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Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Monday, 18th February 2013
If not why not.........
If you only use sidelights and one of them is not working should you get a BIGGER fine as you could have checked and used your heads.......
Should cyclists have their bikes taken and crushed, like non insured cars, if they don't use lights when it's dark.
Should pedestrians who are not carrying a light and dressed in dark clothes, be legally allowed to be run over by not light using cyclists and side lighted car drivers?
There are some dark questions here.
Oh go on then I'll say it.
Illuminate me................damn it run me over too......
There is no dark side of the moon. It's all dark.
should pedestrians that walk about with their gaze firmly fixed on the screns of their dumbphones with complete disregard for other people and/or trafic have their phones or their heads crushed?
, in reply to message 1.
Posted by sirblunderdog (U14202514) on Monday, 18th February 2013
I think I know what you're getting at.
In Scandinavia, during the war in Vietnam, protesters shone their headlights (dipped) on a Wednesday.
The accident figures dropped on Wednesdays and it then became law in Scandinavia to drive with dipped headlights.
An excellent idea for this septic isle.
I drive a Volvo
There is no dark side of the moon. It's all dark. Â
Heh send it all the way there and still no headlights.......
should pedestrians that walk about with their gaze firmly fixed on the screns of their dumbphones with complete disregard for other people and/or trafic have their phones or their heads crushed?Â
When should a driver in the UK use their headlights?
When should a cyclist use lights?
When should a pedestrian?
, in reply to message 8.
Posted by La Min gibbon swinging strumpet draped in black (U12534030) on Monday, 18th February 2013
What about motorcyclists?
Aren't they advised to have them on all the time?
Are we talking seeing or being seen?
Volvo here too, lights alwaya on, other car, they go on when visibility is poor, light levels low etc.
I would never, ever, ever ride a bike in the dark with no lights, they terrify the living poo out of me when I encounter them whilst driving.
Any help?
on alternate Shrove Tuesdays
should pedestrians that walk about with their gaze firmly fixed on the screns of their dumbphones with complete disregard for other people and/or trafic have their phones or their heads crushed?Â
I'll answer that further, the easiest person to run over is a headphone wearer or someone on the phone.
I run around Leeds a lot, the students are like lemmings in the university areas.
They don't see "green or red men", will follow any other idiot going in their general direction, rightly or wrongly.
Even better when it's dark and you don't have your headlights on,mwahaha
other car, they go on when visibility is poor, light levels low etc.Â
Visibility notwithstanding. Are use of lights affected by speed limits on a road?
, in reply to message 5.
Posted by sirblunderdog (U14202514) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Went to the pub this afternoon and spoke to someone. He put his hand in his pocket and pulled out an illuminated dipstick.
Why did I bother?
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Posted by La Min gibbon swinging strumpet draped in black (U12534030) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Nope, I put them on when I notice that I can see other cars with them on better than ones without.
Still don't really know where you are going with this but have a few more minutes to play.
Why did I bother?Â
You did because you knew.........your bulb was on full power..........
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I'm just seeing who knows what they should actually be doing and when.
It came as a surprise to me when I redigested the latest highway code.........
I wanted to see if others were in the same boat.........
, in reply to message 16.
Posted by La Min gibbon swinging strumpet draped in black (U12534030) on Monday, 18th February 2013
sfx dashing off to read highway code...
, in reply to message 15.
Posted by Pan Mustardland is where the heart is Shoshana (U14836935) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Do you suffer from flash blindness because people use headlights/ full beam in full daylight, or foglights even if the visibility is for hundreds of yards?
Do you suffer from flash blindness because people use headlights/ full beam in full daylight, or foglights even if the visibility is for hundreds of yards?Â
Flash blindness. Low sun during winter has same effect, should cars be using lights when the sun is low,or glaring, to counteract this, or to be seen better.
, in reply to message 19.
Posted by Pan Mustardland is where the heart is Shoshana (U14836935) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Assuming there is any sun...
, in reply to message 14.
Posted by Rwth of the Cornovii (U2570790) on Monday, 18th February 2013
I used to leave them on in the summer and get a flat battery for my pains. Since I live in a built up area, I do what my Son in Law suggested and put mine on when the street lights go on - or any time when it is darker than it should be pending rain, snow or similar and on the motorway. When windscreen wipers are on etc. Also if I drive off in the dark and someone flashes their lights at me.
I'm not infallible, and sometimes forget, but if I can't see properly, I put them on. My alternator was faulty and kept recharging more than it should and I drove with headlights dipped all the time until one day after I had it replaced I forgot to turn them off and found myself with a dead battery again.
, in reply to message 21.
Posted by Pan Mustardland is where the heart is Shoshana (U14836935) on Monday, 18th February 2013
I tend to use sidelights all the time, and headlights only if it is dark/v rainy or sumthin.
Twilight is tricky as it's easy to be dazzled - so I stick to sidelights to say 'here I am' as headlights for night driving - to see where you're going is over the top when the light is still good (and I think the Highway code mentions something about half an hour after sunset being the lights on trigger)
, in reply to message 22.
Posted by Rwth of the Cornovii (U2570790) on Monday, 18th February 2013
I'd say that when street lighting comes on it's lighting up time, therefore dipped headlights need to go on. In the countryside, probably when more oncoming traffic seems to have lights than not especially buses and emergency services vehicles. If one checks tyre pressures every week, why not sunrise and sunset? I don't think I ever use my sidelights. It always seems to me to be either too light or inadequate lighting for the conditions.
It's dark, night time, . No fog or rain, visibility Ok. You are driving from somewhere north of Sheffield to somewhere south of Watford in a car.
No one cares what kind of car it is, or what colour, before you ask, and yes it's road legal plenty of fuel etc........and you are on a road not a pavement etc.......(The lengths we have to go to and still one of you just will.......lol)
a) Do you use your headlights in a 30 MPH speed limit areas.
b) Do you use your headlights in a 40 MPH speed limit areas.
c) Do you use your headlights in a 50 MPH speed limit areas.
d) Do you use your headlights in a 60 MPH speed limit areas.
e) Do you use your headlights in a 70 MPH speed limit areas.
f) All.
g) None.
h) What are headlights?
, in reply to message 24.
Posted by Lady Candice (U10892790) on Monday, 18th February 2013
I hate dipping, but I have to on a dark country road.
Bad grandma.
send [The Lunar Rover] all the way there and still no headlights An automatic MoT failure.
What about motorcyclists?
Aren't they advised to have them on all the time?Â
My last two motorcycles have lacked an 'off' switch for the headlight. The latest bikes ape the car fashion of being adorned with LED 'driving lights'
, in reply to message 1.
Posted by BrightYangThing (U14627705) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Great topic Eggon.
I use dipped headlights much of the time, except brilliant sunshine. I use my light s at least as much to be seen as to see. I also check them once a week all round - the percentage of faulty lit cars I estimate at between 25 - 30%.
For the avoidance of doubt, for vehicles that are not Volvo's and are not equipped with those new Daylight Running Lights that is usually the 2nd position (gawd knows why it isn't the first).
Side lights are pointless on a moving vehicle (they are actually called 'Parking lights' which should give a bit of a clue). If you need lights on (and you need them on in dull, damp conditions, rain, as daylight fades and sun up, in tunnels and multi storey car parks, on roads with dense tree cover as well as of course at night (which is why I say most of the time).
Anyway, that's how I read it. I get mild road rage at people whose vehicles re inadequately lit.
, in reply to message 29.
Posted by Lady Candice (U10892790) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Watership Down.
Great topic Eggon.
I use dipped headlights much of the time, except brilliant sunshine. I use my light s at least as much to be seen as to see. I also check them once a week all round - the percentage of faulty lit cars I estimate at between 25 - 30%.
For the avoidance of doubt, for vehicles that are not Volvo's and are not equipped with those new Daylight Running Lights that is usually the 2nd position (gawd knows why it isn't the first).
Side lights are pointless on a moving vehicle (they are actually called 'Parking lights' which should give a bit of a clue). If you need lights on (and you need them on in dull, damp conditions, rain, as daylight fades and sun up, in tunnels and multi storey car parks, on roads with dense tree cover as well as of course at night (which is why I say most of the time).
Anyway, that's how I read it. I get mild road rage at people whose vehicles re inadequately lit. Â
My Golf is equipped with DRL so those are on all the time. Once the light level drops to a certain point those no longer come on, so I switch to headlights then.
I also use headlights whenever my wipers are on - which, apart from being something I would do anyway, is actually the law in the state where I live.
The law here also specifically states that side lights are /not/ to be used as a substitute at any time when headlights are required
, in reply to message 31.
Posted by Pan Mustardland is where the heart is Shoshana (U14836935) on Tuesday, 19th February 2013
On the way home this evening, the car in front put his fog lights on even though it was a bit misty but visibility was excellent. I put my front fog lights on, to follow his suit, and he soon turned his off - I think he got the point.
Opps sorry I forgot about this thread, been busy busy busy packing bags ready for moving away after the lights are turned off here.
Effectively, headlights are required (must be used) on any road at night with a speed limit over 30MPH or more.
and
You should also
use dipped headlights at night in built-up areas and in dull daytime weather, to ensure that you can be seen
Now how many drivers do you see not following those.
Taxi drivers local to me especially don't even know what headlights are, I wonder if they think they are saving fuel by not using them, or just perhaps covering up the fact that one of them at least is probably not working (another topic, I digress).
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