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POSH GARDENS 3 and 1970 1
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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by kfgray (U14470933) on Sunday, 27th March 2011
Well program 3 and what do we get another set of posh gardens . Monty and the box hedge's and his hazel coppice Levens Hall more bl++dy Box and tiopiary. And Lady Chumley and Joe teaching grandma to suck eggs. With a man right out of a 1970's gardening program with his one plant garden.
I get the feeling that this is the ´óÏó´«Ã½ letting the poor people be told by the posh how to garden. While visiting the poor people in their funny little gardens. A kind of Upstairs Downstairs , but less intresting, simply another snore feest -
Message 2
Posted by cufcskim (U14483815) on Sunday, 27th March 2011
Use the off button then!
Bobby Davro wept -
Message 3
Posted by kfgray (U14470933) on Sunday, 27th March 2011
Use the off button then!
Bobby Davro weptÌý I pay to watch free to comment -
Message 4
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Monday, 28th March 2011
There was nothing posh about dahlia man and he had some really good tips for increasing one's stock. The head gardener at Levens wasn't posh either but he also knew his stuff and lots of people are, or will ahve, problems with box blight so his advice was useful.
Monty's garden isn't posh either. It's just formal in style and the hedging separates it into smaller, more easily manageable areas about the size of an average UK garden.
I thought it was interesting and useful that Monty warned us of the perils of pruning or trimming shrubs and hedges at the wrong time of the year and also neglecting essential but boring mainetenance work. That's good advice for anyone no matter how big or small their garden and the seaweed spray is applicable to any plant stressed by the hard winter.
I enjoyed seeing sweet peas demystified too. Some people can be very precious about how and when to grow them whereas most of us have no greenhouse or cold frames or else have problems with mice and rats or harsher winters that mean autumn sowings are a complete waste of time.
Gardeners in temperate zones with variable weather patterns and seasons and soil types need to be flexible and optimistic in order to cope and I think a lot of posters on this board need to exercise their lateral thinking faculties a bit more. -
Message 5
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
"I thought it was interesting and useful that Monty warned us of the perils of pruning or trimming shrubs and hedges at the wrong time of the year and also neglecting essential but boring mainetenance work. That's good advice for anyone no matter how big or small their garden and the seaweed spray is applicable to any plant stressed by the hard winter. "
Well if he had been my gardener and trimmed my box hedges in October, I would have sacked him on the spot.
Re maintenance work, I think the whole garden seems subject to some serious neglect. -
Message 6
Posted by Ariadne Knickerbocker (U4534559) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
I thought that Monty's garden was totally flooded a few years back, plus he has had a heart attack to recover from, filmed two TV series one about pig farming and the other about country crafts, plus he has his hobby farm in Wales to look after and his Italian Job filming. So no wonder the garden looks a bit neglected.
Hopefully some of the Beeb GW lot will give the poor guy a hand to sort it out.
Personally I think seeing how it develops from neglect/winter to being tidied up and replanted over the summer could be quite interesting.
My mother used to grow sweet peas and she just put seeds straight in the ground and they flourished with masses of flowers. Is it just these new varieties that need all the Autumn sowings and toilet roll faffing around? -
Message 7
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
Re the flood, stroke and other projects:
He does have help in the garden, doesn't do the work himself
If he can't give sufficient time to his garden he should prioritise...why should we have to put up with substandard fare because he "plays" at a lot of things
I pay for my own garden, why should I pay ( licence) for the ´óÏó´«Ã½ to get his back to how it should look?
He can walk the walk...but so far..hasn't been able to talk the talk!! Let's at least see some progress - he's done nothing in 3 programmes, at a time of year when most of us are spending as many hours as possible getting our gardens in shape. -
Message 8
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
Wanda - Yes, I agree about the flooding and Monty's recent health issues and because of it I feel a little uneasy about commenting about the apparent unkempt state of his garden. But it was his decision to take back the GW job and insisting it was transmitted from his own garden.
Heath & wellbeing transcends all other considerations and I do wish him good health in the future. -
Message 9
Posted by Paul N (U6451125) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
Good grief, my gob is well and truly smacked by some of the comments on here, comments of inverted snobbery, for instance. Poor Monty cannot seem to put a foot right in some people's eyes can he? After the shambolic dumbing down of the last couple of years, he will become the programme's saviour. But what do we get here but whinging and griping by posters who after two years of silence have crept out of the woodwork to spout their bile.
My garden is in a bit of a mess but it's damned March isn't it? Mine always looks like this in March but by the time it's open to the public in June, it will look fine.
I think some people should get over themselves. -
Message 10
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
I so agree - if he had a pristine garden some people would say it was all down to teams of gardeners - if he hasn't a pristine garden some people complain....
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Message 11
Posted by DiggerSean (U14704361) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
I'm not going to go over old ground here, lets just see how GW pans out, it must improve soon.
I did find it strange though that when Monty was planting out a Erythronium in the coppiced garden he said he was planting it next to a Dogs Tooth Violet as they'll go well together....but isn't that because they're both Dogs Tooth Violets or am I missing something? -
Message 12
Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
Re maintenance work, I think the whole garden seems subject to some serious neglect.Ìý
That's a pretty whopping big statement David. Lets have specifics please. For a garden in March in a part of the country that's colder than many areas I think its in very good nick - certainly by the standards of gardens I've been visiting lately. -
Message 13
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
Re maintenance work, I think the whole garden seems subject to some serious neglect.Ìý
That's a pretty whopping big statement David. Lets have specifics please. For a garden in March in a part of the country that's colder than many areas I think its in very good nick - certainly by the standards of gardens I've been visiting lately.
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I would oblige, but as I've already been accused of being snobbish, perhaps best not to elaborate further. -
Message 14
Posted by Stressed out (U11163734) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
Paul N
I think some people should get over themselves.Ìý
Words like pot and kettle come to mind
You like Monty, some people don't, get over it (sarcasm off) -
Message 15
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
Moga is on the One Show
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Message 16
Posted by Paul N (U6451125) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
And of course RC there's no doubting where you stand in the subject with your intermidable criticism of him. Like it or not, most do like him (and as I write he's speaking eloquently on 'The One Show').
I would agree that the Joe Swift/Rachel de Thame part doesn't work but there's time to correct that. -
Message 17
Posted by Mal (U14487361) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
Like it or not, most do like him (and as I write he's speaking eloquently on 'The One Show').Ìý
His support for homoeopathy on The One Show was disappointing, makes me less likely to trust his advice on other topics. -
Message 18
Posted by gloria searle (U14280495) on Wednesday, 30th March 2011
Monty on the One Show?
Of course! Another programme coming up and a book to sell. -
Message 19
Posted by Pumpkin_Patch_Paul (U14565900) on Wednesday, 30th March 2011
Sadly I think there is a lot of truth in what you say.....
Like I said elsewhere I think Montys return is more to do with spin-offs then spinach. -
Message 20
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Wednesday, 30th March 2011
His re-appointment is a 'story' so he's been placed on the PR round. I wouldn't be too cynical - it's part of the scope of the role whether he likes it or not (I suspect not...).
GW is an important 'brand' for the ´óÏó´«Ã½. Undoubtedly Monty's ability to write a well-crafted sentence and hold the attention of a chat show audience will have featured as plus points in considering a new lead presenter. It would have been illogical to do otherwise. -
Message 21
Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Thursday, 31st March 2011
Trillium - as ever the voice of common sense.
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