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Message 1.Â
Posted by Jacques Custard (U15080156) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Pointless. Boring Kenton, miserable Jolene. Was third time I have tried out Amex since start. Never again.
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Message 2
Posted by strokecitydave (U5467417) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Agree entirely - but somehow preferable to the shrieking "comedy" option (that calls itself Dilemma) on R$ mainstream.
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Message 3
Posted by Pahnda (U14681704) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Absolutely Dave, smart-arses shrieking is not my cup of tea either. I remember panel game type radio shows from when I was a youngster, Frank Muir, Dennis Norden et al. They could be quite witty and clever but the genre is well played out, has even been parodied for years by the Beeb itself in ISIHAC.
So I too switched to AmEx omni. I thought how well acted Fallon is, I had never really noticed this before. Kenton was shown to be a complete idiot, Dusty wouldn't have liked it. Jolene well out of her comfort zone. It wasn't too bad really compared to the dross we've had in TA this week. -
Message 4
Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Radio 3 offers a good alternative to R4. No need to suffer Amex.
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Message 5
Posted by Pahnda (U14681704) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Hi Anna, for some reason I never think of switching to R3, maybe because I'm not a great lover of serious music, I must try it.
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Message 6
Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Monday, 20th August 2012
It is uplifting rather than soul destroying - give it a try....
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Message 7
Posted by strokecitydave (U5467417) on Monday, 20th August 2012
even been parodied for years by the Beeb itself in ISIHAC. Â
Indeed. My brother and I were only saying last weeken how wickedly funny is Jack Dee's Nicholas Parsons, but without and attempt to impersonate him - brilliant, even thoough Just a Minute can be pretty fuuny as well. -
Message 8
Posted by tulsehillterrier (U5390076) on Monday, 20th August 2012
The SA set epis were great
These, set in NZ are terminally boring...so far
A pity
Must check out the writers
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Message 9
Posted by roastcumin (U2333842) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Agree entirely - but somehow preferable to the shrieking "comedy" option (that calls itself Dilemma) on R$ mainstream. I used to like Americana. Apparently the new R4 Controller thought Sunday evenings were inherently depressing because the weekend was nearly over, so her solution was to replace Americana with the sort of mediocre comedy we get every week night.
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Message 10
Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Monday, 20th August 2012
How quaintly old fashioned of her considering the ´óÏó´«Ã½ is always banging on about LAing and podcasts....
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Message 11
Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Erm..........mediocre? THAT good?
Cue for cries and rushing for instant switch-off in this house. -
Message 12
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Americana was brilliant - by the time I'd listened to the one following SATTC I'd almost forgotten the clunky misery of the latter ..
I was really really cross when they cancelled Americana ..
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Message 13
Posted by begur (U15332337) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Americana was brilliant - by the time I'd listened to the one following SATTC I'd almost forgotten the clunky misery of the latter ..
I was really really cross when they cancelled Americana ..
´³±Êµþ³§Ìý So did I. That''s probably why it was cancelled. I find that most of the things that I like tend to be discontinued post hate. It happens with brands of tights, particular scents and all sorts of things. Americana was just another example in a long list..
Best,
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Message 14
Posted by strokecitydave (U5467417) on Monday, 20th August 2012
SATTC Â
I'm probably just being dim and slow 'cos it's Monday, but please remind me what this stands for. -
Message 15
Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Monday, 20th August 2012
'Shakes Ambridge to the Core' - you know Nigel's plunge from the roof - easy to forget I know....
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Message 16
Posted by strokecitydave (U5467417) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Thanks Anna - of course. I was trying to think of a radio programme! I shall never forget the dull thud as the upper class twit hit the ground! (Dons flak jacket and hard hat ready for the "We love Nigel and hate VW" fan club.
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Message 17
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Sorry I wasn't clear .. I started a job (making more mince pies) just before the infamous episode - thinking if it was rubbish I'd not be wasting my time. And how right I was ..
The job took a long time and I ended up listening to the whole of that eves "Americana". It was a particularly excellent one ..
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Message 18
Posted by barwick_green (U2668006) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Agree entirely - but somehow preferable to the shrieking "comedy" option (that calls itself Dilemma) on R$ mainstream. Sue Perkins; tiny talent stretcheeeeeeeed a long way. She makes a living from mocking people /institutions which anyone with a sardonic nature.
Mind you, she's less annoying than the ´óÏó´«Ã½'s uber-irritant Arthur Smith whose lugubrious man of the people shtick ceased to be amusing a decade ago.
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Message 19
Posted by strokecitydave (U5467417) on Monday, 20th August 2012
I enjoyed Americana too. Generally I think we're overinterested in America (e.g. coverage of the primaries, which are no more than preliminary county contests to decide who aill lead the opposition challenge to the incumbent) but I thought that Justin Webb covered interesting and less reported aspects of American life.
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Message 20
Posted by roastcumin (U2333842) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Agree entirely - but somehow preferable to the shrieking "comedy" option (that calls itself Dilemma) on R$ mainstream. Sue Perkins; tiny talent stretcheeeeeeeed a long way. She makes a living from mocking people /institutions which anyone with a sardonic nature.
Mind you, she's less annoying than the ´óÏó´«Ã½'s uber-irritant Arthur Smith whose lugubrious man of the people shtick ceased to be amusing a decade ago.
(Apologies as OT.) Â
Sue Perkins, Sandy Toksvig, Arthur Smith, Richard Coles, Matthew Parris, Stephen Fry etc etc; all good broadcasters but so over-used by the ´óÏó´«Ã½ that I now groan whenever I hear their voices. -
Message 21
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Apropos of nothing much - I think we are all going to be whooo..oshed to the Bull or the AmEx board soon so better hang on to the sides ..
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Message 22
Posted by JudithL (U14272244) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Agree entirely - but somehow preferable to the shrieking "comedy" option (that calls itself Dilemma) on R$ mainstream. Sue Perkins; tiny talent stretcheeeeeeeed a long way. She makes a living from mocking people /institutions which anyone with a sardonic nature.
Mind you, she's less annoying than the ´óÏó´«Ã½'s uber-irritant Arthur Smith whose lugubrious man of the people shtick ceased to be amusing a decade ago.
(Apologies as OT.) Â
Sue Perkins, Sandy Toksvig, Arthur Smith, Richard Coles, Matthew Parris, Stephen Fry etc etc; all good broadcasters but so over-used by the ´óÏó´«Ã½ that I now groan whenever I hear their voices. I'll add Yasmin Alabi-Brown (?spelling), although at least she's not pretending to be funny. Just clever and intellectual and right-on liberal-minded.
Quite enough to make me reach for the off switch.
I listened to Dilemma for a few minutes last night while I was doing the washing up. Just the usual non-funny ´óÏó´«Ã½ dross. And although too much from the USA tends to annoy me, Americana was much better than the replacements. -
Message 23
Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Monday, 20th August 2012
dave, how can you never forget something that didn't happen? There was no dull thud as Nigel hit the ground, only a shriek as he was falling the hundreds of feet from the LL roof.
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Message 24
Posted by Pahnda (U14681704) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Agree entirely - but somehow preferable to the shrieking "comedy" option (that calls itself Dilemma) on R$ mainstream. Sue Perkins; tiny talent stretcheeeeeeeed a long way. She makes a living from mocking people /institutions which anyone with a sardonic nature.
Mind you, she's less annoying than the ´óÏó´«Ã½'s uber-irritant Arthur Smith whose lugubrious man of the people shtick ceased to be amusing a decade ago.
(Apologies as OT.) Â
Sue Perkins, Sandy Toksvig, Arthur Smith, Richard Coles, Matthew Parris, Stephen Fry etc etc; all good broadcasters but so over-used by the ´óÏó´«Ã½ that I now groan whenever I hear their voices. Ahem roasters, i think you mean REVEREND Richard Coles. -
Message 25
Posted by ´óÏó´«Ã½ auto-messages (U294) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Editorial Note: This conversation has been moved from 'Discuss The Archers' to ' Ambridge Extra'.
Moving this over to its rightful topic
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Message 26
Posted by shesings (U2666459) on Monday, 20th August 2012
I think the dull thud effect was the sheer tedium of Hellqueen not only surviving but turning into Calm Serene Earth Mother, even more irritating than the Bag of Jangling Nerve Ends she was pre-Henry!
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Message 27
Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Monday, 20th August 2012
Well, actually, The Write Stuff was for me the best post TA filler on a Sunday.
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Message 28
Posted by petal jam (U1466691) on Monday, 20th August 2012
her solution was to replace AmericanaÂ
errr.. I thought Americana came off becuase Matt Frei [reporter from the beginning] went to Channel 4 in a role which was no longer DC based. I loved it - but it hung, like Alistair Cooke's letters, on the energy of the presenter. Never as good when there was a holiday stand-in.
Btw I do hope that Clare Balding's shift to Chanel 4 wont mean the end of her radio pieces.
Don't think you can judge Amex by random programmes. What convinced me of their charm was listening to the whole Clive slot in an afternoon during a weekend with a bad cold. I took Phoebe's travels in two big bites, too, and much enjoyed it. In general I find Archers eppies more digestible via the Omnibus. It's least listenable ime when you tune in with expectations at 7. 02 and find a barrage of wittering on over the AGA which merely raises your bloodpressure instead of punctuating the week's offerings. -
Message 29
Posted by roastcumin (U2333842) on Wednesday, 22nd August 2012
her solution was to replace AmericanaÂ
errr.. I thought Americana came off becuase Matt Frei [reporter from the beginning] went to Channel 4 in a role which was no longer DC based. I loved it - but it hung, like Alistair Cooke's letters, on the energy of the presenter. Â
Well, Gwyneth Williams told Feedback she was axing Americana because she wanted comedy entertainment on Sunday evening. There are other ´óÏó´«Ã½ journalists reporting from the US - Jonny Dymond for example - who could have replaced Matt Frei pretty well. -
Message 30
Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Wednesday, 22nd August 2012
R4X is wall-to-wall 'comedy'. Why does it have to be on R4 at all? And how does that 6.30-7 p.m.slot get into the hands of some of the dullest 'funny people' I have ever heard.
Driven me to R2 6.30-7 - funnier, snappier, more informative. -
Message 31
Posted by strokecitydave (U5467417) on Wednesday, 22nd August 2012
And I've yet to find the "funny" bit of the Sunday night "comedy" slot, apart from Rory Bremner (first series very disappointing, 2nd series quite a lot better), but John Finnamore, Dilemma, etc., please spare me.
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Message 32
Posted by roastcumin (U2333842) on Wednesday, 22nd August 2012
There is clearly not enough good comedy available to fill all the week-night comedy slots on R4 let alone adding another one on Sunday. I am fascinated by Gwyneth Williams' perverse logic: Sunday night is a bit miserable and blue due to the looming approach of Monday, so we'll cure that by making it feel just like every week-night.
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Message 33
Posted by barwick_green (U2668006) on Thursday, 23rd August 2012
There is clearly not enough good comedy available to fill all the week-night comedy slots on R4 let alone adding another one on Sunday. I am fascinated by Gwyneth Williams' perverse logic: Sunday night is a bit miserable and blue due to the looming approach of Monday, so we'll cure that by making it feel just like every week-night. Â Sunday night is a bit miserable and blue due to the looming approach of Monday, so we'll cure that by making it feel just like every week-night. >
Spot on; why is R4 so turgid to listen to on a Sunday night? It's worse than R2 used to be when I was a child when 'Cheesey Charlie Chester' and the soundtrack to commit suicide to 'Sing Something Simple' was on. -
Message 34
Posted by Lakey_Hill (U14391672) on Thursday, 23rd August 2012
I've often wondered why we have all the finance and money programmes on Sunday (In Business, Money Box, etc.). Isn't it supposed to be a day of freedom from commerce and business? Is this because it's the only time that business people will listen??? (but then I can't imagine that anyone well up in finance or business would learn much that they didn't already know ...)
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Message 35
Posted by strokecitydave (U5467417) on Thursday, 23rd August 2012
I've often wondered why we have all the finance and money programmes on Sunday (In Business, Money Box, etc.). Â
That'to compensate us for the interminably pious "Beyond Belief" (IMHO a great literal rather than crptic title) on a Monday! -
Message 36
Posted by LesleyJ (U15332343) on Thursday, 23rd August 2012
The comedy has definitely gone down hill apart from The News Quiz and SIHAC, and even that can be a bit samey. As for Sue Perkins???? As soon as I hear her voice I have to switch off, she just isn't funny. R4 seem to use the same people over and over again and if you don't like them/find them funny/whatever you spend most of the week switching over, I have even started to listen ro Radio 3 to calm my nerves after bawling at theRadio when I hear Sue Perkins, Claire Balding, Shapi somebody or the other, who makes me look like comedien of the year, and many others, I used to love Stephen Fry.....
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