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Posted by AngelBinky (U2256591) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
I don't know if smoking cigarettes,cigars and pipes in the Bull is allowed, but because the Government are in a state of confusion, (N/Ireland, Wales, Scotland are to become smoke free areas whilst the latest proposals that England is to be partially smoke free) then perhaps the owners of the Bull should arbitrarily declare that it is to become smoke free immediately.
Ban smokers now!!!
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Posted by The Famous But Disillusioned with the ´óÏó´«Ã½ Eccles (U219998) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
But what about when my pooter want to pour forth clouds of acrid black smoke? Who's going to pay its fine, that's what I want to know.
Roy
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Posted by Bleak_Midwinter_Squirrel_Nutcase (U2248205) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
What I would like, is for someone to invent a non-toxic Gauloises/Gitanes joss-stick which I would burn reverently and harmlessly at home. $qxx
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Posted by Tinsnail_Racer (U1486682) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Reply to 1
No way - and this bit isn't in England anyway so ya boo sucks ect.
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Posted by Penny-has-it (U2257121) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Roy,
What about the black smoke when Freda burns the TA Bangers, would that infringe the no smoking rule ?
(or should the smokers take the opportunity to light up under such camoflage)
Freda's hotpot? Lady M's cauldrons? And what about the pile of old tyres that I always burn in here on Wednesdays?
Great minds, yorkie.
So whats the rule
food and or kids equals no smoking?
No food equals smoking?
Thats sounds OK but what about if you want crisps and peanuts etc
Cyberdrinks do not make you incapably drunk, boring, aggressive or fat; and never cause a hangover.
Cybersmokes keep flying insects away, scent the air lightly, naturally and pleasantly, and cause no health hazard whatsoever.
Keep on puffin' ...
Cyber-drinking makes me bring, I am told.
[mine's a black coffee, please]
er... that's boring, natch ...
Hmmm. I used to LOVE smoking and I'm sorry I can't do it any more (though I appreciate that my health has improved vastly as a result). The only kind of cigarettes I enjoy now are the cyber-kind that I smoke when I come to TB to drink cyber-Taittinger with my chums.
I've always been determined not to become one of those vehemently anti-smoking ex-smokers (worst kind). Worse still to be a vehemently anti-cyber-smoking ex-cyber-smoker.
So I'm in favour of a cyber-Bull where everyone can cyber-smoke as much as they cyber-want. It's about the only fun I get these days.
Cyber-Park Drive untipped, anyone? I've got some of those Black Sobranies with the Gold Tips too. And 20 San Moritz for the lay-deez.
Am x
PS God, I really feel like a fag now. (So to speak.)
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Posted by Paddy Redmond (U2270228) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Triple drambuie shandy, please,Sid; and chuck me a tin of snuff.
[Reply to 13]
I used to take snuff, too, Paddy. Fab. Bit heavy on the old laundry, though!
Weirdly, talking about snuff made me do that involuntary thing that all snuff-takers do - extending the thumb of choice (depending on whether you're left-handed or right-handed) to create the little dimple in which to deposit the snuff before inhalation.
All together now -
Sniff . . .
Snort . . .
Sigh . . .
Aaaaah . . . .
Chooo . . .
Am
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Posted by Gwenhwyfar (U1481921) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Am I alone in disliking the smell of strong perfume? I find it can spoil my pleasure in a meal almost as much as someone smoking nearby.
I have stopped visiting one of the only decent eateries on the lower stretches of the A470 because the owner/manager was given to drifting amiably around the tables in a thick cloud of (doubtless expensive) perfume.
I regularly give a lift to a friend who wears such strong scent that it makes me choke unless I open all the windows.
Perfume wearers, hear this:- Less is More! Gwen
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Posted by Lady Macbeϯh - not without mustard (U550479) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:52:50 GMT, In reply to: Aminam [
I'll have a Sobranie Cocktail if you have one, Aminam. Purple, please.
Come on smokers, gather round the (_) with me - no-one will ever work out what's smoke and what's fumes.
Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:53:09 GMT, In reply to: Queen Mael Bethad [
Sobranie Cocktail Cigarettes!! I used to save up to buy these in the olden days. They made me feel soooo sophisticated it was worth going without cigs for a week to be able to afford them at weekends.
....aahhh the delights of being a smoker - no longer one but I do miss it sometimes....
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Posted by Morty Vicar (U2258253) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
V. nice, agreed; but aren't (weren't?) Black Russian even sophisticateder? That was my youthful judgment, anyhow.
Remember Passing Cloud, milady? Weird oval shaped
cigs. If you're handing out the Sobranes I'll have a pink one, please.
Was Henry V a "Superking"?
Plenty of "Players" in Shakespeare.
Would the Bard have enjoyed a "Will's Whiff"?
etcetera.....
they might just be a pile of old tyres to you seany, but they happen to be the marsh gibbons playthings and sitting/hanging about from things. wait till he finds out that its you whose been burning them each week. you'll be for it.
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Posted by Lady Macbeϯh - not without mustard (U550479) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:16:15 GMT, In reply to: Morty Vicar [
Morty - there is a shop on Oxford Street which still sells both (exhorbitantly expensive, mind). Having re-acquainted myself, I prefer 'cocktail' nowadays.
What was that tobacconist shop round the back of Oxford Street called? {My younger brother went there once in his teenage pipe-smoking days (affected, yes, I know), and was doubled up with laughter at a tweedy chap asking the shop assistant for " ... Some tobacco for a dry, cool morning."}
Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:31:01 GMT, In reply to: Morty Vicar [
< aren't (weren't?) Black Russian even sophisticateder? >
My cig of choice was definitely the Sobranie Cocktail MV, preferably the bluey green ones.They were the sophisticatedest.
E.
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Posted by Polly Tunnel (U1530077) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Absolutely not Gwenhwyfar. I hate finding a heavy perfume wearer sitting next to me at the theatre or the cinema. Quite sickly.
Even Xmas we receive a round robin at work banning the application of perfumes in the Ladies as it can bring on asthma attacks apparently.
Greetings from kleines c. As the proposed smoking ban seems to be a hot topic in "The Bull", Irene, I have been canvassing opinion in the legendary "Nag's Head" on ´óÏó´«Ã½ Radio 3. Here is the c take.
As I am something of a liberal, I tend to follow the wise advice of John Stuart Mill, the great nineteenth century liberal philosopher. He once wrote the following "On Liberty", which I commend to everyone drinking at "The Bull" this evening:
" ... The liberty of the individual must be thus far limited; he must not make himself a nuisance to other people."
If the UK Cabinet is reading the Archers' message board tonight, the 'c' solution to the universal paradox of choice is that the principle of freedom, both on an individual and collective level, needs to be carefully weighed against the principle of duty. We have been weighed in the balance and all too often, found wanting. In Kantian terms, I ought, Irene, therefore I can.
In terms of smoking, well, smoking is more than a nuisance to other people. It kills us all. This argument favours a complete ban on ´óÏó´«Ã½ Radio 3. I hope that Tony and the rest of the cabinet take note.
Nevertheless, politics is the art of the possible, and as people are going to smoke, put them in sealed rooms. If they want to drink with 'c', they can stub out their fag and come out into the open. See you all in "The Bull", if you dare!
c
{My younger brother went there once in his teenage pipe-smoking days (affected, yes, I know), and was doubled up with laughter at a tweedy chap asking the shop assistant for " ... Some tobacco for a dry, cool morning."}
Your brother met Peebs all those years ago and didn't even know it.
good evening kleinsec. sorry but you've lost me , i'm afraid. i was merely making a silly remark about our mr. gibbon and his tyres, and you hit me with a quote from john stuart mill and a reference to kant! cripes. suspect you meant to reply to another poster, and just used the wrong name. i spot you mention politics being the art of the possible. dont tell that's a rab butler reference as well! i cant take all this eruditness on one post. as a newcomer , you are entitled to a free cyber drink in here, plus have another one on me. cheers irene
Why thank you, irene. I shall have whatever you're having. Cheers!
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Posted by Lady Macbeϯh - not without mustard (U550479) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:04:31 GMT, In reply to: RosieT [
Rosie, it's actually on Oxford Street - fairly near Selfridges IIRC and on the same side of the road.
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Posted by Penny-has-it (U2257121) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
But your'e supposed to take the tyres OFF the car first!
Thank God it's not wed ..... OOOOER
(BNAG)
Freda's hotpot? Lady M's cauldrons? And what about the pile of old tyres that I always burn in here on Wednesdays?
Ìý
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Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Roy,
What about the black smoke when Freda burns the TA Bangers, would that infringe the no smoking rule ?
(or should the smokers take the opportunity to light up under such camoflage)Ìý
Crouching Smoker,Hidden Cigarette.
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Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
What was that tobacconist shop round the back of Oxford Street called? {My younger brother went there once in his teenage pipe-smoking days (affected, yes, I know), and was doubled up with laughter at a tweedy chap asking the shop assistant for " ... Some tobacco for a dry, cool morning."}Ìý
Rosie,that's wonderful.Are you sure he wasn't beamed back into a Python sketch?
Basia
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Posted by Bear in the Bull (U2265029) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
It would have to have some kind of "smoke room" - either out back or upstairs, to allow for visits from Lilian, Joe, Ed(?), Jazzer, Brian, ...
Bear
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Posted by Polly Tunnel (U1530077) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
What I don't understand about all this "Shall we/shan't we ban smoking in all/some public places debate is this. Why, given the looming crisis in pensions funding and the spiralling costs of proper accommodation for the elderly and infirm , why do the Government actually want us to live longer anyway. I don't find the arguement citing the cost to the NHS of smoking related diseases very convincing as it sort of presumes that if you don't smoke you'll never get ill or go into hospital. Then there's the loss of tax if all smokers stopped.
Surely for the long term economic health of the country the Government should be encouraging not discouraging smoking. Smoking in pubs should be compulsory. Non-smokers could obviously choose to stay at home if they do not want to contribute to the country's economic wellbeing.
well if you dont mind creme de menthe frappe, heres a pint of it for you, kleinesc.
irene
just kidding, its a large dry white wine really!
Creme de menthe is pretty horrid and Baileys is disgusting, but if you mix them in equal quantities you get a taste sensation to rival Peter Kaye's dad's garlic bread.
'garlic bread?' i've seen a couple of people with that on their tshirts. makes me hoot. hello seany.
What I don't understand about all this "Shall we/shan't we ban smoking in all/some public places debate is this. Why, given the looming crisis in pensions funding and the spiralling costs of proper accommodation for the elderly and infirm , why do the Government actually want us to live longer anyway. I don't find the argument citing the cost to the NHS of smoking related diseases very convincing as it sort of presumes that if you don't smoke you'll never get ill or go into hospital. Then there's the loss of tax if all smokers stopped.
Surely for the long term economic health of the country the Government should be encouraging not discouraging smoking. Smoking in pubs should be compulsory. Non-smokers could obviously choose to stay at home if they do not want to contribute to the country's economic well being.Ìý
YES! according to today's papers smokers cost the NHS 1 billion squid and collect 10 billion squid in taxes.
NUFF said...and when I can no longer go to a pub and buy a glass of wine for 2.50 (175ml) & have a fag in the designated area, I will stay at home and buy a whole bottle (750ml) from
l!dles for 2.99 and they will loose the revenue on the booze tax as well.
I already go to Belgium to buy my fags therefor depriving the odious taxman from collecting that bounty
Do people who suffer from sports injuries, ie b0ggered knees pay a premium to be treated, do car drivers pay for killing themselves? Is a bill sent to the silly sods that get stuck up a mountain side, or half drowned in an ignorance of tides?
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Hi irene.It's lovely to see you here.Did you notice I got modded this morning for being very naughty and taking your name in vain?
no!!! what on earth did you say?
I'll take the chardonnay too, irene. Your good health!
c
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Posted by Lady Macbeϯh - not without mustard (U550479) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:06:57 GMT, In reply to: EllKaye [
according to
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Yup - so, how much is that on your taxes, then oh self-righteous ones?
'Ere, LK - have one of mine. Any colour preference?
NOTE: No-one with a balanced view was harmed in the making of this post.
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Posted by Marmalade Drizzle (U2239190) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Hello irene
Hello SeaN.
This is the fourth time I've tried to post today so I hope this finds you!!
marms
I'd worked out a way of putting entirely spurious quotes in those little boxes, attributing them to someone else and incorporating them into a message I'd posted.
Making sense so far?
One of the quotes was supposedly from you swearing off Ivor Novello forever in favour of Cradle of Filth.
I don't think it was that one that got me modded though.
you cheeky pup. acksherly i've just found the relevant thread and seen what you were up to. blimey, i think i might have fainted if i'd seen that. who the bleeping hell are 'cradle of filth' seconds thoughs, dont tell me. off to add a post to that thread now ref copyright!
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Posted by Lady Macbeϯh - not without mustard (U550479) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:16:57 GMT, In reply to: irene [
A beat combo popular with a certain set of young people I belive, m'lud
coo ee marms, i was wonderig where you were. the server, or whatever you call this new thing, has been playing up today. (hows my course in 'bluff you way through computery type terms' doing? did isound plausible?
But not this one.
And hello, Marms.It's good to see you too.
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Posted by Marmalade Drizzle (U2239190) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Oh irene.... I'm so glad to see a familiar typeface in amongst all this 'ere gubbins!
You seem to be doing much better than I!! It took me 25minutes to find someone i knew in a subject i could contribute to. Then the bloomin' server* lost my message and my turn had finished on the computor. Most irritating!
marms
*I don't know why they call it a server**? It doesn't seem to serve anything at all - it's more like a dictator!
**Unless it is to serve one right for wasting so much time on message boards?
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Posted by Marmalade Drizzle (U2239190) on Wednesday, 26th October 2005
Oh my bset finred....... {{{sob}}}
How lovely to speak to you!
marms
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