John
Jersey has the capacity to move forward. refs and the pitches are far superior to that of a similar standard in England. There is also the ability of players in the island to compete in/with England. I don't think that it can be simply a Jersey team entered into English leagues as this would ruin the Jersey set up further. Teams could possibly be entered into cups within England, it is simply finance which is needed. The biggest issue blocking forward movement is the lack of fans, many games are played with a handful of people watching. In whatever bussiness this is a faliure and no profit can be made at all. We first need the crowds to turn up to generate finance but how can this happen?
jo smith
jeresy football has the chance to be an inpegnable fortess in the uk leauge all the other teams would have to travel to the mighty springfieled at the moment the is no clear websites for jeresy supporters no dierection in the game the local parish leauges are a joke and fixtures and results prove this the biggest game of the year for any jersey fan is gurnesy and it shouldnt be that way. in my opinion we should start in the confronce divison learning the trade and changing for the leauge cups in england
charlie smith
jersey would not be able to compete at any higher level,it is as simple as that.Anyone with slight knowledge of the game could tell you.I agree with kev mc carthy, brodie and brown would be first names on team sheet regardless of age.To many jealous heads on the island think they are better than they are.
john bloomer
I think that they should become the channel islands international team and it doesnt matter if we win or lose but we would compete and people would have someone to support it could help all the islands.I know alot of people agree with me.
Jason Benest
ih it jason benest i could like to see jersey football club in the next word cup. it wolud be good for the jersey
Claire (Host)
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Dave
Jersey should unite to form channel islands like the fareo islands and enter for major competions.
Guernsey
A Guernsey Man for Jersey Manager - us Guern's will show u how it's done!!!! Ha Ha!! T@sser's!!!
Mark Cruickshank
The way forward is to join UEFA and then FIFA. Small countries such as Liechtenstein and San Marino are already benefitting from UEFA/FIFA money, and the exposure their clubs receive in European competition can only be something good, as well as exciting. Jersey for the qualifying rounds of Euro 2012. Italy at Springfield anyone? Hope to see Guernsey and Isle of Man there too....
Reader
I have just read all these comments and can't believe the things being said. I think it is quite noticeable that the same people are making alot of these comments and they either a. dont have much of a clue of jersey football as a whole b. have not got much talent and are "bigging up" friends and family. I think they need to spend more time concentrating on themselves and less on the computer. They are making the whole thing a laughing stock and causing friction between as many people and clubs as possible.
Rio
Was the reason Jersey decided against joining UEFA because they would not be able to play in UK competitions? If that was the case what would people prefer to be part of?
K Mc Carthy
Brodie would always be in the team until he is ready to retire so whoever the Jersey fan is he no's nothing about football,Alan Brown he would no get a game for Scottish Reserves so you defiantely no nothing leave your name you coward,are you not getting your game and you are jelous about Brodie and Browns ability.
Matt
Why not team up with guernsey and join uefa and fifa and compete on the world stage bring champions league football to the islands the same way it has to the faroes
Jersey Fan
what juniors?
Re: Jersey Fan
where's john fitzmaurice?
Jersey Fan
Would not include Brodie and M Brown, just because of age, think its time for a change. Subs would probably be J Beetson,C Russell,S Devlin,C Hickling and D Le Roux.
Re: Jersey Fan
probably not a bad choice, who on the bench then?
i don't think marcus bailey and dominic maher are island quality, kev crowell i don't rate much either. there are some juniors i'd pick ahead of them.
Jersey Fan
To be honest the Jersey Team could/should be picked from Scottish and Trinity, how does this sound?
Styles,Brown,Lloyd,Andre,Duxbery,Watson,Andrews,Dodds,Leitch,Craven,Crick.
Re: Jersey Bean is having a LAUGH!!
Actually the reason they left is cos they didnt like him From Mad dog
Suggs
NOBLE FOR JERSEY!!!!!
Re: Jersey Bean is having a LAUGH!!
Reading both your comments, I think you're the one having a laugh and not the Jersey Bean. Having been involved in local football for many a year, I've got to know both players, managers and senior members involved in Jersey Football. I've heard that the reason certain players left St Paul's is that over the past few years it was the players who decided what training would be and the players who decided what team would play and not the managers. In other words, they had it far too easy for far too long.
With Tony Hoyland coming in or any manager for that fact, things were bound to change and that is what happened and that is why players left. All of a sudden, from having it their own way they found themselves being coached and told what to do, which they couldn't handle.
Enough about that, I'm sure that this forum was designed to comment on the path that Jersey Football should go down and not bad mouth players or clubs.
From: A Jersey Football Fan
Island player.
I cant believe the team that Vincenti has picked for Saturday Kevin Crowell Scott Walsh Dominique Mayer
Syles is on the bench whos kidding who here,Danny Craven left wing with a right foot mmmmmmmm Ross Crick up front on his own Luke Watson on the bench
( Bring your mirror Luke)we will see how long hes stays manager im running a book.
Jersey Bean is having a LAUGH!!!
Who are you kidding Jersey Bean why do you think the players that signed for st pauls left??? Its because of your best mate Hoyland. Stu had never played for any other team before this season. Why do you think that five first team players left, several ressies players and even a man hoyland brought in as a keeper coach left? Hmmm think about it sunshine...
S.JONES
Some people who write some of these comments should leave their names if they are going to bad mouth players or clubs . They can talk rubbish and lies if dont have to leave their name. If they have a point to make they should bring it up with the clud or player . I dont belive it is fair that they can say what they like and not have a BACKBONE to say who they are! Some players make mistake's and maybe do get cautioned to much, this does not mean they are thugs or lookin for a reputation . In my eye's i see it as determination to win and givin all you have on the day.Some times mistake's happen with bad tackles or swearing through fustration,its a mans game though, and with 22 players all wantin to win and put all they can into it, these things happen
Georgios Orfanidis/Salonika-GREECE
Jersey should join UEFA as an associate member.That would allow you to participate in certain competitions and make reasonable progress at both club and national level.
AFC
To many personalities and egos in Jersey football. Any working party
/ review on local football should not be conducted by people already
involved in running it (or ruining it as the case may be).
To many ex Jersey players, some of whom forget they were just that i.e. Jersey
players not internationals or superstars.
Instead, look at the current crop of junior players and then look at the people and
coach鈥檚 that have brought them on, that鈥檚 where the future lies. Anything else
will just be a rehash of what we鈥檝e got.
The present administration has done well over the years, although it鈥檚 struggled
in recent years and is now past it鈥檚 sell by date. Now is the time for fresh minds,
new ideas and innovation. Sadly, I believe we鈥檒l be having the same discussion
in five years time.
Who is St Pauls f.c?
Why don't you leave your name when you start calling people behind their backs! Did you not get a game when he was a St Pauls.
What records can you talk about this season! The team to get the least points? If some of your players played the game the way Trinity put the effort & passion in then maybe you won't get relegated.
Come on you Trinog's
Philip Freed
Jersey football should remain Jersey football. There is no shame in the level of Jersey players. Every player tries to be the best he can be - and that's the spirit of the game.
Philip Freed
ex St. Pauls FC - 1958
Imp
Most of you have made some really intelligent and valid points, for a bunch of football fans that's not bad!!! (joking).
I think Jersey should definitely play in a UK league like the Jersey Rugby Club does. That is surely the most sensible way forward. We can work our way up. In a few year's it'll be Jersey at the top of the Premiership!
Standards of the local game...
I think one of the main problems with local football is referees do not have the courage, the conviction, or the support from the JFA to implement the rules and laws of the game. Matches are reduced to 90 minutes of thuggery, highlighted by the recent match being abandoned for brawling, a rare case of a ref making a stand for the good of the game. Football is a tough, physical game, but I feel in Jersey it has gone too far.
If the standard of football is to go up then the players that can play need to be protected by the referee from those who can't - those that are simply there to 'reduce' decent players input in a game.
The game will always have flair players and 'hard' players to love and hate, but the 'spectacle' of football in Jersey is poor. Without the refs there giving up their time our leagues would not go ahead, but if they are not up to the job they should step away. If we do not have enough officials to officiate games properly then we should reduce the numbers and sizes of leagues. Better to have quality rather than quantity.
We are leagues behind the rest of the world in footballing terms. Raise the standard of officiating, implement the laws of the game, erradicate the idiots who pull on a shirt on a Saturday and claim to be 'footballers' and let football win through.
A practical way to do this is gain sponsorship from an Island overflowing with finances and pay referees on a contractual basis. Lets add some professionalism to our leagues.
SOLUTION
well if there is no ammo stick the gun in the bin.. Hoyland is a drain to st pauls football team, sack himw and see the likes of Barker or Begby back in,, at leeast the managment will get respect from the players because they are isalnd legends not someone who has walked out of a fifa school gaining oints from licking arses to get badges!! as for isaland management.. Well in Vincenti, no doubt u can turn the tides in jersey footy.
Mike
to former Jersey player under vincenti. your opion is no longer needed as its a whole new set of players involved and vincenti has been out of the game for about 4 years. how many times will he have watched Grouville or Trinity in the last 4 years and how many names would he know? The game changes and so do the players.
Reebok
It's not the managers, it's the players. Kids have different values nowadays. People like Tony Hoyland fron St Pauls work their nads off for the sport but how can they get anywhere if the kids don't train? There's no point criticizing him. If he aint got any ammo how can he fire it?
Former Jersey player under Vincenti
To the current jersey player. Morley did take over Trinity in division 2 and led them to the upton but Vincenti did the same at Sporting Accies. He's also won 5 senior and 5 u-21 Murrati's in addition to 2 Island game gold medals!!! He later went on to lead St Peter's to become Channel Island champions in addition to other countless club trophies. Well done to Morley and his single upton win!!!+ are you a trinity player?
JFA
Vincentti Named as Island Manager.
current Jersey player (wish to remain anonymous)
Joe Morley is the only candidate deserving of the job and would be the choice of most of the current squad. At this level of football the manager must have the respect and backing of the players. Dave Matthews lost that respect during the past two seasons, training became a chore with little enthusiasm on match days. It is a shame that the JFA do not consider the players first and foremost and will probably go for Vincenti who will have his own agenda. People forget that Morley took over Trinity in Division 2 and eventually won everything there is to win. He is the reason they are an established force in local football. Its about working with players to improve their game and motivating amatuers to want to win.
A Paddy
I was gobsmacked to find out that island players have to pay 拢50 to 拢75 to represent their own league. No wonder players wont turn out for Jersey. When you think Jersey have on average 4 away games a season thats 拢200 quid too much for a player to have to fork out. That includes any of the team who graft on a saturday and have to give up a days wage and thats before he has a drink!!!
I do agree that thhe 2 top teams have ruined the league by signing the top players from the also ran temas of the last few years but here's hoping the youth of Jersey will come through strongly in the next year or two.
As for the island job, unless its a paid position I cant see how the JFA are ever going to attract the right person. There is no incentive for a manager to give up his nights and weekends for little or no thanks at the end of it. But of the lot, get Joey Morley in there - he has the knowledge to run a proper outfit and the respect of anyone with a football brain, most importantly the players and thats what matters, not the top brass at the JFA.
A Jersey Bean
Tony Hoyland should get the job and if so-called Island players don't like it then who cares! Within a couple of months of taking over at St Pauls, Tony won the Charity Cup beating Scottish in the final. Not a bad start for a new manager especially against a team containing so many Island players.
That result is proof that Tony can get the best out of players and I'm sure if the players who signed for St Pauls at the start of the season had stuck with it, they would be challenging for the top 2 or 3 positions in the league.
Players have no say in who the next island manager should or shouldn't be or as to who should be in the squad. At the end of the day, if you don't like whomever the JFA appoint then the simple thing to do is retire from Island football. The standard of local football at the moment has dropped not because the Island team are not playing at a higher level or playing more competitive games, but too many of the so called big time charlies sign for the same 2 clubs (Scottish or Trinity), you can't blame the clubs for signing them, but with the majority of the better players at the same 2 clubs then the standard of Div 1 football is bound to fall.
Look at the Premiership, if the top teams have the best players than the overall standard falls and it is easier for the managers and players to win trophies and titles. If Jose didn't have Roman and his millions, would they be as good as they are? It takes a better manager to win trophies with no so-called "superstars" then a team filled with them.
I would like to see how Bob from Scottish & Joe from Trinity would get on if they had no "superstars" in their teams - and I use the term superstars very loosely but I've no doubt that they think they are, which if that is the case then what are you doing playing in the Jersey Football League.
St Pauls f.c.
Tony Hoyland has no chance for the job and i do agree Joey's Trinity team win most of there games because they are thugs and they always give the match officials a hard time when things are not going there way have a look at there record of bookings and sending offs this season it speaks mountains as for the reserves at the weekend i have heard two sides of the story and i think a member of the Trinity team should be banned for 5 years cause he plays like that in every game even when he was at St Pauls with myself all he wants is a reputation and to be honest he aint a player.
Peter
NOBLE FOR JERSEY!!!!
One Horse Race
Anybody with more than half a brain would see that Peter Vincenti is the logical choice given his track record (warts and all). The other two are not fitt enough to lace his boots. Morley runs a team that wins through intimidation of not only the opposing team but match officals by way of sheer thugery and verbal abuse, whilst Hoyland seems to be able to talk the talk, but when he puts his words into practice he hardly produces the goods, although on this seasons performance with St Pauls it appears that he could find a job in the demolition industry, not many could have dismantled such a promising side in such a short space of time.
As to the future of local football we should not forget that at the end of the day the JFA is there to provide an avenue for all who wish too play not just for the chosen elite, just ask any rugby players who are not considered good enough for the Jersey Rugby CLUB's first team as beneath the elite first fifteen the locl rugby set up is a mess, Football SHOULD NOT follow their lead.
Scottish Boys.
Tony Hoyland should never get the job as he has won nothing,to be honest his coaching is good but his managerial skills are well below par,the man must have a good look at himself as im lead to believe the moral at St Paulsis because the man is not liked, his tactics in the dressing room are ,we are dealing with senior players here and hes hanging peices of paper on the dressing room wall come on Tony give yourself a shake and go back to St Pauls as you dont have a clue be honest with youself (RETIRE).....I would like to see Morley get the job as he liked in the football world.
Jersey Football supporter
Who should and who shouldn't be the island manager has evoked major discussions but the fact is that the job was open to all and those interested and wanted it [and I think that is the important part] applied! So never mind the others the Island manager will come from the 3 candidates. Personally I feel it should be one of the two in present situ with clubs and not someone who has been out of the game for 5 seasons and may have his own agenda. As for the others Morely has a proven track record but it is easy to win when you have most of the better players something Hoyland has had only briefly [didn't St Paul's win the Charity Cup this year?] As for the players leaving St Paul's and there are only 4 main ones that i can think of, perhaps some of it is down to them and not the manager who knows? Not all dirty washing is washed in public!
Morely or Hoyland is a decision the JFA will make personally i think it should be Hoyland, give him a go at least he wants to do it.
As for the comments from alledged players If Hoyland does get it and they dont want him so much as one door closes for old players, another one opens for new players!
Encklebert von humperdink
Surely we should employ someone like.....Mickey Mouse! He has big ears, so he can listen to everyones point of view. He is friendly, so all the players would like him. He is big (I once seen him at Disneyland) so he wouldn't take no rubbish off anyone. He is also got a loving wife who could help the players with oranges at half-time. Yeah, I know he might not have the appropraite 'badges' but Im sure he sells some other gifts in his shop. Last but not least, Donald Duck could come out of retirement and be used in a sort of 'Peter Crouch role'. He would be a quacking addition! EVH
Jersey Rugby supporter
Come up the rugby club - feel the atmosphere at JRC home matches and ask yourself why local football doesn't feel the same..
Rick
What is wrong with the SW Counties cup you ask? I'll tell you - it's provokes such huge local attention that at home games, there aremore media at the games than spectators.
For goodness sake, give Jersey supporters something to support - not playing against the weakest sides that the RAF and the Army can produce......though I agree that attendance at all island games must be a necessity while there's nothing else to excite us....
James
They should compete at international level withiin Europe and see how they do and move on from there. After all we are not part of England or France but we wouldnt be able to because portuguese, scottish people play for Jersey. Many thanks
alan morel
the idea of 'going international' is absolute nonsense ! whatever happens let us please ensure that we stay within the jurisdiction of the English F.A. and develop the game along the lines of their many positive initiatives. As far as representitive football is concerned, what is wrong with our settling for participation in such as the SW Counties Cup. And perhaps we should concentrate on ensuring that we participate in every 'Island Games Competition'!
Goldenballs
Tony Hoyland would be a bad bad bad choice as Island manager. Although he has coaching badges he's not a good coach. Look what he's done to St Pauls why do you think it was that so many of us left?? Plus after five years at St John's did he win anything??
He's a no for the job, go for joe morley he's someone the players will want to play for.
john felton
have you seen the state of the jersey team at all levels. they always seem to get ripped apart, maybe if i had my chance at u18 level i could show what the senior teams could have and i easily have the ability and talent to progress the senior team. i could be the hero to jersey's rise in football
Concerned Supporter
Jersey are not able to play in a English league format as we are a classed a country!If we are allowed into a French League system i dont see how that will improve football in jersey as our own league system will suffer as all the better players will be in the jersey squad and would not be allouwed to play in two leagues!
The only route in my opinion is the Euro Championships and World Cup !
As for selecting the Manager in most countrys the ruling body ie JFA in this case, would pick who they wanted, not hope the right person applies!and it should be a payed position!
Who is to say that the applicants are currently the best in the Island at the moment? If you look at the three main candidates!
Joe has done well at Trinity and would get the respect of the players but has not got the required coaching badges!
Tony to be fair is not proven and it has to be said, why are so many players leaving St Pauls?
Pete whos record is second to none,has been out of the management scene for a few years and that would be a concern for me!
As i said before if the JFA selected who they wanted to be the next boss then i guess the Scottish and St Peters Managers would come into the picture!
John has done great job at St Peters in the two seasons he has been there and has been involved in proffesional football so has the knowledge!
Bob has also done a great job at the scottish and has one the league 2 out of 3 years since he has been there and has a great chance of wining again this season! Also he did all the coaching when Ron Harris was Manager so has the experience!
Something needs to be done to bring back the interest in Jersey Football and the support will follow! at the moment the Muratti is the only Island representitive game that Jersey people want to watch, and how can one big game a year hold the publics interest and attract the best applicants in a sport which is being dictated by TV.
Player
Ask Jon Trigg where we can go. With his experience and knowledge I would say he is in the best position to tell us which way to head and at what level we can compete.
footy onlooker
i think that if jersey want to suceed then bring back vincentti, he can sort out the mess that the island team is in, steady the ship then bring in john trigg to take us to the next level. forget about moreley, hoyland and this other fella. jersey should not be a laughing stock, as i think it has been since maccarthy left.
Ben
I still think Jersey FC should join the French league system - it's regional in the lower leagues, and Jersey could play in the French Cup as well. Travelling would be restricted to the NW of France, and shouldn't pose too much of a financial burden. But would the Jersey public come out and watch the home games? Perhaps so, and perhaps one or two of the away games as well. I think, for instance, Jersey v St. Malo is a better spectator draw than Jersey v RAF or The Army as at present.
But my impression is that most people in Jersey don't give a damn about the level at which jersey plays -as you can see from the comments, they're more concerned with who the manager is or isn't..........
unknown
if jersey ever could get into any league or competition, springfield stadium would be a good enought stadiumit is getting recked by kids playing on it
unknown
why cant jersey play iun the confrence south/west
Ben Le Geyt
Why dont they join uefa and fifa and compete in the euro and world cup.then i can cheer on somebody other then england
Island Football Fan
Offer Gazza the job he will bring great media interest, even if its short term, until Martin Cassidy is ready for the post. Surely Cass has the best football brain in Jersy football, now if not ever, he just needs time to get some experience in coaching and training session. His time will come as no one comes close to reading the game like him.
John Trigg & Martin Cassidy to take Jersey to the next level, if they would be interested?
IFF
noreik
Who will be the next Manager is interesting but I thought the question was whether or not Jersey should play international competitions or in an English/French league?
Trinity
Joey Morley is the only man to take Jersey forward. Look at his club record. He has taken this club from the bottom of div 2 to the top of div 1. He gains the respect a Island manager deserves and will take the team further than anyone ever has. There's only one man for the job now give him his chance.
player
how can someone say that Tony Hoyland is a good candidate for the island job?? if he cant progress st pauls and the talent they DID have how will he benefit our island team?? some of the jersey players seem to play when they choose, and the selection of players is weak. more players under the age of 25 need to be given the chance, if players such as matthew swimburn gets his chance i think anybody can!!
St Peters.
It really is time for a change from the top to the bottom. It does nt take much to see that the choice of JFA President is as important as the choice of manager. Although it may be questioned that the standard of Jersey football is not as it was 10 years ago, the influx of young players over the last few years and the potential talent to come through is something the island should not only be proud of but should ensure that this is developed. Players should not have to pay to represent their island and the JFA cannot afford to gamble on the appointment of a manager. Lets have some stability and appoint a tried and trusted manager? Tony Hoyland seems to have struggled with keeping St Pauls better players? Joe Morley has done a great job at Trinity and Peter Vincenti has been there and done it all before? Its gotta be two from three ?
Alan Collas
Jersey would soon find it self out of it's depth if they tried to compete in any serious league in England!
Island Player
with all the money in this island i can't beleive no company would sponsor us, last year we went away 4 times to play and had to pay 拢50 each to go and represent your island, that was as well as getting up at 6 in the morning on the red eye and travelling all day to play a match, not proper preparation.
Terry
I don't think the right people are at the top to take Jersey football further than playing local football.
Jim Baxter & George Best. RIP
Jersey footbal is potentailly in the best state for years, in regards to good Jersey born players. There is a good group of players ready for something special, however this must come from the JFA. They are responsible for not finding a suitable replacement to be Manager since Peter Vincenti. Why dont the JFA ask the current senior island players and the future players, such as Stuart Andre and the likes,for there input or the JFA yet again run the risk under underachieving. Jersey must have the potential to emulate the likes of Faroes Islands and other so could minnows of the football world. So come on, way does someone from the elite JFA panel stand up and have the b**** to make the change and give the players a challenge and for GODs sake pick the correct Manager, coaching staff and medical staff to push Jersey on and upwards.
Football is in danger of becoming the least favourite sport to watch in Jersey. So the answer to your question is YES we can play at a higher level and the players are capable but the key is the Management team, they must have the respect from the players and the players MUST trust the managers decisions. When Jersey have this in place maybe your question will be more realistic. From the current applicants applying for the job I see only one person, Tony Hoyland, to prepare the island players, however he may not be suitable for the topj ob of Manager. That is the key for me and if Peter Vincetti is hunger for the job he gets my vote, but he will need someone who is close to the players age group and personalities to act as a lision between players and management to make it work. GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE PLAYERS IN JERSEY FOOTBALL, I HOPE THE JFA CAN MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE!
Jersey Scottish.
There is'nt enough good players on the rock,i meen come on Alan Brown getting picked for the Island select evertime who's kidding who maybe things will change with a new Gaffer coming in to replace Mathews time will tell i also disagree about having to pay to represent your Country everytime you play away from home i really do think this is something you will have to look into as you can see from the past the players that go away and play for the Island do not play at Springfield to often because all the so called ( Primadonnas )keep them selfs for the home games and the Murrati correct me if im wrong.
ben
why not join a french league? It's regional, isn't it at the lower levels?
If not, let's get involved in some tournaments where we can support our island team, like we did in 1997.
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