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Posted by FowPah (U1746998) on Thursday, 21st February 2013
At Agincourt Friday, 25 October (25th October same day as the charge of the light brigade) 1415.
The English were led by Henry V.
Sadly the modern day Archers are about to lose their battle.
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
blimey you're brave, fohwpah. expect arrows of outrageous posters winging your way, telling you the archers were in no way english, but all welsh. or cornish. or...
blimey you're brave, fohwpah. expect arrows of outrageous posters winging your way, telling you the archers were in no way english, but all welsh. or cornish. or...Ìý Fighting for England from Wales,Cornwall etc.Am I ok now?
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Posted by TorquilOfKiloran (U2806494) on Thursday, 21st February 2013
At Agincourt Friday, 25 October (25th October same day as the charge of the light brigade) 1415.
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I hate to kick a man when he's down, but, a pedant might add that in Great Britain we changed from the Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar in 1752. So, although those 2 events have the same date, the latter was not exactly 439 years after the first.
Torquil
Pedantry is ok in small doses.
blimey you're brave, fohwpah. expect arrows of outrageous posters winging your way, telling you the archers were in no way english, but all welsh. or cornish. or...Ìý Fighting for England from Wales,Cornwall etc.Am I ok now?Ìý Some of them were English... but they weren't fighting for England. They were fighting for the claim of the King of England to the Throne of France. The distinction becomes starker when we think of Richard I who never bothered to come to England at all during his reign (despite the scene at the end of various Robin Hood films).
Most of them came from TreTower near Brecon iirc. They certainly weren't fighting just for England.
They would have fought for anyone for money.
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Posted by maggiechow- chained to the railings (U6630370) on Thursday, 21st February 2013
I believe he spent 9 months in the country trying to raise some dosh. He never brought Berengaria with him, though.
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Posted by Jack_Wilkinson (U4831218) on Thursday, 21st February 2013
Welsh Labour's Celtic cousins stuff, could backfire big time!! Llafur takes ancient tribal stuff very, very seriously, but, so do the Scots and Irish nationalists.
The Welsh archers of the Cymbro-Normans, have got a special place in Irish hearts. The Welsh Prime Minister Lloyd George, isn't exactly adored in Dublin.
Within the UK, the whupping up of Welsh nationalism is STUPID!!!
I'm going to miss you Jack.
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Posted by hoddles off into the sunset (U14129169) on Friday, 22nd February 2013
I'm going to miss you Jack.Ìý
You could hire a Welsh archer.
You are trying to trick me here aren't you.
, in reply to message 12.
Posted by maggiechow- chained to the railings (U6630370) on Friday, 22nd February 2013
I'm going to miss you Jack.Ìý
You could hire a Welsh archer.Ìý
Snork!
blimey you're brave, fohwpah. expect arrows of outrageous posters winging your way, telling you the archers were in no way english, but all welsh. or cornish. or...Ìý
Fighting for England from Wales,Cornwall etc.Am I ok now?Ìý
Some of them were English... but they weren't fighting for England. They were fighting for the claim of the King of England to the Throne of France. The distinction becomes starker when we think of Richard I who never bothered to come to England at all during his reign (despite the scene at the end of various Robin Hood films).Ìý
Richard I
Born, Beaumont Palace, Oxford, England, 8 September 1157.
His first recorded visit to the continent was in May 1165.
Most of the archers at Agincourt were English, the Cheshire archers of Henry Hotspur the most favoured, they had put a bodkin in the face of young Henry V at Shrewsbury. This is probably the origin of the myth that the longbow was Welsh as Hotspur was allied with Owain Glyndŵr.
The Bills of Array.
, in reply to message 15.
Posted by maggiechow- chained to the railings (U6630370) on Friday, 22nd February 2013
I was counting during his reign (1189-1199), most of which was spent fighting his way round the Middle East and getting captured on the wat back.
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