) on Wednesday, 25th July 2012
I remember that silly Jenny approved of Jolyon because he was County - little realising he was a drug dealer.Â
Indeed. Did you remember the great scene where Kate and Gibson (as he preferred to be known) invited Jenny and Brian to The Cottage for a meal? They served a vegetarian casserole which contained some unusual herbs. Jenny and Brian had a very jolly evening.
I don't think Kate really wanted to kill herself, it was more of a cry for help. Or maybe it was a genuine accident. Either way, she was young, confused and depressed.
Does anyone know when Kate and Lucas got married? If I recall correctly it happened off-air in SA, but Jenny and Brian attended.
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I remember that silly Jenny approved of Jolyon because he was County - little realising he was a drug dealer.Â
Indeed. Did you remember the great scene where Kate and Gibson (as he preferred to be known) invited Jenny and Brian to The Cottage for a meal? They served a vegetarian casserole which contained some unusual herbs. Jenny and Brian had a very jolly evening.
I don't think Kate really wanted to kill herself, it was more of a cry for help. Or maybe it was a genuine accident. Either way, she was young, confused and depressed.
Does anyone know when Kate and Lucas got married? If I recall correctly it happened off-air in SA, but Jenny and Brian attended.Â
I don't know when they got married.
But "young, confused and depressed" - not much change then. I feel increasingly sorry for her. exxers
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Posted by tulsehillterrier (U5390076) on Wednesday, 25th July 2012
Remember it well
Brian got the munchies in the night and stuffed on cheese butties
THT
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>I feel increasingly sorry for her<
you dig a pit and you lie in it. No sympathy. Anyone who continues to be a **** after the age of 16 deserves what they get
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>I feel increasingly sorry for her<
you dig a pit and you lie in it. No sympathy. Anyone who continues to be a **** after the age of 16 deserves what they getÂ
With respect, as a newbie, I've made mistakes in RL and oh how I've paid for them! However, by Kate's age and with three kids and a husband, yep.
Thanks. exxers
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