“It’s a very, erm, physically demanding, sort of a job, whereas, supervisory and management side, well it’s it’s probably equally as demanding, but, how can I put it - not so physical. When you look at a setter, who is handling 18,000 bricks in an eight-and-a-half-hour shift, and 1,000 bricks weighs nearly three tons, that’s a lot of bricks, a lot of weight to be moving every single day of his life, so, I’m not having to do that. I’m just having to make sure that there are setters down there, that are capable and able to do it and that are there at the right time. I don’t think there has been a lot of change you know, even back to sort of 1900, the erm, we’ve got the same design press now as we had then. The biggest change I suppose was fork lift trucks, so we went from manually handling every brick, to er picking 1,000 bricks up with a fork lift truck and taking them into a, er into a kiln. That’s probably the biggest change. We went from loose blocking to erm strapping the bricks up, and basically that halved the amount of bricks that the blockers were handling, in the course of the day. So it doubled the amount of blockers that the company had to employ. Other than that there’s not been that much of a change.”