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  Posted by onthemoors (U3582437) on Tuesday, 4th April 2006

  From seed, i have 26 cherry toms growing on my windowsill. They are reaching the stage (i think) when i can transplant them into own pots ready for putting in my plastic greenhouse. This is the 1st time i have grown anything and do not want to lose them. What exactly are the side shoots i should be pinching out. They have new shoots on them, but to me it just looks like its new growth.

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  Posted by catherine (U2410528) on Wednesday, 5th April 2006

  Well done on your 26 tom plants. They need to be kept frost free so if they are going into your plastic greenhouse you need to check that they will be warm enough. The side shoots appear inbetween a leaf and the main stem. One minute the look like an innocent leaf the next they will have turned into a new stem! Just pinch them out with your fingers, leaving you with one main stem. They can be transplanted 'when they are large enough to handle', I leave mine until they have a pair of leaves. Which variety have you grown? I can recommend Sungold, but have also got Gardeners Delight, Ildi (yellow) and Harlequin on the go.

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  Posted by tillybud (U3692141) on Wednesday, 5th April 2006

  Well done on your 26 tom plants. They need to be kept frost free so if they are going into your plastic greenhouse you need to check that they will be warm enough. The side shoots appear inbetween a leaf and the main stem. One minute the look like an innocent leaf the next they will have turned into a new stem! Just pinch them out with your fingers, leaving you with one main stem. They can be transplanted 'when they are large enough to handle', I leave mine until they have a pair of leaves. Which variety have you grown? I can recommend Sungold, but have also got Gardeners Delight, Ildi (yellow) and Harlequin on the go.Ìý
  
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  Thanks for the reply. The variety i have is call something 100 or 100 something, not sure of the correct name, but there is 100 in there somewhere. If i pinch out the shoots, does this mean i will only ever have the 1st two shoots that appeared first? & do i need to put sticks in the pots when i am ready to transfer them from my little green plugs to larger pots?

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  Posted by Toadspawn (U2334298) on Wednesday, 5th April 2006

  You should not need to worry about pinching out side shoots as the plants are still at the seedling stage. When they get to about 12-18" high and are showing the first flower truss then you can begin to pinch out any side shoots that form. Do not pinch out the main stem. If inadvertently the main stem does die then leave a side shoot to continue growing.
  If you want to use the side shoots as cuttings to produce more plants then wait until they are at least 2-3" long, but with 26 seedlings I doubt you will need to use them.

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  Posted by tillybud (U3692141) on Wednesday, 5th April 2006

  You should not need to worry about pinching out side shoots as the plants are still at the seedling stage. When they get to about 12-18" high and are showing the first flower truss then you can begin to pinch out any side shoots that form. Do not pinch out the main stem. If inadvertently the main stem does die then leave a side shoot to continue growing.
  If you want to use the side shoots as cuttings to produce more plants then wait until they are at least 2-3" long, but with 26 seedlings I doubt you will need to use them. Ìý
  
  This makes things a lot clearer, thank you very much

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  Posted by Derek-F (U3700479) on Thursday, 6th April 2006

  Hi onthemoors
  This is my first time on this website, and I'm very new to gardening. Over the last two summers I've enjoyed growing cherry tomatoes outside in hanging baskets. I've seedlings on my windowsill as well (Tumbling Toms & Gartenperle) ready for leaving home when the weather allows.
  I've never bothered pinching out as I understood I didn't have to, with no detriment to the crop. Delicious when eaten fresh!
  Best wishes,
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  Posted by tillybud (U3692141) on Thursday, 6th April 2006

  Hi onthemoors
  This is my first time on this website, and I'm very new to gardening. Over the last two summers I've enjoyed growing cherry tomatoes outside in hanging baskets. I've seedlings on my windowsill as well (Tumbling Toms & Gartenperle) ready for leaving home when the weather allows.
  I've never bothered pinching out as I understood I didn't have to, with no detriment to the crop. Delicious when eaten fresh!
  Best wishes,
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  Hi Derek,
  I have never heard of anyone planting toms in hanging baskets before, sounds very interesting. Do they trail or grow upright. Do you not have a problem with squirrels pinching them?
  
  

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  Posted by Derek-F (U3700479) on Thursday, 6th April 2006

  Hi Janjanh,
  The toms are cherry types and give a nice, bushy display, hanging over the sides of the baskets. The reason I grow in baskets is because we only have a small garden that my wife loves to populate with flowers. But, spurred on by GW last year, I've grown lettuce, chard & spring onions in window boxes. This year I'm adding peas (Kelvedon/Early Onward) to my container "allotment" along with radishes.
  Although our garden is small, it backs onto some woods and I've noticed a big increase in the grey squirrel population recently so, yes, it could be a problem.

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  Posted by tillybud (U3692141) on Thursday, 6th April 2006

  Derek
  
  You have inspired me. I have decided to plant a few of my toms in baskets at the front of my house. The squirrel do not appear to visit there.
  The description of the display sounds very pretty.
  
  Thank you for your time.
  
  Jan

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  Posted by Toadspawn (U2334298) on Thursday, 6th April 2006

  They are trailing tomatoes produced for growing in hanging baskets and window boxes. They do not need to be pinched out because the more shoots they produce usually the better the crop. Do they trail or grow upright.
  
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  Posted by Derek-F (U3700479) on Thursday, 6th April 2006

  Hello again onthemoors & Jan,
  I guess Toadspawn about wraps it up. So just plant, water, feed and enjoy the crop!
  Last year I put some basil in each basket as well.
  Have fun.
  Derek

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  Posted by tillybud (U3692141) on Thursday, 6th April 2006

  They are trailing tomatoes produced for growing in hanging baskets and window boxes. They do not need to be pinched out because the more shoots they produce usually the better the crop. Do they trail or grow upright.
  
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  Are my Sweet Million F1 (not 100 something as previously stated) trailers or do i need to buy a special type to trail.
  
  Jan

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  Posted by ManuChris (U3628779) on Thursday, 6th April 2006

  try the following link

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  Posted by tillybud (U3692141) on Thursday, 6th April 2006

  try the following link Ìý
  
  Thank you very much ManuChris, I shall have a good read tomorrow.
  
  Thanks to the others posters also.
  
  Jan

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  Posted by DrBill (U2912709) on Friday, 7th April 2006

  
  
  It would seem to me that this is a vigorous variety which would not do well in a small container.I suspect it would need some support. Sounds nice though
  
  God Bless
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  Posted by tillybud (U3692141) on Friday, 7th April 2006

  
  
  It would seem to me that this is a vigorous variety which would not do well in a small container.I suspect it would need some support. Sounds nice though
  
  God Bless
  BillÌý
  
  
  My goodness, if i have 26 of them and all do well, i'll be on the food board asking for recipes.
  
  Thank you
  
  Jan

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  Posted by happydaddio (U3390569) on Sunday, 9th April 2006

  the shoots from the mainstem and trunk are;are left where they are;only the standard ones they are nipped off.put a mixture of mp compost /perlite for watr retention+fertiliser granules/mixed together.fiil the pots with the mixture;put the potsin their drip trays ;after fiiling the trays with water;plant in1 bush tomato plasnt a potthe pots and trays will need to be at least 8 or so inches;to cope with the possible crop of cherry tomatoes fromeach planted tomato bush plant/keep the compost damp never wet at first fruit formed/feed according to the instructions on the tomato liquid fertiliser feed onnce a week dampen the compost onlyn otherwisenever wet the leaves or it will cause sin scorch browned leaves[water from their trays]

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  Posted by catherine (U2410528) on Monday, 10th April 2006

  Try Tumbling Tom or I use Garden Pearl. The more shoots on these the more tomatoes you get. They are bred esp to grow in tubs/baskets and tumble over the edges. 'Normal' tomatoes such as your Sweet Millions are bred to grow upright on one main stem. There are also bush varieties which grow upright and produce tomatoes from all stems therefore need no pinching out (is that just confusing the issue?).

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  Posted by tillybud (U3692141) on Monday, 10th April 2006

  Try Tumbling Tom or I use Garden Pearl. The more shoots on these the more tomatoes you get. They are bred esp to grow in tubs/baskets and tumble over the edges. 'Normal' tomatoes such as your Sweet Millions are bred to grow upright on one main stem. There are also bush varieties which grow upright and produce tomatoes from all stems therefore need no pinching out (is that just confusing the issue?).Ìý
  
  Thats brill, i feel well armed with info now. Thanks you all
  
  Jan

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  Posted by tillybud (U3692141) on Tuesday, 18th April 2006

  Just to let you all know my 26 sweet million tom plants (from seed) are all doing nicely in my little 6x4 plastic green house. I decided to pinch the leafs out as advised with this 'breed'. I have spotted some tumbling toms, and the growing instructions quite clearly state they can be grown in hanging baskets. I am going to get some at weekend and try it. I bet they look smashing when in fruit.
  
  Thanks again to all concerned
  
  Jan

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