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Monty Don-. The Return of the King
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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by Derek Pig (U14833635) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
Absolutely loved watching Monty on Friday- i don't see how anyone can watch him without a smile on their face which is why i watch telly- not so that I can get angry about something. I go to shopping malls when i want to get angry or alternatively. hit my self with a hammer.
The speculation about a conspiracy is fantastic- it might just be that most people like him. and as Darren p saysd somewhere, this is a meandering backwater messageboard of very little significance to very many people. It is visited occassionally by irate ex-wing commanders, pedants and people with nothing to be angry about (so they're angry about nothing).
Some people who dont have high blood pressure and dont read the telegraph as a form of self harm, they just like Monty Don and want to say "thanks" to him.
But was that Lord lucan in the Lupins on fridays programme.... or am i talking out of my hat... but theres a rabbit in it.... I'm sure i've seen this rabbit before in a tunnel in Paris.. where was Monty Don in August 1997.... in the twin towers?.... or visiting aliens on the moon?
Good show Monty- the vast majority of people just enjoy it. keep it up- excellent series so far. -
Message 2
Posted by Stressed out (U11163734) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
The program is an absolute disgrace. Why they had him back I do not know. Perhaps it was fondness for an old battered and scruffy pair of slippers.
Its going down hill again and it won't be long before he is gone
Next Friday will e the beginning of the end -
Message 3
Posted by Pumpkin_Patch_Paul (U14565900) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
Never understand people that "Thank" the ´óÏó´«Ã½ for it's output or presenters, if you live abroad and pay nothing for a licence fee then I can see why.
I enjoyed Fridays programme I thought it was a good watch but a "thank you" not as long as I am forced to pay a licence fee... -
Message 4
Posted by cufcskim (U14483815) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
You're not forced to pay the licence fee, you CHOSE to have a TV in your home.
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Message 5
Posted by Derek Pig (U14833635) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
thanks for the positive answer RowanCottage!
However I canot agree. while I was very fond of the old presenters, I think GW is getting better and better and i look forward to bnext friday for the next episode.
now i started off on conspiracy theories... so what do you mean about the beginning of the end being next friday? Is this apocalypse? the rapture? the coming of thr antichrist?
Imagine if it was the end of the world, one of you would spend the last few minutes putting the last post on the website
"well, thanks very much Monty! there was NOTHING on GW about how to garden after the apocalypse! I don't know why i bother paying my license fee. i've a jolly good mind to stop. GRRRRR" -
Message 6
Posted by Derek Pig (U14833635) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
"Never understand people that "Thank" the ´óÏó´«Ã½ for it's output or presenters, if you live abroad and pay nothing for a licence fee then I can see why.
I enjoyed Fridays programme I thought it was a good watch but a "thank you" not as long as I am forced to pay a licence fee..."
Thankyou PPP!
I bought a paper this morning and while I'd rather not give anyone my money, i still said thankyou to the lady in the shop. One of the reasons for this is that i'm basically polite. Also, it is absolutely free to say thankyou- has never cost me a penny and I've said thankyou to dentists, miserable bus drivers, ticket inspectors, trafic wardens... tye liost fgoe son, never caused me any pain or suffering. A I was dragge dup on a council estate so well done my mum for making me emerge with such impecable manners.
the BBc wouldn't exist without the license fee. having the license fee means it remains independant of advertisers, product placement and to some degree, celebrity over saturisation. Imagine it without the independance..
"Hey Ant, this Monsanto weedkiller is wor mint!"
"hang on there Dec bonny lad, I'm just asking wor cheryl wot her favourite tree is"
"ha ha Ha Ha ha!"
EWhen the real press barons are so shamelessly avoiding paying anuy tax and are filling our screens with more and more dribbling running green doo-doo, to be refusing to be polite because you have to pay for something strikes me as an indefendable position. -
Message 7
Posted by Stressed out (U11163734) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
Joey Shakes:
now i started off on conspiracy theories... so what do you mean about the beginning of the end being next friday? Is this apocalypse? the rapture? the coming of thr antichrist?
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For me the anti-christ of gardening returned when the ´óÏó´«Ã½ brought back the Don
Judgement day will be next Friday at 8pm -
Message 8
Posted by Pumpkin_Patch_Paul (U14565900) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
You bought a paper.....Tell me did you have to buy any of the others to be allowed to read the one you bought.
Why the hell should have to pay the ´óÏó´«Ã½ before I can watch any other TV station pheraps we should all pay Dyson a fee if we want to own a different brand of vacume cleaner.
Shakes you are a ´óÏó´«Ã½ brown noser and a busy fool.. -
Message 9
Posted by Derek Pig (U14833635) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
Great Stuff Triple P!
you're clearly a rogue wit and not a man to mess with i'll be sure!
the irony of course is that you are a prolific user of this web site and watcher of ´óÏó´«Ã½ programmes... aren't you, or we'd not be having this scintilating duel.
I think its rightt that people who go to public schools should still finance state ones. I think its right that people who use private health care should still subsidise the NHS. The rich should pay more. And it is vital for our public service broadcaster to remain publicly funded, or all the air waves will be full of Fox News and Geordie Shore. Or Britney does Gardening.
Thanks for the cheap abuse as well! Great work! -
Message 10
Posted by Derek Pig (U14833635) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
Hi Rowan Cottage!
if you think gardening has an anti christ- a symbol of abomination, evil, dread , fear and death- and you think that this apparition of Hell is manifested in an affable guy in cords who smiles his way through a tv show on a friday night, then i think you should stop gardening as it is bad for your health.
my honestly given advice is that you take up something else where you are unlikely to see evilness or doom; perhaps knitting scarves for the blind childrens orphanage?
get real! Monty's just this nice bloke doing a good job in the garden!
I can't begrudge him that. -
Message 11
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Monday, 6th June 2011
I find the comments on this discussion rude and at times downright abusive and those responsible should hang there heads in shame- it is ok to express your opinion but is there any need for such vitrilol- internet bullying is not nice and a peaceful pastime as gardening or watching tv should in no way attract such comments - you may like or dislike Monty- that is hardly the issue- and I say if you can't present your opinions in a coherent and polite way then this may not be the forum for you.
Geoff
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Message 12
Posted by Mycowaz (U14848091) on Monday, 6th June 2011
Noooooo.... calm down Mr Dog
its just good old fashion debating, people are allowed to disagree on things, thats the whole point of having discussion forum such as this.
Zam -
Message 13
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Monday, 6th June 2011
Noooooo.... calm down Mr Dog
its just good old fashion debating, people are allowed to disagree on things, thats the whole point of having discussion forum such as this.
Zam
Ìý Thankyou for your comment- I agree nothing wrong with debate - just act a bit more civilised and not trade insults like a bunch of hooligans- I am sure contributors on this messageboard are very nice people- kind to animals and children -it is just it all comes over like road-rage- very angry and unnecessary-I'm off now for a soothing cup of tea and a hob-nob!!
Geoff
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Message 14
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Monday, 6th June 2011
In years past the boards used to get like this in winter - I suspect because we couldn't work off a lot of energy outside - but it's busy out there - so that's where I'm going
(I tend to avoid children once they can talk - babies are lovely though) -
Message 15
Posted by Mycowaz (U14848091) on Monday, 6th June 2011
Well to be honest Mr Dog, I secretly suspect that Joey Shakes is a bit of a hooligan, and is probably not to keen on children and animals.
But.....he does like Monty Don, and seems to know a lot about the antichrist so I think we should stay on the right side of him!!
Personally I believe if the antichrist were to re-visit this world someone like Monty Don would be the perfect disguise....weilding evil and misery onto the unsuspecting gardening public....it ceratinly seems that way when I switch on the Tv on a friday evening. Does anyone on the message board know anything about exorcisim (watching the film doesn't count I'm afraid)
Zam xx -
Message 16
Posted by Stressed out (U11163734) on Monday, 6th June 2011
Joey Shakes:
if you think gardening has an anti christ- a symbol of abomination, evil, dread , fear and death- and you think that this apparition of Hell is manifested in an affable guy in cords who smiles his way through a tv show on a friday night, then i think you should stop gardening as it is bad for your health.
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My original post has no religious overtones. Only when you replied did I poke a bit of fun at your religious references. Gardening is good for my health, Gardeners World under it current stewardship is not. I just want to see the back of the Don - just like I did first time round.
my honestly given advice is that you take up something else where you are unlikely to see evilness or doom; perhaps knitting scarves for the blind childrens orphanage?Ìý
I think you mean 'visually impaired' - and I feel I could have another use for the knitting needles
get real! Monty's just this nice bloke doing a good job in the garden!
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your judgement is impaired on so many levels........................... -
Message 17
Posted by Stressed out (U11163734) on Monday, 6th June 2011
Zamiaceae:
Does anyone on the message board know anything about exorcisim (watching the film doesn't count I'm afraid)
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I know a lot about driving in sharpened stakes -
Message 18
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Monday, 6th June 2011
You sound a bit cross RC.?
Didn't the henbane gerrminate?? -
Message 19
Posted by Stressed out (U11163734) on Monday, 6th June 2011
Nooj
Actually I am really happy - only one thing makes me cross and that's the Don. I was hoping someone would nail him too one at Easter but all I got was an egg. Proof that god does not exist, for me at least. -
Message 20
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Monday, 6th June 2011
RC - your last comment was bang out of order. I think a swift apology/retraction is called for.
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Message 21
Posted by Stressed out (U11163734) on Monday, 6th June 2011
I thought I had hit the nail on the head - bang on
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Message 22
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
I agree Trillium
I was going to complain to mods but its as well to let it stand - it manages to be offensive on several levels.
Best let people see what truly offensive posts are like, and who is posting them
This goes far beyond banter. -
Message 23
Posted by Pumpkin_Patch_Paul (U14565900) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
Well it was alright for Toby to be sacrafised for the gardening sins of others....
PPP. -
Message 24
Posted by Mycowaz (U14848091) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
Hey Nooj....personally I love a bit of argy bargy! Think you need to relax a bit.... pressing the compalint button everytime you see something you don't like is'nt exactly in the spirit of the board!
If you don't like what you read...ignore the thread, its quite simple really. -
Message 25
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
I refer all the honourable members to what I said yesterday-there are people who do get offended even if nothing is meant by a throwaway comment- but if a discussion is headed "Return of the King" this is bound to attach hostile reaction and that is probably what was intended anyway- however I am with Zam on this one- now can some-one make it all go away! please!
Geoff<
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Message 26
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
That's what i said - I wouldn't press the complaint button!
As in would not....?
I wish someone would make it all go away as well - I suppose we have to wait until the next programme
Ho hum -
Message 27
Posted by Mycowaz (U14848091) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
why make it go away?? its great fun!! -
Message 28
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
ralph macchio.
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Message 29
Posted by Mycowaz (U14848091) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
all we need now is another esoteric post by Joey Shakes!!
where are you Joey??? .... -
Message 30
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
ralph macchio.Ìý ???
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Message 31
Posted by Mycowaz (U14848091) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
an esoteric post from Darren P!!
love it! -
Message 32
Posted by Derek Pig (U14833635) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
Hi Folks
im amazed that there is such antipathy towards a good man who presents a tv show about gardening- how on earth can anyone get so bitter about this? People i know who've met him haven't a bad word to say about him. He does exactly whats required of hhim in that role.
Now I know some people are very bitter about ralph macchio- with his unseamly young face and good looks, i could understand somepeople being angry if he presented GW. But he doesn't. He'll always be the Karate Kid and i for one am sure that while he could wax on and wax off your garden shed, he knows nowt like as much as King Don does about sweet peas and the like. I'd be happy for Monty to tend my allotment- If i had one- but i'd never let a young looking fraek of nature like macchio near it.
i think everyone should cool down and just enjoy watching gW- Monty is a brilliant presenter.
I'm a gardener, I've always been a gardener and I hate my job. Its really really nice to see someone who enjoys their job and does such a good job at cheering me up- reminds me why i picked such a miserable lowly paid career in the first place, and anyone who can do that is spot on in my book.
more power to the King! -
Message 33
Posted by Pumpkin_Patch_Paul (U14565900) on Wednesday, 8th June 2011
Enjoy their job! Give anybody £100,000 plus to do 15 minutes of gardening from their own garden every other week for a few months and they would look happy as well..............
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Message 34
Posted by Mycowaz (U14848091) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
Joey, perhaps ralph macchio might be a good replacement if and when Monty (the King) calls it a day due to low view numbers.
...what do you think??
might atract a whole new audience?
Zam -
Message 35
Posted by cufcskim (U14483815) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
Perhaps Aunty should hire a few from these boards, they're always harping on about how it should be done. Then again, they can't agree either.
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Message 36
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011
An old chestnut I know!!-but what is the logic for the ONLY national topical garden programme going off for four weeks at the height of the season
. Still ITV still has AT but that could be broadcast any time of year so is hardly topical.
Thank goodness for BG to keep real gardeners informed
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Message 37
Posted by rlc22 (U14924593) on Monday, 4th July 2011
The program is an absolute disgrace. Why they had him back I do not know. Perhaps it was fondness for an old battered and scruffy pair of slippers.
Its going down hill again and it won't be long before he is gone
Next Friday will e the beginning of the endÌý Now they've ruined the Hampton Court coverage by putting Monty Don on there. I started watching GW again when Toby Buckland was presenting (hadn't watched since Alan left) and have stopped again with the self righteous Mr Don in charge.
Why don't the ´óÏó´«Ã½ just bite the bullet and put someone with universal popularity at the head, such as Joe or Rachel? BTW, I think ITV's Love Your Garden is great.
OK, I'm probably not GW's targetr viewer as I'm under 40, not particularly organic and have a degree in Horticulture!
Come on ´óÏó´«Ã½. Gardening should be fun, not a boring lecture... -
Message 38
Posted by Derek Pig (U14833635) on Tuesday, 5th July 2011
Hi rlc22
if youve a degree in horticulture then i'm suprised you're watching these at all. Is it one of those garden design degrees? Some of the best lectures i ever had on systematics and structural botany were very boring in their delivery but fantastic in their content.
These are light entertainment programmes and should be viewed as such. I wouldn't let Lloyd Grossman knock up a lentil burger for me but i love seeing him on telly, doing anything; he could present a programme on how to make a tea bag and i'd watch it. Class act.
However, my real concern is WHY someone under 40 is in watching the telly of a friday night? Shouldnt you be down the pub? -
Message 39
Posted by Mycowaz (U14848091) on Tuesday, 5th July 2011
Hey Joey....
what do you do on a friday night?? Im guessing you record the King for viewing later!
Zam -
Message 40
Posted by Derek Pig (U14833635) on Wednesday, 6th July 2011
Hi Zambooza!
i like to prepare properly for gW. i usually rush home as early as i can and get tea out of the way first. I then like to get a giant egg timer i bought from a flea market and set it going when there are 26 minutes to go before the programme starts. Unfortunately, its a 26 minute egg timer. i imagine thats soft boiling for a small dinosaur egg or hard boiling an elephant egg, if they laid them.
But i do like ritual and procedure in my life. Would you like to know more? -
Message 41
Posted by Ariadne Knickerbocker (U4534559) on Wednesday, 6th July 2011
Hi Joey
I have to say I felt you were being a little ageist suggesting that only people under 40 go down the pub on a Friday night.
I do agree with you about ritual and procedure though. I think this is why we all enjoy watching Gardener' World on a Friday night. It is a constant in an ever changing world. Except for the fact that they did change it quite a bit when Toby was on... but then having Monty back was like finding an old pair of slippers that once belonged to Alan Titchmarsh.
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Message 42
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Wednesday, 6th July 2011
but then having Monty back was like finding an old pair of slippers that once belonged to Alan Titchmarsh.
TatiÌý
...and look what's happened to him! -
Message 43
Posted by Mycowaz (U14848091) on Wednesday, 6th July 2011
tell us more Joey....tell us more!!!!
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Message 44
Posted by Derek Pig (U14833635) on Wednesday, 6th July 2011
Hi Zam and tati
Do you think i should start another thread about GW viewers routines so as not to go off topic? In answer to your request, here goes..
My friend dave visits maybe three times a year. We always do the same four things. We feed the ducks in the park, we go to the flea market where i bought the 26 minute eggtimer, we watch the first half of full metal jacket and i cook the same meal (cabbage and red lentil dall, home made samosa, vegetable madras with rice and condiments) and we drink like vikings.
I also usually have a drama when he arrives. last time, he arrived and the house was in darkness. the front door was ajar and when he came in, the lights were not working. Someone had knocked it off at the fuse box. He came intot he parlour and saw a figure sat next to the open window. the man wasnt looking at him but was earnestly smoking a cigarette and staring out of the window. He was dressed in a Turkish costume wearing a Fez.
The time before I had my tutu on and was dancing to Minnie the Mooch.
David K. seal pups make good slippers and everyone still likes them.
salute!
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