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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by Petrovic (U2381632) on Monday, 1st October 2012
Before we were so rudely interrupted (AHEM):
Heiner Goebbels: Eislermaterial
This isn't nearly as scary as it looks, it's a selection of theatre songs by Hans Eisler (1930s) and has actual tunes.
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Message 2
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Monday, 1st October 2012
Thanks for starting the new thread.
Tom Waits – Bad As Me
Frank Sinatra – When You Lover Has Gone
Philip Glass – Music in Twelve Parts: Parts 1 & 2
Brian Eno & Harold Budd – Ambient 2: The Plateaux of Mirror
Brian Eno & Harold Budd – The Pearl
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Message 3
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Monday, 1st October 2012
Worraloada cobblers. I'm well miffed. Listening to Rupert Everett reading his diaries, bloody hilraious.
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Message 4
Posted by BorchesterBolshevik (U13672124) on Monday, 1st October 2012
What happened there? Why was an innocuous thread about records deemed a threat when half the people in here think maths teachers are entitled to take their pick of any fifteen year olds in their care?
Skinhead- Prince Far I
Biff Bang Pow- The Creation
Party pt1- Maceo and The Macks
Nah Lef Africa- Mungo’s HiFi
Kirtan for Krishna- Relaxace
Melancholy Man- The Wake
The Worlds Largest Crucifix- Blanche
I Tried- Mull Historical Society
Don’t Get your Panties In a Bunch- Ursula 1000
Rubberband- Gonjasufi
Run Riot- Midnight Lab Band
Plug Myself In (Monty’s Full Up Pompei Mix)- DOSE and Mark E Smith
Extraordinary Woman- Psychedelic Aliens
VP Blues- Eddie Palmieri with Harlem River Drive
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Message 5
Posted by The Giddy Kipper (U10918464) on Monday, 1st October 2012
>>when half the people in here think maths teachers are entitled to take their pick of any fifteen year olds in their care?<<
I blame Sting....( for most of the evil in the world)
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Message 6
Posted by Sea Nymph (U1474682) on Monday, 1st October 2012
What happened there? ´óÏó´«Ã½ witch hunt against one of the contributors.
He'll be back.Might already be. -
Message 7
Posted by BorchesterBolshevik (U13672124) on Monday, 1st October 2012
Oh right, I did wonder if that might be the case. As Giddy Kipper suggests they'd be better off directing their energy into a mighty effort to delete all links and references to Sting from the internet.
Anyway, my most alarming discovery of the day was this-
Gary Glitter rapping on Jim'll Fixit. So very wrong in so many ways. -
Message 8
Posted by Petrovic (U2381632) on Monday, 1st October 2012
Colleague's just playing Warm Leatherette (because it's on a Drowned in Sound playlist apparently).
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Message 9
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Monday, 1st October 2012
I blame Sting....( for most of the evil in the world)Ìý
I agree.
"You must like him Basia, he's British" -
Message 10
Posted by Tinsnail_Racer (U1486682) on Monday, 1st October 2012
"You must like him Basia, he's British"
...not necessarily....
I don't like me, and I'm possibly British... -
Message 11
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
But surely, Basia, the song 'Englishman in New York' really speaks to the core of your being.
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Message 12
Posted by Sea Nymph (U1474682) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
Got an email alert for the Ultrasound album launch and a link to download a song.Didn't bother with that because it just looked like a way to hoover up contact details, but found the song on youtube.
So here's Ultrasound then
And now
I know everybody gets three songs before I firm up my opinion, but it doesn't sound promising.Whatever happened to the swirling genius chaos of it all? -
Message 13
Posted by BorchesterBolshevik (U13672124) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
Not a lot of difference there. A shift from dull but slightly noisy generic indie to dull but slighly jangly generic indie. To be fair I'd say the same about most later indie bands. I think indie might be my genre Dylan.
Listening to Kid Koala again and have now found a link -
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Message 14
Posted by Mrs Croft (U13706992) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
But surely, Basia, the song 'Englishman in New York' really speaks to the core of your being.
'Ö' Ìý I notice they played this on Dr Who to underline the Alien in NY theme. Can't say it really added to my enjoyment of the programme, but then I was distracted by the thought of an H and H bagel.
Phantom Limb - The Pines
I believe they are on tour with Rodriguez, who were mentioned up thread. Well, possibly not up thread, but on a parallel thread also known as the 14th playlist. It's a spacey-wacey timey-wimey thing -
Message 15
Posted by Go away historians of the future (U1484964) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
So, Keri got the Teatime Theme Time spot on yesterday's Radcliffe & Maconie show, did he?
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Message 16
Posted by Sir Digby (U4549323) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
Blimey, guess he's been busted again then, what a palaver...
Anyway, i'm lucky enough to be in Rhodes this week, listening so far-
Silvery- Orders
The Breeders- Too Alive
Crass- Berketex Bride
The Clash- Revolution Rock
Yeah Yeah Yeahs- Maps
Cardiacs- Piffol One Time
Bonzos-Piggy Bank Love
High Tide- Futilists Lament
Municipal Waste- Chemically Altered
Babes In Toyland- Mad Pilot
Radiohead- Backdrifts
Cham- Ghetto Story
Elastica-Annie
Desmond Dekker-You Can Get It
Rammstein- Moskau
The Meteors-I Don't Worry About It
Mbeat- Morning Will Come
Crass- Major General Despair
King Tubby- Beware Of God
Girls At Our Best- Fast Boyfriends
Yeah Yeah Yeahs- Date With The Night
Hold Steady- Charlemagne In Sweatpants
Laura Marling- Ghosts
The Cramps- Garbageman
Siouxsie and the Banshees- Carcass
Plaid Fetina- Swallow Me Alive
Beefheart- The Clouds Are Full Of Wine
Delta 5- Journey
Rsdiohead- A Wolf At The Door
Deep Turtle-Valz Hot Mambo
Radiohead- Paranoid Android
Tru Playaz- 123 Go
Metallica- Phantom Lord
Wire-12XU
ATV- Good Times
GNU- Terra Nova
Cardiacs- Foundling
Hanson Brothers- No Emotion
Logistics- Salvation
Flux of Pink Indians- Myxomatosis
Digital Mystikz- Haunted
Delta 5- Telephone
Manu Chao- Intro
Rammstein- Engel
Nick Cave- The Carnival Is Over
Hold Steady- Cattle and the Creeping Things
The Challengers- water Country
MDC- Dick For Brains
Culture- Two Sevens Clash
Wu Tang Clan- Ain't Nothing to F Wit
Amebix- The Moor
Stranglers- Toiler On The Sea
Arctic Monkeys- Fake Tales Of San Francisco
David Bowie-Soul Love
Brian Eno- Back In Judy'Jungle
Birthday Party- Mutiny In Heaven
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Message 17
Posted by Mr_Edwards (U3815709) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
The MX 80 Sound - Civilized/Demeyes
The MX 80 Sound - Kid Stuff
The MX 80 Sound - Fascination
Lale Anderson - Lilli Marleen
Laibach - Sympathy for the Devil (8 versions) -
Message 18
Posted by Petrovic (U2381632) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
You lucky so-and-so, Digs. (Did you cut and paste that list?!)
No music yet, boss in office... -
Message 19
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
More brain-soothing today.
Brian Eno – Ambient 1: Music for airports
Brian Eno – Ambient 4: On land
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Message 20
Posted by Sir Digby (U4549323) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
Nope, beach bar with WiFi, went the extra mile and went through my iPod shuffle history and wrote it all out, it's great having nothing better to do with my time..
Anyway so far i'm realising how much I like Radiohead, been quite a surprise, can't manage a whole album, but they really stand out as the odd track on shuffle. -
Message 21
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
But surely, Basia, the song 'Englishman in New York' really speaks to the core of your beingÌý
You're funny, as they say around H&H bagels.
(See what I did there?)
I listened to Gideon Coe's show yesterday afternoon and was surprised I kept wanting to know who he was playing among some more pedestrian but ok tracks.
My fave discovery is Rangda, and sadly they're just a weirdo bear-like supergroup, so am unlikely to see them any time soon dahn t'Mercury Lounge.
whose members are uber-busy with all their other side projects. Great track called Night Porter.
Also
The Sinister Cleaners - Longing for Next Year
Some kid called Jake Bugg from Nottm with a very disturbing US accent when he sings and a perfectly acceptable deadpan, life-draining Nottm accent when talking.
I do love 6 Music, and they deserve their accolades. One thing that gets on my wick though...why is it presumed that for 'nwes', listeners only care about whether Bob Dylan has a cold or not, and whether next year's Glastonbury will have to worry about drainage in the lower filed? It's sort of insulting. -
Message 22
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
Nice list Digs, glad you're having a good time, with time enough on your hands to do that. Every time I'm in here, I know what it is I ought to be doing otherwise....
Anyway so far i'm realising how much I like Radiohead, been quite a surprise, can't manage a whole album, but they really stand out as the odd track on shuffleÌý
You see....here we go. This happens to me a lot. I'll hear some great guitar and want to know what I'm listening to and then Yorke's whine kicks in and I run. I can only compare my reaction to his voice to that of Greenjewel's to Morrissey's. I know they're great/clever/funny/brilliant/experimental etc etc, but...but but...
I keep thinking one day I'll be ok, but I cannot get past his voice; it makes me want to punch him. Shame. -
Message 23
Posted by Tinsnail_Racer (U1486682) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
The continuing list of things that I never new were covers....
Not Pixies! They sampled the crash from the spring reverb, apparently.
There's a lot of silence at the end, incidentally. -
Message 24
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
Good list Tins.
Am I the only one here who can't stand Mumford & Sons? They're being interviewed on Front Row.
I kept hearing that stupid song on a photographer's playlist, and now I know who it is, I know to avoid. They irritate me immensely. They were asked if they read the scathing reviews about them, as they get as much critical flak as praise, and one of them said they don't, because a bad review is just one's person's opinion and that the internet is a breading ground of ...opinions. Genius.
Found my ipodnick, so loading up again.
Bx -
Message 25
Posted by Tinsnail_Racer (U1486682) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
No, you're not the only one! It's the lack of variety, I think - you know exactly when the key change is going to happen, and so on...
The same applies to Elbow, except that they're less lively.
I've been delving further into the fuzzy world of 1960s instrumentals.
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Message 26
Posted by Go away historians of the future (U1484964) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
>> Am I the only one here who can't stand Mumford & Sons? <<
They always sound a bit contrived to me, like they read about the early Pogues and thought it was a good idea. -
Message 27
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
They sound like Coldplay in their interview. Except that they didn't walk out of it like Martin did.
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Message 28
Posted by Petrovic (U2381632) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
Ha, even Simon Mayo (on Kermode+Mayo from Friday)* said, 'Mumford and Sons have new album out which sounds exactly the same as the last one'. And he likes them.
Hi Bash, glad you've found Gideon Coe: he does sometimes play a lot of whiny dross, but every so often he has a great evening and I come out with a new listening list.
*on the podcast, in the wittery bit at the end, Highly recommended this time, as the French engineer gets dragged into the conversation and shows up the both of them. -
Message 29
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
Am I the only one here who can't stand Mumford & Sons?Ìý One of far too many versions these days of polite little boys making polite little music. The sort of thing Later... is stuffed with. Hot Chip, Vampire Weekend, the one with four initials (can't even remember their name, they were so dull). No spirit, no guts in it at all.
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Message 30
Posted by BorchesterBolshevik (U13672124) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
Quite right Mr Badger. I hate Later with a vengeance. It is as if somebody had a meeting where assorted experts agreed that music lovers who were thick enough to expect a sliver of their license fee to be spent on intelligent, challenging or even just a bit different music broadcasting should be punished. Severely. It draws you in. Somebody must be alright, one of the new bands maybe? Not a chance fool, the new ones are worse then the old ones, trading off former glories is still better than being a low grade copyist. Utter rubbish week in, week out. And Holland's shirts and velvet collars make it all even worse. He should be so ashamed that he never leaves his stately home again. When it comes to talent spotting Jools and his team couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo. Now I'm off to listen to Angry by The Bug- They gonna burn in a fire!
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Message 31
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
I don't believe it! Just been watching a fillum on DVD (not a bad one, a Chinese film about violin prodigies, a bit sentimental but none too bad for that). It's just finished, TV signal came back on, ´óÏó´«Ã½ ........ Later ......... and playing? Mumford and Sons! Aaaargh!
Music that your auntie would enjoy. That's what most young people's music (that gets any coverage) seems to be these days. Generation Y. Pah. All positive, pragmatic - what will sell rather than what actually means anything. A (polite) pox on them.
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Message 32
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
And now an East London collective fronted by a chubby Marc Almond/Dave Vanian/David Gahan (can't make up my mind) who thinks he's Macy Gray. Time to turn off and put some music of my choice on.
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Message 33
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
the one with four initials (can't even remember their name, they were so dull)Ìý
Ugh, I can, unforch, they get played a lot on set when someone who wants guitars (ie me) needs to be placated.
MGMT. Load of silly brownstone boys who think they just invented taking drugs. With headbands.
Oh well, another afternoon at home listening to Coe, not bad again.
(The wonderful) Steve Mason - (the beautiful) All Come Down
I miss the Beta Band, a lot. -
Message 34
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
That's the one. I was going to say MDMA, but they have the opposite effect.
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Message 35
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
Mason - All Come Down
And for old time's sake - Beta Band - Dry the Rain -
Message 36
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
Oops, here's the wonderful Dry the Rain. Reminds me of going across and up to Glasgow for my first ever visit, aaaah....God, what a great band.
Well quite Skunky... -
Message 37
Posted by Tinsnail_Racer (U1486682) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012
Glasgow's still a good place for bands. There's a fair amount of Glavegas-ness, which is regrettable, but plenty with a bit of fire too.
I always liked this, might've posted a link before but hey ho.... (Popup)
And Franz Ferdinand, who I like (mostly)....and can still be encountered whilst out and about in the dear green place.
That reminds me, I've a gig to sort out at the Note. -
Message 38
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Wednesday, 3rd October 2012
Oh. My. God. I see what you mean BB, it's far, far worse than I remember. There wasn't a single moment in the latest epi that was worth watching and what's up with that hideous band Savages? Some A&R guy's really pleased with himself isn't he? Jesus. Does the world really need KD Lang fronting a Siouxsie soundalike band who desperately wish they'd been born a few decades earlier in Berlin and called themselves Malaria. Thank God I could fast forward this shower.
And Mumford are Coldplay with a banjo. -
Message 39
Posted by Sea Nymph (U1474682) on Wednesday, 3rd October 2012
trading off former glories is still better than being a low grade copyist.Ìý
Speaking of which is it true the Smiths are playing Glastonbury? I married their biggest fan and she's horrified.I reckon Morrissey will get a hangnail and pull out last minute -
Message 40
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Wednesday, 3rd October 2012
is it true the Smiths are playing Glastonbury?Ìý
No, it's not true. It was a typo.
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Message 41
Posted by Go away historians of the future (U1484964) on Wednesday, 3rd October 2012
>> polite little boys making polite little music. <<
There is an antidote, Ping.
The Jim Jones Revue. Hammond organ and feedback - what more do you need?
Gave up on Later when I realised it was like watching Radio 2. -
Message 42
Posted by Tinsnail_Racer (U1486682) on Wednesday, 3rd October 2012
< Coldplay with a banjo >
Stolen.....!
Milliband wittering on and trying to pretend that he cares (radio 4). -
Message 43
Posted by BorchesterBolshevik (U13672124) on Wednesday, 3rd October 2012
Thanks loot, that did the trick. Now listening to a freebie by Wolf + Lamb vs Soul Clap.
You can get it here-
Quite good for a gentle bit of morning shuffling about to. -
Message 44
Posted by Sea Nymph (U1474682) on Wednesday, 3rd October 2012
is it true the Smiths are playing Glastonbury?Ìý
No, it's not true. It was a typo.
Ìý Are you sure the one on the left in that pic isn't himself? 'Cos the other one's definitely Polly Harvey from her last tour. -
Message 45
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Wednesday, 3rd October 2012
I've come to the conclusion that Later... is the Mojo magazine of broadcasting - hankering after the days when music really meant something. It always seems to be looking backward to some bygone era. No doubt they'd have the Stones, Led Zep and Crazy Horse on every week if they could afford them. Perhaps they should ditch Jools Holland and bring in Whispering Bob instead. Then once a year they plop Dizzee Rascal rather awkwardly into the mix to seem up with it.
Bizarrely the Grauniad is running a poll on who was the best performer on Later. Last week's results were:
17% Natalie Duncan
25% Public Image Ltd
16% The xx
19% The Beach Boys
22% Muse
So that's three bands of days gone by, one aural wallpaper and I can't comment on Natalie Duncan as I don't know her. This week it's:
Savages
Lisa Marie Presley
Bobby Womack
Neil Sedaka
Rudimental
Mumford & Sons.
Something tells me that Womack was miles ahead, even though he's about 104.
Anyway...
To show how hip and happening I am, I'm listening to music from the 1930s this morning.
1. We'll Make Hay While The Sun Shines – Billy Merrin (v: Sam Browne)
2. Riptide – Lew Stone (v: al Bowlly)
3. Indian Love Call – Maurice Winnick (v: Sam Costa)
4. How's Chances – Henry Hall & the ´óÏó´«Ã½ DO (v: Dan Donovan)
5. The Echo Of A Song – Roy Fox (v: Al Bowlly)
6. Okay Toots – Harry Roy
7. Painting The Clouds With Sunshine – Jack Hylton (v: Sam Browne)
8. Serenade In The Night – Primo Scala
9. My Woman – Lew Stone (v: Al Bowlly)
10. I've Found The Right Girl – Jack Jackson
11. On The Other Side Of The Hill – Roy Fox (v: Denny Dennis)
12. Anything Goes – Lew Stone (v: The Radio Three)
13. Hands Across The Table – Henry Hall & the ´óÏó´«Ã½ DO (v: Dan Donovan)
14. You Sweet So And So – Debroy Somers (v: Jack Buchanan)
15. The Moon Got In My Eyes – Carroll Gibbons & the SHO (v: Anne Lenner)
16. In The Middle Of A Kiss – Connie Boswell
17. March Winds And April Showers – Teddy Joyce (v: Eric Whitley)
18. Says My Heart – Brian Lawrance
19. Roll Along Covered Wagon – Harry Roy
20. Whistling In The Dark – Ambrose (v: Sam Browne)
21. I Like To Go Back In The Evening – Jack Jackson (v: Fred Latham)
22. In The Dark – Roy Fox (v: Denny Dennis)
23. The Glory Of Love – Lew Stone
24. Pennies From Heaven – Louis Levy
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Message 46
Posted by BorchesterBolshevik (U13672124) on Wednesday, 3rd October 2012
I hope you're wearing a nice flat hat and a brown scarf as part of this new trend for Jarrow March chic. It's reached the world of film too, there are rumours that Fergie from the Black Eyed Peas is soon to star in a bio-pic of Red Ellen Wilkinson.
I'd like to hear In The Dark by Roy Fox vs Denny Dennis, sounds like it could have a very early dancehall vibe going on. Having denounced Later in no uncertain terms I did of course watch it and here is a brief review:
Savages- fully concurring with Basia's savaging from earlier on.
Lisa Marie Presley- Can't sing but obviously has backers who hope that the family name combined with some sub-alt country twanging will earn a few bob. I'd rather have watched a video of her Dad's corpse.
Bobby Womack: Pick of the bunch but slightly marred* by Damon Albarn tinkling the ivories while some other bloke tried to put Bobby off by making irritating little noises that didn't connect with the other music being played.
* this should read completely ruined.
Neil Sedaka: Like a ruddy cheeked uncle turning up uninvited, in his shorts, at a scout camp. Full of enthusiasm but entirely inappropriate.
Rudimental: Please take Mr Badger's comments and then sprinkle with added vitriol. There should be a special rest home called Sigue Sigue Sputnik Manor for bands who believe that indiscriminately heaping one old style on top of another constitutes originality.
Mumford & Sons: If Basia did pinch the Coldplay with a banjo idea then she did so wisely. The question now is where to put the banjo? I have an idea and may run a poll in the Guardian to see if people agree. -
Message 47
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Wednesday, 3rd October 2012
Excellent review, Bolshers, and I'm glad I switched off when I did.
I'm afraid the v in my listing stands for 'vocal by' rather than 'versus', but a mash-up would no doubt be worth a listen.
Schubert – String Quintet in C
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Message 48
Posted by Petrovic (U2381632) on Wednesday, 3rd October 2012
Thanks BB, that final banjo-related suggestion has cheered up my day considerably.
Not to be outdone by Leaps, here's some Czech 1930s popular music - by Jaroslav Ježek [Ježek means 'hedgehog'. I love Czech surnames] who spent the first half of his sadly short career writing serious atonal music which noone listened to, and the second making up for it by writing wildly popular (at least locally) rags like Bugatti Step
and blues (in Czech) like this one, Tmavomodry Svět (=Dark Blue World, mods; he was nearly blind):
(this recording sounds as if it was made ion the 30s) -
Message 49
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Wednesday, 3rd October 2012
Here's one for Petrovic:
Mezinárodnà Sdruženà pro Novou Akustickou Hudbu – Ornament
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Message 50
Posted by Mr_Edwards (U3815709) on Wednesday, 3rd October 2012
By the way Petrovic, there IS a flyer and it can be found by googling "Sweet Smelling Swampies and Friends"
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