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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Friday, 22nd April 2011
Perfect for me - gosh it makes me happy -
Message 2
Posted by chloedavis13 (U14811508) on Friday, 22nd April 2011
Hi- enjoyed tonights programme more than previous weeks. Only one thing- why does Monty have the most horrible tripods all over the garden! Sure they will look nice later in the summer but at the moment they are horrid.
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Message 3
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Friday, 22nd April 2011
Okay, I've criticised MD when he's getting it wrong, but tonight I thought it was a faultless performance by him & all who took part.
Carol was particularly brilliant, but that's what we have become to expect of her.
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Message 4
Posted by Wilts91 (U14760451) on Friday, 22nd April 2011
It's good to see how much better the programme is now. We learn something from the different presenters, I like the hands on approach with them showing how to propagate, how to sow the seeds, its all practical & makes me want to grow more of my own.
Monty has a very relaxed manner I suppose its because the programme is coming from his own garden, so good to see the garden coming along too.
I must buy more tulips when they become available later in the year, his looked wonderful. I did the same has him with daffodils planted in January, they're still flowering now obviously late but lovely.
Carol always has such enthusiasm with anything she does, that really comes across. Shall be trying out the propagation techniques myself.
Looks like I need to catch up with the GW progs that I've missed on earlier weeks, will stick with it from now on.
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Message 5
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
I'd hoped for more topiary.
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Message 6
Posted by honestGreengrass (U11104227) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
Yes it was definitely better than the previous programmes.
However, after showing Bob Haszeldine's wonderful garden at Copt Howe, (where he'd established plants collected from his travels around the world), why on earth didn't one of the presenters mention that there are now strict rules about bring plants back into the UK from abroad. Here's the RHS info sheet
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Message 7
Posted by Ken Smart (U1158196) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
I also thought it was an excellent programme. Good subjects - well presented. I've always been a staunch supporter of Monty Don, and I would hope that many of those who are not similarly enamoured will soon come to appreciate that we have here a man who is short on gimmicks, but big on ability. He is also blessed with a wonderful vocabulary, and it's little wonder that his books have pride of place on so many peoples table tops. It's also worth saying, that this fine programme didn't feature Joe at all, and RdeT had only a bit part - lessons to be learned methinks.
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Message 8
Posted by Oldends (U13875463) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
But where did he get that double-headed rake? Never seen one before!
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Message 9
Posted by hypercharleyfarley (U7444019) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
Hi - I've been wondering about that rake for a couple of weeks now - have tried googling tool suppliers & found nothing like it. Anyone else know? I know Monty used to read the message boards, and contribute sometimes, but given all the less-than-complimentary posts (unjustified, in my opinion!) I don't suppose he'd want to put his head over the proverbial parapet.
I've really enjoyed the programmes so far - the time flies by and I do wish there were more. -
Message 10
Posted by Pumpkin_Patch_Paul (U14565900) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
Well lack of Joe was more then made up by the performance and introduction of Mr Toad.......
Didn,t agree with his rose planting or his tomatoe potting on tips but it was a well crafted programme and an enjoyable watch (apart from lousy picture quality).
I would have like more info on those white packing things I have two boxes of them I thought they were some kind of plastic,they were in the carboard boxes in the wonderfull compost item and I think he said "celluose"?...Any more info anybody??...
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Message 11
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
PPP - have you heard of Google?
Never mind. Cellulose packing is made from corn starch and is soluble in water. Think cheese puffs with none of the nasty chemical flavourings and colourings. They are therefore quite safe on a compost heap.
However they are not to be confused with their styrofoam cousins which i find useful in teh bottom of deep pots for providing drainage, insulation and saving compost for temporary plants that don't need a deep root run.
If it dissolves in water, it's cellulose. If it floats, it's styrofoam.
As for the roses, I've planted roses that way (except for no mycrorhizal fungi availabla at the time) and they're all fine. Same for tomatoes though I've given up sowing my own now. Far too many seeds in one packet and I never find homes fo all the spares and end up with too many so now I buy one each of a few varieties from a specialist at a plant fair and then pot them on gradually until they get to the biggest pot. Works for me. -
Message 12
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
i cannot tell you guys how much i enjoyed the 1 hour programme. pure relaxation and inspiration. monty always puts me at ease. although i do refer to him as monty perm.
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Message 13
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
I seem to remember years ago seeing a photo of his kids, who were both curly wurlys!
My Mum said it came from eating your crusts., but Mums tell fibs a lot -
Message 14
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
fibs ! that is a great word... really disliked monty at first , thought alan was the only presenter for me.
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Message 15
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
Still a slow,preachy programme, but marginally less boring......I did manage to stay awake - just....
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Message 16
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
Perhaps you'd be better with Ground force and the 2 day makeover plus hiding behind the shed scenario?
It moves faster and no time for preachiness -
Message 17
Posted by Lisa (U14598429) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
Well I thoroughly enjoyed last night's programme. I don't know if it was because it was an hour long rather than the usual half hour, or if it was because Carol was doing her bit from her fabulous garden or if it was the lack of Joe (sorry Joe) or if it was because Monty only said "Jewelled Garden" once.
I really fancy having a go on one of those balloons that they had at the Eden Project.
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Message 18
Posted by PenylanSue (U13901201) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
Hi PPP, try this link. We received a parcel containing this stuff and they kindly stuck an information leaflet with it, I suppose so that we didn't confuse it with polystyrene.
Sue
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Message 19
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
Still a slow,preachy programme, but marginally less boring......I did manage to stay awake - just....Ìý Come on now-this was better-perhaps someone takes notice of recent comments posted on this messageboard after all.
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Message 20
Posted by kfgray (U14470933) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
Perfect for me - gosh it makes me happyÌý Well not sure perfect but a big improvment on the first weeks, a better program for being an hour and no Joe. But the garden still looks more like early spring those pleached Limes look like mid winter. And the box hedge half dead in patchs. I have been roasting for two weeks now, as has much of the country. I have roses in bloom clematis going wild and very confused Rubecia flowering away thinking its July. And am picking mizuma and other young salard crops But having watched Italian Gardens . Which look stunning, Monty has a real fire in his belly and passion in his presenting , which I just feel he fails to make present in GW and is the sky ever blue in MD's garden? -
Message 21
Posted by Pumpkin_Patch_Paul (U14565900) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
GOOGLE!!! Whatever next only common people and those that use Chinese made spades use that..........
Never mind.....I tried your suggestion and it dissolved this is wonderfull news because I have two big boxes of the stuff.
So thank you Obelixx for your tip and others may find it helpfull as well (another reason not to use google)
Toms two seeds 3inch pot then pot on once more.
Roses,yes the fungi stuff was my moan...
Regards...PPP -
Message 22
Posted by Pumpkin_Patch_Paul (U14565900) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
You didn't tell me to google did you Sue!...Of course not you are a very polite and well mannerd person that trys to help others..
Well thank you for the link I did not even know the stuff existed,I now have three things in my garden that Monty does.A black bucket and two carboard boxes full of celluose foam...Happy days.
Regards PPP -
Message 23
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
There have been many accusations here aimed at Toby Buckland for the lack of respect for his tools.
Well, I don't think I've ever seen such a glaring example as Mr Don's use of his lawnmower for chopping-up his compost...did anyone notice the state of it when he had finished with it?
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Message 24
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
>Mr Don's use of his lawnmower for chopping-up his compost.<
Aye, and no eye protection, ear defenders, hard hat and leather gauntlets.
And did you SEE that machete left embedded in that post. No risk assessment done! Shocking! -
Message 25
Posted by honestGreengrass (U11104227) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
Hi PPP,
What's your moan with the Mycorrhizal fungi?
I've used it for the first time this year on potatoes, strawberries and roses, initially with an open mind...
I'm honestly stunned by the results... The half bed of potatoes I treated are at least twice the size of the untreated and my roses have never looked healthier. I've never seen my strawberries look so healthy either, with loads of flowers and setting fruits.
There's so much science published as well to show these beneficial microbes really do work that I'm afraid to say I'm now a true believer and will be using the stuff for ever more!! -
Message 26
Posted by floraltips (U14757778) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
Maybe we should google everything then we wouldn't have to talk to each other....ever !!
Googled my query earlier and didn't get the answer so I'm off now to the "sweet pea" thread to ask David K.
To keep on topic, I only caught bits of GW this week but what I did see I liked. -
Message 27
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
>Mr Don's use of his lawnmower for chopping-up his compost.<
Aye, and no eye protection, ear defenders, hard hat and leather gauntlets.
And did you SEE that machete left embedded in that post. No risk assessment done! Shocking!Ìý
I was more concerned about the wellbeing of the lawnmower than him! -
Message 28
Posted by kfgray (U14470933) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
There have been many accusations here aimed at Toby Buckland for the lack of respect for his tools.
Well, I don't think I've ever seen such a glaring example as Mr Don's use of his lawnmower for chopping-up his compost...did anyone notice the state of it when he had finished with it?
No expensive piece of equipment should ever be abused this way.
Ìý I should think the lawmower company is puting a warning on every one as we write. Do not use on your compost heap! One stone trapped in the roots bang go's the blade and most likely an eye. -
Message 29
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
I'm not sure what sort of lawnmower it was. Certainly wasn't a cylinder and didn't look like a rotary either - nothing coming out of the back. Controls were more like a rotovator. Perhaps it was a flail mower?
Either way - an odd suggestion for a mass market gardening programme, to drive a petrol mower into your compost bin. -
Message 30
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
To me it seemed to be a petrol driven rotary self-propelled mower without the grassbox fitted.
I've lost count of the number of times I've highlighted dubious advice given by these so called 'professionals', but few have been dangerous. -
Message 31
Posted by Toadspawn (U2334298) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
I am surprised that someone with such a large garden does not have a large shredder to handle the considerable amount of plant material that is produced during a growing season.
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Message 32
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Saturday, 23rd April 2011
Spreading out your soft compostable material on a piece of spare ground and mowing over with a rotary it is not a bad idea - been done before on GW. Saves the investment of a separate shredder.
It was the pushing it steeply uphill into the compost bin that sent my eyebrows somewhat skyward. -
Message 33
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
>One stone trapped in the roots bang go's the blade and most likely an eye<
Yep, I hope the ´óÏó´«Ã½ will see sense and broadcast an apology before the next GW. -
Message 34
Posted by Ken Smart (U1158196) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
>One stone trapped in the roots bang go's the blade and most likely an eye<
Yep, I hope the ´óÏó´«Ã½ will see sense and broadcast an apology before the next GW.Ìý For goodness sake Colin, the man was simply illustrating a novel way of chopping up some heavy 'waste'. I hardly think that in an adult programme, we have to suffer the 'don't stick your hand or foot under the mower' type of warning. Similarly, I think most people would take it as read, that anyone should ensure that there are no boulders or bricks in the compost bin before starting this task. Personally, I'm too fond of my mower, to subject it to the compost heap, but it's not the first time I've spread vegetable waste out on the lawn, and chopped it up with the mower. The usual complaint about Monty is that he's too reserved, but as soon as he get's more adventurous, he attracts criticism. Is it not just nice to have an intelligent man, and a splendid gardener, talking to us once again on a friday night? -
Message 35
Posted by Oldends (U13875463) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
During the next week or so we'll be pulling out all the forgetmeknots, plonking them on the lawn and then, with my electric rotary mower set on its highest cut, shredding them before dumping them on the compost heap. Done it for years and had no problems. Best done when the lawn does need mowing, After shredding the FMKs, reset the mower to its normal setting and mow the lawn. Saves raking up the debris left on the lawn by the shredding.
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Message 36
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
Please note also that this first collecting bin was narrow and therefore, I assume, designed for collecting stuff to be chomped easily by his mower without scope for chucking missiles out the side as they'd hit the wall. We have to assume also that he's bright enough not to try and compost stones and bricks. I've certainly never found one "growing" in my prunings or kitchen waste.
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Message 37
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
God forbid that we take up what little gardening time there is on TV with lots of H and S warnings.
I really don't want to watch something constantly telling me to not put a fork through my foot (a common injury it seems)
My Dad's advice was good - don't rush at anything, and stop before you are too tired.
Actually that was his decoprating advice as well! -
Message 38
Posted by Pumpkin_Patch_Paul (U14565900) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
Well I hope he checks for wildlife before he starts,I mean Mr Hedgehog or frog/toad are kipping after slug hunting are going to get a rude awakening also as somebody stated he must have a shredder for a garden that size..
I am also suprised he doesn't seem to keep chicken's he just seems the sought that would...
Still a good show though!!
PPP. -
Message 39
Posted by kfgray (U14470933) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
Hi PPP,
What's your moan with the Mycorrhizal fungi?
I've used it for the first time this year on potatoes, strawberries and roses, initially with an open mind...
I'm honestly stunned by the results... The half bed of potatoes I treated are at least twice the size of the untreated and my roses have never looked healthier. I've never seen my strawberries look so healthy either, with loads of flowers and setting fruits.
There's so much science published as well to show these beneficial microbes really do work that I'm afraid to say I'm now a true believer and will be using the stuff for ever more!!Ìý if you think fungi are good try Azomite I put it around every thing in garden in Feb except hydrangers which seem not to care for it. My roses are about twice there normal size and strong thich growth and the blossom's on the fruit trees were much larger. -
Message 40
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
anyone who 'loses an eye' whilst composting deserves to lose the other. this cotton gloves approach to seemingly every aspect of life is now unbearable.
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Message 41
Posted by cufcskim (U14483815) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
Google, oh how common. Clearly one should ask Jeeves.
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Message 42
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
God forbid that we take up what little gardening time there is on TV with lots of H and S warnings.
I really don't want to watch something constantly telling me to not put a fork through my foot (a common injury it seems)
My Dad's advice was good - don't rush at anything, and stop before you are too tired.
Actually that was his decoprating advice as well!Ìý
I think you're missing the point slightly, Nooj
Whether you are a professional footballer or the nations head gardener you are a role model and have the responsibility to set a good example.
How many more times do I need to say it? Stop giving bad advice! -
Message 43
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
Allright David - I know you are still cross with me for not sowing my sweetpeas in autumn!!!!!
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Message 44
Posted by pjgolf (U2469936) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
"I am also suprised he doesn't seem to keep chicken's he just seems the sought that would."
I havent seen the chickens on this series but in his book "the complete Gardener" he has chickens in his home garden. If there was a section relating to this on Gardeners world, it would probably get some critisism (as with most things he does) -
Message 45
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
Allright David - I know you are still cross with me for not sowing my sweetpeas in autumn!!!!!Ìý
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Message 46
Posted by Sue Hall (U13984403) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
Well, I thought it was good on the whole...............
and here's the 'but' bit! .................
*deep breath*
but I do find GW very southern-centric, regardless of who is presenting it. F'rinstance, Monty was talking about planting tulips at the end of January. Huh, January, I ask you! We were still waiting for the ground to defrost in these parts to replace the water pipes that had all frozen just before Christmas. we had the last snows in March. Also, just looking at how advanced Monty's blossom-laden apple trees were compared to mine made me realise that Spring obviously starts on a different date in Montyland.
Beechgrove really should be a national broadcast!
And another thing, Monty's compost bins are about the size of my garden. I therefore have teeny-tiny council-issue dalek types. I tried the lawnmower-in-the-compost-bin trick in my dalek; after I had extricated the jammed mower from the top of the bin I had to put both in the local skip.
Monty, please think carefully about how your public will interpret your suggestions!
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Message 47
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Sunday, 24th April 2011
He certainly keeps, or kept, ducks with the chickens although I can't recall if th pond got dug. Don't forget Long A is 20 separate areas so the Donster gardens on a different scale to most of the GW audience.
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Message 48
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Monday, 25th April 2011
i think you should think carefully about how you interpret sound , common sense ideas. who knew that getting a job done easily and effectively with a mower would create such a pathetic viewer response. sad. sad. sad. indicative of the troubles, cotton gloves era we live in .....sounds like some are too scared to actually live at all. after all, living is the biggest killer of them all.
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Message 49
Posted by pjgolf (U2469936) on Monday, 25th April 2011
Well said Darren.
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Message 50
Posted by kfgray (U14470933) on Monday, 25th April 2011
Up in the artic are you Ms , poor you. I think like clipping the box at the wrong time this is another example of Montys fingers crossed gardening style. But if you have been reading the threads, there is infact much complaining that in fact his garden is rather the behind much of the south east and central UK. I am on level with Monty, but in the east and suffer vile east winds . But my apples are set and swelling. Hope spring comes to you soon
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