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A prediction for 2006...
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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Monday, 2nd January 2006
My prediction is that Monty will retire from GW at the end of the year. Now I've never met or spoken to the chap (if you exclude a brief and greatly appreciated exchange of emails on meconopsis last year)- or met anyone else who knows him personally, but:
- his Observer articles increasingly express despair about the mass horticultural industry
- he's bought a farm in Wales
- his latest article focuses on the environment, healthy food and the natural world.
- he's trying to get involved in wider social issues, such as his youth offender scheme
I think his love affair with the decorative garden is waning in favour of the wider organic movement and related social issues.
So firstly, does anyone agree - and if so, who should replace him as GW's front-man? I'm not expecting many to back my personal favourite - Carol Klein. -
Message 2
Posted by Richardf77 (U2391775) on Monday, 2nd January 2006
Hmm I am not surprised you feel this way. I think he has taken on far too much lately, from what i can gather from reading between the lines of his Amateur Gardening magazine and 'daily mail weekender' articles. In one he was saying he has had litle time of late for his own garden, which i can tell means a lot to him. This to me is a bad sign. If a gardener ceases to not have the time for their own plot then they are working too hard at other things.
I know the bills have to be paid, and doing ones own garden doesnt do that (as i know from personal experience!), but you have to have a balance. "All work and no 'play' makes jack (or monty don) a dull boy" as they say.
Quite frankly I like Monty and am starting to worry a bit about him. It would not surprise me in the slightest if he gave up GW within the next few months.
(PS I hope this doesnt sound like i know him personaly - I most certainly dont.) -
Message 3
Posted by Rhoda Dendron (U2176380) on Monday, 2nd January 2006
Very interesting hypothesis Trillium - I think you may well be right. I like Monty but he just doesn't feel totally comfortable for me in the GW role, there is a slight edge to him (as opposed to the always reassuring AT). I didn't feel easy with him at all on the G.O.T.Y. programme (covered elsewhere) and for someone who always comes across as very highly principled I felt that he had either sold out himself, or at the very least gone along with the "set-up confrontational" bits of it.
I would be quite happy to see Carol Klein take-over as lead in GW but I'm not sure it is a role for anyone to covet any more. -
Message 4
Posted by royalgreen (U2373730) on Monday, 2nd January 2006
Monty only shows enthusiasm for Gardeners World and it allows him to reach a bigger audience than any other medium. I note that he appears to be deeply unappreciated by some members of this forum.
His own reduction in home gardening hours might have been more due to buying and owning a farm rather than his (amongst others) three days a week filming, weekly commitments to about 3000 words to a magazine and two papers.
I don't think he has "sold out" at all as he gardens organically on air. At Gardeners World Live were I had the pleasure of briefly meeting him, the only thing he said he disliked when asked about Gardeners World was the Alpine Garden... sounds like a sensilble chap to me!
As for his possible replacement should he leave I note that in the past some factions on this message board would like to see Geoff Hamilton resurrected if possible (take note ´óÏó´«Ã½). If Carol Klein was to get the gig I think a move from Berryfields to The Shires (middle earth) would offers some very interesting horticultural adventures! -
Message 5
Posted by 8supermum (U2768246) on Monday, 2nd January 2006
I would be quite happy to see Carol Klein take-over as lead in GW but I'm not sure it is a role for anyone to covet any more.Ìý
I too would like to see Carol Klein as the lead in GW, gone off Joe Swift since he said my planting was "messy".
I'm happy to sign up as new girl on the block, need the money, don't know much about plants, but do about manure (t'spouse thinks I'm obsessed with it).Gets me away from the kids once a week, and totally embarasses them.
What more do you need for a good presenter ???? -
Message 6
Posted by 8supermum (U2768246) on Monday, 2nd January 2006
His own reduction in home gardening hours might have been more due to buying and owning a farm rather than his (amongst others) three days a week filming, weekly commitments to about 3000 words to a magazine and two papers.Ìý
PS. Monty hates all the "be nice to each other, and pretending to pass the day" etc etc with the others on GW. He likes them no problem, but hates the falseness.
Also farm in Wales is not full time, something to do when he is bored......hasn't spent much time here yet - (its 5 miles up the road from us)..
We all gave him a good grilling whilst on GOTY. -
Message 7
Posted by royalgreen (U2373730) on Monday, 2nd January 2006
Is it me or is this really personal and quite frankly (ahem) sour grapes from some (perhaps messy?) posters? Personally like messy and don't particularly like Garden Designers called Joe!
PS Personally like messy and don't particularly like Garden Designers called Joe! -
Message 8
Posted by 8supermum (U2768246) on Monday, 2nd January 2006
Is it me or is this really personal and quite frankly (ahem) sour grapes from some (perhaps messy?) posters? Personally like messy and don't particularly like Garden Designers called Joe!Ìý
I have liked Joe for some time - he has a nice dad. His style of design is very modern 'tree fern look' so thought he'd been quite biased towards one garden. But..did he have to say "well, messy" in front of so many people.But in his defence he loved my reinforcing steel and did sit and spend 10 mins with us after the show, more than Ms (hostas and ferns in shade?) Raven did, she left 2 minutes after the champagne.
Monty gave no hint on quiting (although I'm sure he would not have told us mere mortals that he was.) We did get braver with our interegation of him over the days, good job it wasn't a week, we'd have found out everything.......... -
Message 9
Posted by Carole911 (U2595780) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006
Oh no!
what a thought to start the new year with. I would be sad if Monty was to leave I have enjoyed very much his presentation of GW. However I would panic as to who the ´óÏó´«Ã½ would replace him with. To me Monty is a first class gardener with all round knowledge. I would be very frightened to find a designer (with a love of concrete) heading up GW. -
Message 10
Posted by Dame Wombat (U2332024) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006
Interesting idea Trillium, or should we call you Mystic Mog? You may well be right. Yes, I'd be happy with CK as front woman for the programme - charming, knowledgeable and plenty of commonsense.
Or they could throw piles of cash at CB to lure him back into the post. I think we have laid the whole hebe thing to rest... -
Message 11
Posted by Rhoda Dendron (U2176380) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006
Happy New Year Wombat - I hope you had a good Christmas. You'll be needing a long lunch hour to skim through all the posts.
I'm still waiting on the gossip about CB from the GOTY people - I think they know more than they are telling! -
Message 12
Posted by Olpharty (U2504503) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006
If Carol Klein was to get the gig I think a move from Berryfields to The Shires (middle earth) would offers some very interesting horticultural adventures!
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Er Royal, you're not suggesting the program should be presented by gardening hobbits are you?............
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Message 13
Posted by Dame Wombat (U2332024) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006
Hi Rhoda! Happy New Year! Yes, I had a lovely Christmas - sowed seeds, watched the cricket, ate lots of turkey. Who could ask for more?
Yes, I think it is going to take me quite some time to catch up on all these threads, possibly more then one lunchtime. But I have just discovered some chocs left in my advent calendar, which will help me to keep going (yay!). I am now going to try to read the sixty-plus posts on the hebe thread that I missed - I may be gone for quite awhile.
How was your Christmas? -
Message 14
Posted by Richardf77 (U2391775) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006
I think with all this worrying about Monty and GW, we should be glad in some ways that the show ISNT broadcast from his own garden. At least if he WERE (heaven forbid)to leave then the programe wouldnt have to move gardens as well as finding a new presenter. All they would have to do is find a new main presenter and carry on as before.
Does anyone agree that if they did need a new presenter it ought to be someone new and fresh, rather someone we know and are perhaps prejudiced for/against? -
Message 15
Posted by Dame Wombat (U2332024) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006
Er Royal, you're not suggesting the program should be presented by gardening hobbits are you?............Ìý
Happy New Year P! Excellent idea! I would LOVE GW to be presented by gardening hobbits, in fact I couldn't think of anything nicer.
Does CB qualify? He's not very big. -
Message 16
Posted by MizzTuppence (U2378711) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006
I didn’t realise Monty was involved with so much, particularly Youth Offender’s schemes, my own brother does similar with ex-offenders in relation to gardening. Yes from what you all say he does seem to have a lot on his plate doesn’t he!!
As for Carol Klein taking over GW, heaven forbid I can’t stand the woman, she is probably very nice, but hate the scary hair and that strange way she has of talking and please no one mention Diarmuid Gavin taking over, Arghaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
Happy New Year everyone! -
Message 17
Posted by budding1 (U2757103) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006
Have to say that whilst I agree in several articles monty has had a well earned grumble about lack of time etc. I doubt he will leave gardeners world or the bbc. Though I know there was talk of making a programme about the young offenders/ teaching them to garden etc. Also monty is filming a new series around the world in 80 gardens to be filmed this year, so im sure we will see a lot more of him yet.
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Message 18
Posted by 8supermum (U2768246) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006
Though I know there was talk of making a programme about the young offenders/ teaching them to garden etc. Ìý
Whilst we were filming GOTY, we had a second film crew in filming Monty, filming us etc for the above programme. This was to show why he could not be with them all the time. -
Message 19
Posted by 8supermum (U2768246) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006
I'm still waiting on the gossip about CB from the GOTY people - I think they know more than they are telling! Ìý
Mmmmm not sure if we can tell you all, but it has to do with last years GOTY, and something that has been mentioned before, that they did then but not this year.... -
Message 20
Posted by Lottie (U2331125) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006
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As for Carol Klein taking over GW, heaven forbid I can’t stand the woman, she is probably very nice, but hate the scary hair and that strange way she has of talking and please no one mention Diarmuid Gavin taking over, Arghaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
Happy New Year everyone!
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Do you not like our curly haired Irish fella then Mizz T? -
Message 21
Posted by MizzTuppence (U2378711) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2006
No I don't, the man has absolutely no talent whatsoever and I believe his garden designs border on the ridiculous.
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Message 22
Posted by budding1 (U2757103) on Wednesday, 4th January 2006
Cheers for letting me know supermum, should be a good series. After reading your earlier post about cheap bulbs I thought id visit a few garden centres to see what bargins I could get. I managed to get 40 quids worth of bulbd for two pound fifty, bargain! mainly Alliums purple sensation etc Just got to plant them all now!
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Message 23
Posted by 8supermum (U2768246) on Wednesday, 4th January 2006
After reading your earlier post about cheap bulbs I thought id visit a few garden centres to see what bargins I could get. I managed to get 40 quids worth of bulbd for two pound fifty, bargain! mainly Alliums purple sensation etc Just got to plant them all now!
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My whole garden is full of extra cheap bulbs, and they do just as well as the very few full price bulbs I have bought. I did manage to get some Allium giganteum's/gladiators for 50p each, the bulbs were 3" diameter - they had been £4.99 each.
The only trouble as you say is that you have to plant them....still got 40 packs of tulips to go in, but they flower on time even if planted now, so no worries - as long as I do plant them....Oh and I got 2 of the £9.99 sacks of daffodils for £1 each today, again they've only just started shooting so will be absolutley fine, the kids are sick of planting them though, last time I did make it a punishment for kicking all the molehills over and treading on them - they had been warned severely...they haven't stood on one since then, it obviously worked... -
Message 24
Posted by grammarnatsi (U2379487) on Wednesday, 4th January 2006
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the kids are sick of planting them though, last time I did make it a punishment for kicking all the molehills over and treading on them - they had been warned severely...they haven't stood on one since then, it obviously worked...</quote>"
Ahhh, that's a good one!!!
by the way, I thought you shouldda won. Er, maybe I'll go to the GOTY thread for any more comment... -
Message 25
Posted by Chocosmos (U2994614) on Thursday, 19th January 2006
As for Carol Klein taking over GW, heaven forbid I can’t stand the woman, she is probably very nice, but hate the scary hair and that strange way she has of talking and please no one mention Diarmuid Gavin taking over, Arghaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
Here, here!!! Carol Klein with her horrid little glorified rock gardens reeks of those naff garden centres where the only plants to be had are begonias in hideous colours and plastic ornaments. I for one would be HEARTBROKEN if Monty throws in his trowel... the only weekly oasis of style and practicality on the ´óÏó´«Ã½. Sarah Raven would be a good alternative head presenter — so why not chuck GW to the wolves and have these two presenting their own hour long programme once a month. -
Message 26
Posted by PolyAnthus2 (U2333071) on Thursday, 19th January 2006
Once a month? Once a week please!
I for one would be HEARTBROKEN if Monty throws in his trowel... the only weekly oasis of style and practicality on the ´óÏó´«Ã½. Sarah Raven would be a good alternative head presenter — so why not chuck GW to the wolves and have these two presenting their own hour long programme once a month.Ìý -
Message 27
Posted by treaclepuss (U2734046) on Thursday, 19th January 2006
I hope Monty Don carries on ad infinitum, he's terrific.
But Carol Klein would be a good second choice......she really knows her stuff.
I just can't appreciate Rachel de Thame's ideas - may her fecundity continue if that's what's keeping her busy elsewhere. -
Message 28
Posted by oak (U2961147) on Friday, 20th January 2006
Presenters do seem to move-on more often these days. They seem to be victims of their own success, and get pulled in all directions to do this and that. Like Carol Klein only in small doses, I'm sure she is a very nice lady, but she speeks too fast, and her demonstrations are not very clear to follow. (hair and dress sence distracting). I would't vote for any of the others to front GW, except possibly Chris Beardshaw but he does Flying Garden soo excently that he would be subject to TV over exposure. Not sure he has enough carisma.
I would vote for DIARMUD GAVIN, I'd love to see him digging the borders on GW for a change, has excellent speaking voice for presenting, has a certain charisma, but would hope he has a hair cut. Hate seeing presenters digging and bending with hair falling in their eyes all the time, Sarah Raven, Charlie Dimmock...or for goodness sake tie it back.
The alternative is a fresh face, someone relatively unknown, but please not Christine. -
Message 29
Posted by Ken Smart (U1158196) on Friday, 20th January 2006
I would vote for DIARMUD GAVIN, I'd love to see him digging the borders on GW for a change, has excellent speaking voice for presenting, has a certain charismaÌý
At least you've given me a smile. Diarmuid Gavin wouldn't know how to dig a border, or what to do with it once he'd been shown how to turn it over. The guy's become a drama queen in low grade lifestyle programmes for frustrated housewives. Speaking is the one thing that El Mumblo can't do, but with the ´óÏó´«Ã½ pushing Ian Wright (a flawed ex-football player) into frontline TV, I must presume that such failings are seen as a bonus in certain situations. I acknowledge that he clearly has a large female following, but I would think that a different selection process would be applied to the flagship gardening programme. Let's just hope that Monty Don sticks with it for the foreseeable future. -
Message 30
Posted by Rhoda Dendron (U2176380) on Friday, 20th January 2006
Ken - As usual you've said it all! Except for where did you get the idea that El Mumblo had a large female following? We are not talking gorgeous pouting Chris Beardshaw here!
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Message 31
Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Friday, 20th January 2006
We are not talking gorgeous pouting Chris Beardshaw here!
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I just don't get it Rhoda. Why do so many ladies find Chris Beardshaw attractive? George Clooney I can understand, perhaps even Johnny Depp as rougish Captain Sparrow rather than that high maintenance troubled hollywood actor persona he puts out. Its the Jude Law factor again. It mystifies me why so many women find HIM attractive as well. -
Message 32
Posted by Rhoda Dendron (U2176380) on Friday, 20th January 2006
I totally agree with you Karen. We will have to ask Dame Wombat as I believe she genuinely does find him gorgeous! I'm afraid I don't go for George Clooney, Brad Pitt or Jude Law either. Johnny Depp is a possibility - I'm afraid (showing my age) that Paul Newman and a taller version of Al Pacino would be more my line. If I was going to have a toy boy I think Preston (currently in the Big Brother house) would do!
And to get back to gardening - really none of the male gardening presenters rock my socks! There was a nice looking bloke with long hair on the A4A picture thread. Perhaps he needs some gainful employment at the ´óÏó´«Ã½? Rhoda -
Message 33
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Friday, 20th January 2006
Hi Karen and Rhoda - for me the attraction of CB is that he has sparkle. He knows about plants and design and trends and gardening history and talks with enormous enthusiasm about plants and generally inspires me to want to get out and do things in my own garden. And he has loads of energy combined with a sense of humour and fun.
Can't see the point of Jude Law either and DG is definitely not eye or ear candy either, Mr Smart. I don't actually care what garden presenters look like as long as they know their stuff and can present it clearly and with flair that inspires and enthuses both novices and more experienced gardeners to have a go. -
Message 34
Posted by Dame Wombat (U2332024) on Friday, 20th January 2006
Hi Karen and Rhoda - for me the attraction of CB is that he has sparkle. He knows about plants and design and trends and gardening history and talks with enormous enthusiasm about plants and generally inspires me to want to get out and do things in my own garden. And he has loads of energy combined with a sense of humour and fun.
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Thanks Obelixx! That's exactly my opinion of CB too. And long may he last.
No Rhoda, much as I like CB as a TV presenter, he isn't my idea of fanciable. Now if he was bit more like Pierluigi Collina. Sigh ... -
Message 35
Posted by Rhoda Dendron (U2176380) on Friday, 20th January 2006
No Rhoda, much as I like CB as a TV presenter, he isn't my idea of fanciable. Now if he was bit more like Pierluigi Collina. Sigh ...Ìý
Sorry for the slander on your name re CB Dame Wombat. I had to google for Pierluigi person as I lead a sheltered life and had never heard of him. Now I am beginning to wish I had still never heard of him as I might get nightmares!
But seriously as the men get Sarah, Carol and Rachella isn't it time us laydees also got a bit of eye-candy? -
Message 36
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Friday, 20th January 2006
Hi Rhoda - I'm not too worried about balancing male and female presenters either - except I do wonder how the female ones manage to have respectable nails!
Have to agree about Mr Collina. Yuk! Though I suppose being a football ref would make your hair fall out if you didn't tear it out first. -
Message 37
Posted by Dame Wombat (U2332024) on Friday, 20th January 2006
Rhoda, Obelixx, I'm hurt. Mr Collina is beautiful - intelligent, funny, elegant - what more could a girl ask for?
And he has been on The Simpsons. I rest my case. -
Message 38
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Friday, 20th January 2006
Rhoda, Obelixx, I'm hurt. Mr Collina is beautiful - intelligent, funny, elegant - what more could a girl ask for?
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I know what you mean - compelling, assertive, elegant, very fit. But those eyes - too scary! -
Message 39
Posted by Rhoda Dendron (U2176380) on Friday, 20th January 2006
Rhoda, Obelixx, I'm hurt. Mr Collina is beautiful - intelligent, funny, elegant - what more could a girl ask for?
And he has been on The Simpsons. I rest my case.
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Tony Blair has been on The Simpsons. I rest my case. -
Message 40
Posted by RitaMD (U1780868) on Friday, 20th January 2006
I think G.W. needs to be rethought. I have watched since Geoff Hamilton but cant bear it now. Too many short slots and gardeners striding into shot carrying a plant. Four presenters each with a speciality, dipping in and out on a half hour show is a nightmare. I will watch again when it has some continuity. It is a delight to get Alan back for a few weeks of restful gardening with some theme to the programme.
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Message 41
Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Friday, 20th January 2006
Can't see the point of Jude Law either and DG is definitely not eye or ear candy either, Mr Smart. Ìý
Its the power of celebrity Obelix - being on the telly. Money is a pretty powerful attraction as well. Its amazing how much attention very average men get, who many women wouldn't give a second glance, once they are equipped with one or both of the above. That french chef, Jean Christophe Novelli, has just opened a small pub/restaurant near me. I've heard it on the grapevine they made 3,500 reservations in the first week. Can't book a table there for months now because lots of women have swamped the reservations desk hoping to be in the presence of the man himself.
This has got me thinking so, amendment to the above rules. A sexy french accent can be attractive as well. -
Message 42
Posted by Dame Wombat (U2332024) on Friday, 20th January 2006
Rhoda, Obelixx, I'm hurt. Mr Collina is beautiful - intelligent, funny, elegant - what more could a girl ask for?
And he has been on The Simpsons. I rest my case.
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Tony Blair has been on The Simpsons. I rest my case.Ìý
He he. Good point, but Tony Blair isn't athletic, funny or elegant. In fact you could argue that his only claim to fame is being on The Simpsons.
On the subject of celebrity, has anyone who has appeared on The Simpsons also appeared on Celebrity Big Brother? -
Message 43
Posted by oak (U2961147) on Friday, 20th January 2006
I would vote for DIARMUD GAVIN, I'd love to see him digging the borders on GW for a change, has excellent speaking voice for presenting, has a certain charismaÌý
At least you've given me a smile. Diarmuid Gavin wouldn't know how to dig a border, or what to do with it once he'd been shown how to turn it over. The guy's become a drama queen in low grade lifestyle programmes for frustrated housewives. Speaking is the one thing that El Mumblo can't do, but with the ´óÏó´«Ã½ pushing Ian Wright (a flawed ex-football player) into frontline TV, I must presume that such failings are seen as a bonus in certain situations. I acknowledge that he clearly has a large female following, but I would think that a different selection process would be applied to the flagship gardening programme. Let's just hope that Monty Don sticks with it for the foreseeable future. Ìý
I detect a triffle male jeolousy!! So what if he has a female following doesn't stop a person being good at what they do, a successful garden designer and t.v. presenter. Despite what you think of him, he hasn't got where he is being unpopular or unskilled. If Home Front was a bit tacky at times, thats the format dished up by the ´óÏó´«Ã½.
You insult D.G. - he is a trained horticulturist and runs a garden design school. You also insult housewives by implying we're all airheads. Growl!!
I appreciate many people appreciate M.Don but I've never really liked his style of presenting or agreed with everything he does in the garden. His looks or anyone elses are not important to me and don't come into any consideration as a presenter for G.W. I would like to see someone fronting G.W. who is knowledgeable, easy going, who you would instantly warm to if they were, say working down on the alloment, next to you.
Really a G.W. presenter doesn't have to be an excellent gardener, as its probably all scripted anyway, and then a team of real 'get your hands dirty' gardeners come in and do all the work off camera. -
Message 44
Posted by oak (U2961147) on Friday, 20th January 2006
Nothing wrong with Ian Wright either! another nice easy going chap. Diarmud and Ian - they could have their own gardening programme!
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Message 45
Posted by Ken Smart (U1158196) on Friday, 20th January 2006
You also insult housewives by implying we're all airheads. Growl!!Ìý
I think you'll find that I did no such thing. I may not possess your impeccable tastes in horticultural matters, but I do have a fairly good grasp of the English language. -
Message 46
Posted by Ken Smart (U1158196) on Friday, 20th January 2006
Nothing wrong with Ian Wright either! another nice easy going chap. Diarmud and Ian - they could have their own gardening programme!
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I sense the makings of a good compost heap. -
Message 47
Posted by 8supermum (U2768246) on Friday, 20th January 2006
I would like to see someone fronting G.W. who is knowledgeable, easy going, who you would instantly warm to if they were, say working down on the alloment, next to you.Ìý
I think you'll find that Monty is your man...thats just how we found him, and he was like it for the 4 days we worked with him...As I've said before he hates all the falseness that goes with GW, he'd rather be straight forward, but as it pays the bills, can any presenter afford to argue.... -
Message 48
Posted by oak (U2961147) on Friday, 20th January 2006
<quote user='Ken Smart' userid='1158196'></quote>
The guy's become a drama queen in low grade lifestyle programmes for frustrated housewives. </quote>
Insulting to housewives - however you interpret it! Why houswives.. why not the unemployed, or house husbands or pensioners why not anyone who watches them. I must have been frustrated once, I used to enjoy Home Front until I got bored watching the repeats. -
Message 49
Posted by marypoppins1 (U2341113) on Saturday, 21st January 2006
Totally agree with you about Chris Beardshaw and I DO find him attractive. There is just something about him. I would much rather look at and listen to him talking about gardening than George Clooney, Brad Pitt or Jude Law pretending to save the world or whatever they do. Must be my age -well I am now in my late 30's so it perhaps it's something to do with personality being more important than looks as you get older!
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Message 50
Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Saturday, 21st January 2006
Must be my age -well I am now in my late 30's so it perhaps it's something to do with personality being more important than looks as you get older!Ìý
I'm over 40 and I'd much rather georgeous George attended to my borders than Chris Beardshaw
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