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Is Nottingham the best city in the country?
Is Nottingham a great city? Or is going to the dogs?

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09-March-2003
nottingham as its self
welli think nottingham can be ok! but one problem its not one of those citys which are busy and things to do like birmingham. i have lived in nottingham since i was born and i think it can be inproved

insa hussain, nottingham ,england
09-March-2003
Schools in nottingham
I am moving up to Nottingham after 12 years away. Can anybody tell me the names of the schools with the best reputations in and around the Nottingham area? Thanks.

D,

06-March-2003
Reply to Todd
Todd, what exactly was the point of that posting??

Keepin' it Real, UK

05-March-2003
Sure Whatever
yo muh brother from another mother i aint never been to england but... i do know sum peeps from there and there nice i do believe. neways luv yall peace out and of ya Canada rox ur socks!!!

Todd, Nova Scotia/Canada
05-March-2003

nottm is not such a bad place as people make out it is.its great for a good night out and is wicked for shoppin. yes there is alot of crime but i think if there was more police and betta facilities the streets would b alot cleaner,and not full of drugs or violence and it might not be perfect but nowere is.

shann, st annes nottm

05-March-2003
Nottingham Disappointments
I was born and raised in Nottingham, moved to the USA 20 years ago, came back to visit my mother in Nottingham two years ago, and I must say that I was horrified to see how much crime there was, how some of the really nice neighbourhoods have gone totally down hill, and the vast numbers of unemployment. I was really upset that such a lovely City has really gone down so badly.

Rebecca, Naples USA

04-March-2003
Good Point Sara!
In a 'just for fun' pole for the 大象传媒's Comic Relief Nottingham came near the bottom of 10 cities tested for their 鈥楽mile Factor鈥. Basically someone walked around your city, smiled at 100 people and counted how many smiles were returned. I don鈥檛 have the pole in front of me but from memory you guys in Nottingham only smiled back a really pants 18 times out of 100!!!!!!! That put you 7th with only London (no surprise) and Edinburgh (I think) behind you. Bristol returned over 70 smiles per 100 and even Manchester, I鈥檓 proud to say, returned over 50%. Cheer up guys! (If I鈥檝e got the figures wrong please let me know).

Dave, Manchester

03-March-2003
Nottingham
Surely Nottingham isnt as bad as you all say, is it ? The reason i ask is that i was thinking of cruising up there on the canals to Sawley Marina, Has that got high crime rates as well?? Keith

Keith, Hereford

27-February-2003

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Miss Melis, Paris

27-February-2003
Is Nottingham the best city in the country?
According to the 2003 Experian Survey of Retail, we are the 4th best place to shop after London's West End, Glasgow and Leeds, we even rate above Manchester! Make of it what you will......

The Ellusive Blue Jelly Baby!, Nottingham

27-February-2003
Nottingham
Generally i like living in Nottinham but the police force seems so sparse and under funded that there are parts of the city which could be considered completely lawless.a new approach must be adopted if things are to improve. The threat of violence is far too great and having recently spent a weekend in the city i saw far more crime related activity and felt a alot more threatened than six months in north london.are there any initiatives to improve the rapidly deteriorating areas.I live in West Bridgford where there is very little internal crime however the area is now being targeted from the outside through burglaries.It really doesn t matter whether we live in the city of nottingham or in the county.75% of west bridgford people work in the city using the facilities of the city not just that of the county so they have a fair right to comment. i say that i live in Nottingham not Nottinghamshire as that is being far too pedantic.

Nicho, Nottingham

27-February-2003
Nottingham general
I used to live in Nottm, but moved to Edinburgh almost a year ago with my job. I was born and bred in Nottingham and didn't have anything to say about the placce either way, as it was somewhere I had always lived. But in the few years before I moved, I had a lot of trouble where I lived - I lived in Wilford Village (Nottm City boundaries) and it used to have a good reputation, and for 7 years we had no problems. But the last few years saw a lot of mindless burglaries (most people down our road were burgled), burnt out cars left for weeks on my road, joyriding late at night down the dirt road at the back of our old house, constant graffiti on the houses down Main Road, Wilford Village, gangs and yobs hanging outside the house opposite (dealing drugs, spitting and smoking). I kid you not - this area had gone down hill rapidly in just a few years. I was glad to get out of it, and that was supposedly one of the nicer areas of Nottm City! I had neighbours who had lived down th! e road since it was built (in the 1930's) who had become unhappy and frightened to go out at night when the gangs were out. Kids came over the old Toll Bridge from the Meadows and caused trouble. It got so bad that whenever any of my family came to visit, they were worried about leaving their cars outside the house. I stopped going into the City centre years before as I hated the beggars, dirt, pigeon crap and rubbish shops! (I used to go to Meadowhall rather than go to Nottm City Centre) I can honestly say that since moving Up North, it was the best move I ever made, and I have seen things in a different light. I am not saying that it is all good in Edinburgh, as it too has it's good and bad areas, but nothing like the crime statistics of Nottingham. Up here we have 24 hour shopping almost everywhere, good roads and a beautiful city. And the scenery up here is wonderful. What have you got in Nottinghamshire apart from flat fields and gridlocked roads? Even Edinburgh C! ity Bypass isn't as bad as driving on the A52 in the rush hour! My advice to anyone is don't be afraid to move out as it might be the best thing you ever did! Some of my family are moving up North now, and they can't wait to get out of Nottingham!

Vicky, edinburgh

27-February-2003
england in general
I have lived around the world, and I must say, no place has ever compared to England, where else in the world can you get that unique sense of culture? Its like a small community of millions of different people who are free to share and merge all our styles into one. We're free to hate the monarchs and yet love what we've gotten from them. The countryside is beautiful, the people are also beautiful, and different, everythings varied, nothing is ever the same, I embrace that, as an art student I find England one of the most ideal places to live. ahem, but enough hippiness from me, all this fuss over the ideal CITY is beyond me, create the society yourself, pass a smile every now and then, share a friendly conversation and show people that you're not just an arrogrant prick with an unfufilling lifestyle. People in general is what creates the community, not the crappy foundations.

Sara, not known

26-February-2003

My previous postings on this formum I have usually defended Nottingham, but I am now beggining to question whether it has been right to do so. I live in West Bridgford, which is an affluent part of Nottingham, where recently things have got alot nicer, with small things like a town warden and new building projects, however, Much of Nottingham is very different to the pleasant suburbs south of the city. Crime is high, not theft, because it isnt accurate to judge an area on levels of theft, but violent assults etc. This seems to be quite universal throughout Nottinghams northern districts, but also out of town estates like clifton. The City centre of Nottingham as some wonderful architecture, shops and bars, the skyline of Nottingham is also one of the most plesant vistas you can see, looking from Wilford Hill. The Lace Market is trendy and chic, the Victoria centre clean and vast, and the introduction of trams are clearly going to bring about regeneration along its route. The city centre, out of the many I have experianced in the UK is full of beggars, and big issue sellers, which isnt bad, but the beggars are offte! n abbusive and violent, and shouldnt all be disposed with. I spent much of this last week in Edinburgh, which is one of my favourite cities, because of its capital status you would expect a high population of homeless, this isnt the case, I encountered only 3 big issue sellers, who were polite, so i even bought one. The Streets were clean, litter very low and I saw little of the dirty baggy grundgy cloathing that is so prominant in Nottingham. When in London at Christmas I was also supprised, the place was impecably clean, of course this was Westminster, Chelsea, Docklands etc, so you expect this, but i again encounterd very few beggars, considering Londons size and status. I felt safe to let my 17 year old go out, where when he does in Nottingham i often worry, as you do. This was also teh case when in Edinburgh. I think Nottingham is fine if you have the wealth to live in a pleasant part, such as the Park, which for me would be my favourite place to live with elegant roads and panoramic views of Castle Rock, Nottingham however is a city of Contasts, like many. Its problems would be solved with some investement, and a right wing police/security force to hold order. Maybe at hit first ask questions later policy would be better, it must be more effective than the citys current force. I normally get critised about Spelling, so I do apologise for any of you who feel the need to comment upon this.

S.Ocean, West Bridgford

25-February-2003
Nottingham
Sorry the following places are not in the City of Nottingham: West Bridgeford, Arnold, Carlton, Bramcote, Ruddington, Nuthall, Gedling, Beeston and Chilwell. The residents do not pay Council Tax to the City Council to keep the services of the City going. Therefore they cannot be used as examples of good places to live in the CITY of Nottingham. If Nottingham is so good why have the residents of these places campaigned to resist going into the CITY of Nottingham? However, when the threat passes they then are happy to pretend they are from Nottingham!

John,

25-February-2003
Is Nottingham the best city in the country ?
Nottingham has the pottential to be one of the better citys in the UK, but whoever is in control is making a mess of it. The city centre is ok, but seems to have a vagrant problem only bettered by London and the surrounding suburbs are mainly turning into ghettos. I Live in Lenton with a massive student population, yet its still not very welcoming with groups of scally kids hanging around looking for trouble and chanting "we are the Taleban". How is that for an integrated multi-cultural city. Also, the crime rate for such relatively small city is rediculous. On a positive point the older generation of the city are very friendly. On the whole Nottingham only seems to be getting worse.

Mark, Nottingham

22-February-2003
Nottingham
the suburbs are great and really friendly also rather self contained. i personally recommend west bridgford or mapperly park. the city itself however i am not so keen on.too rough .

tom, nottingham
20-February-2003
Is Nottingham the best city in the country ?
...Nottingham is one of the UK's most crime ridden cities. It has far more deprivation than Leeds. Leeds is actually one of the least deprived cities in the UK. In terms of Leeds being backward, it's hardly that when it is in fact officially the UK's fastest growing city. It's the UK's 3rd best shopping destination, above Nottingham. It's a major financial centre. Nottingham is full of deprived council estates - Bestwood, Bilborough, Broxtowe, Clifton to name four. So, there you have it Jim, the truth. Oh, and before you come on here telling me I don't know what I'm talking about - I used to live in Chilwell!

Mark , A city far above Nottingham

20-February-2003
Nottingham
drugs.prostitution.gridlock.violence. shootings.muggings .murders.stabbings.and plain dirt and ignorance.the people of nottingham are not friendly.all i cxan say is i was here over the world cup.never again will i be so stupid.gratuitious yobbish behaviour which was sickening. good luck to all of you who continue to 'inhabit' the place for it certainly can t be described as living.

Kos Newton Ayecliffe CO DURHAM,

20-February-2003
i kinder agree mark
i know nottingham is better than liverpool but nottingham has got alot worse crime than liver pool and alot worse schools.the prolem in liverpool is not the crime its the lack of businesses so people move away from the area thats why there are areas that are very derelict.but nottingham has not got an excuse as it has the jobs yet its still one of the poorest cities {poorer than leeds and newcastle etc}schools believe it or not worse than any other city{check bbc site }and hackney believe it all not.now nottingham is not the worse but its getting worse.its much better than derby though lol.derbys got a worse centre than bulwell market lol.but derby does not have as many run down areas than nottingham its not as deprived its got much better schoolsBUT SORRY DERBY NOTTINGHAM IS SOME HOW ALOT BETTER

max, city of nottingham
20-February-2003
Is Nottingham the best city in the country ?
Nottingham better than Leeds? Don't make me laugh! Let me tell you about Nottingham. It is the 3rd most violent city in the country after London and Manchester, it is among the poorest with high unemployment and dreadful social problems, not to mention the worst schools in the country. I used to live in Nottingham and hated the place. The people are extremely unfriendly and most of the city is horrid. It has the most nightmarish council estates I have ever seen, i.e The Meadows!! This has to the dumbest message on here yet. Nottingham frankly terrifies me, the place is awash with gangs and guns. Scary place! Even the Nottinghamshire countryside is vile, Leeds is about 10 billion times better.

Sandy , Leeds
20-February-2003
Is Nottingham the best city in the country ?
Jim, what planet are you on? Did you not see that humiliating TV programme identifying Nottingham as one of the most violent cities in the UK? (Remember it's only a small city) Leeds, a dump? backward? guh? Leeds is one of the most affluent, progressive cities in the UK with a range of current and future developments far surpassing the 'big town' that is Nottingham. Don't believe your own hype!

Jim Jarmusch , Harrogate
20-February-2003
Is Nottingham the best city in the country ?
Jim, your random comments are laughable and almost beyond the point of comment...Nottingham has one of the highest crime rates among British cities and has far less inward investment than Leeds. Sounds to me like you are a teenager who has never even actually been to Leeds, midduck. Ethnic minorities don't necessarily mean a more diverse culture either, and what about "white" communities of non-british origin such as Italian, Polish, Irish, Spanish etc. The comment "Nottingham is more modern than London" only goes to demonstrate your ignorance and highlight that you're talking a load of rubbish!

Graham Mathieson, Wakefield
20-February-2003
Reply to Dan
OK mate, each to their own, but I bet you lived there as a student. Some aspects of Liverpool are good, but generally it's a pretty dismal city. Fair enough, there's a lot of investment there right now to make it a better city, but unfortunately it has a reputation nationally for being pretty rough, and having lived there, I can see why. I know Nottingham is quite a violent place these days, but at least cosmetically it looks better.

Mark, The North
20-February-2003
To Mark from Newcastle
Yes, you are right. It is the minority spoiling it for the majority. However, the majority have to take some of the blame. If we all want Nottingham to be better, then why don't we insist that this disruptive minority change their attitudes and behaviour. If they are a minority, then don't we have the power of numbers over them? Or am I too naive for words?! Or is it merely a lack of political will in the City Council?

Clare, North of Nottingham,
20-February-2003
Nottingham
A mate from Bramcote told me that Nottingham was originally called 'Snottingham' - I checked this out and it's true! I used to visit it from time to time when I lived in the East Mids. and it does seem to have declined a bit. I live in Birmingham now, and most of the adverse comments I've read on here could apply equally well to Brum: mainstream pubs full of drunks, and unfriendly people, drugs culture etc. If you want to live in a great place then you've got to find a way to make it better in some small way - Try smiling at someone and starting a conversation: they might mistake you for a mugger, but that's their problem! Most cities these days seem full of confused and alienated people, and you don't really get a 'community feeling' from being in a pub any more.

Johnny R., Birmingham
19-February-2003
NOTTINGHAM
It all depends on what we are compared to. For our size and location the facilities are excellent.The atmosphere is however not so. I would sooner live in a safe city than a trendy one.perhaps it has something to do with the endless promenades of bars on every single thoroughfare in the city centre.entertainment and leisure facilioties are without a adoubt fantastic; providing you take out the people in them!!!!!!!!!!! does anyone agree with me that the city is great except the minority-because it is the minority ruining it for the rest of us. do you think it has something to do with the fact nottingham people are reported as having no sense of regional definition in that we are not north or south but somewher in limbo???? i d be interested to hear your views as i m studying sociological theories at uni.

mark newcastle,
19-February-2003
nottingham
I left Nottingham 15 years ago for Queensland. Believe me England is the pits. How anybody can live in a city with muggings, crimes ,rubbish weather and expensive is beyond me.Come to Australia.Great weather great environment wonderful lifestyle. You dont know what u are missing by living in that dump called England

chris, Cairns
19-February-2003
leslie????????
how can you say theres a no crime theres crime everywhere and if you looked at the facts nottingham is the most violent outside london.

nottmboy, cotgrave
19-February-2003
Reply to Mark
Mark. Again. It depends which part of Liverpool you're talking about. I spent three years in the city, living off Smithdown Road and loved it.

Dan, Ruddington
19-February-2003
Reply to Max
Max, I wouldn't go as far as saying that Chapeltown (Leeds) is like Kensington (I wish!) compared to St.Ann's, but I see your point. However, Leeds and Nottingham in a lot of ways are pretty similiar. A lot of the points raised in this debate are typical of most UK cities. Beggars, crime, litter, poverty, etc. These are the bad points, but look at the good points. Nottingham and Leeds are the UK's fastest growing cities. They've both had a lot of investment in recent years, and are both building new tram systems, which will increase the prosperity of the place (like Manchester). I know that Nottingham's crime is bad, and as Max says, it's generally within the city boundaries, rather than outlying suburbs, but all the inner city areas and the large council estates are in the City of Nottingham. Crime will be generally less in wealthier areas. I wouldn't say that Nottingham is the best city, but it's certainly not the worst. Try living in Liverpool as I did, it's disgusting!

Mark, The North
19-February-2003
agree with john
first things first saying that nottingham is a big city is a cmplet joke.its population like most cities to be far has decreased.it is around the 270000 area in population.nottingham is great if you live in chilwell and bramcote and all the other suburbs but to tell you the truth the actual city is damn right grim.looking at marks point of viw if you compare nottingham to leicester and drby even max the anti nottingham admits they are dumps without the nottingham crime rates.althogh nottingham poorer than derby and leicester it has got a much better city centre so nottingham does not have much competion really.but mark trust me visit leeds then visit nottingham mark from leeds cos leeds is brilliant compared to nottingham now markyou should come to st annes .ive been to chapel town and its like kensington compared to stannes.

max, city of nottingham

18-February-2003
Is Nottingham the Best?!
I moved to Nottingham after living in countless other places in the world, and i have to say, I am disappointed. Over the three years I have been here the crime has got considerably worse, the number of beggars and Big Issue sellers has skyrocketed, and I just don't feel safe here anymore. I used to feel that Nottingham was a city with a human dimension. People would be willing to help you out if you looked lost and they would talk to you on the bus. Now, they ignore you, wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire, and if you speak to them, they think you are going to mug them or something. I have moved out of Nottingham and further to the North, but i still work here. The traffic problems are a ngihtmare - you just can't go anywhere without grinding to a halt in some elongated traffic jam. It makes life simply miserable! I have to say, you will not find me walking about town in the dark, and certainly not alone at any time. Nottingham is not the "world's best city". It is the world's okay-for-the moment city" instead.

Clare, North of Nottingham

18-February-2003
Is Nottinghm the Best City?
No, not by a long, long way. We have spiralling crime, filthy streets, no-go areas, ineffective public transport and an apathetic populace. I've lived in Nottinghamshire all my life but now only visit the city perhaps once a year. It's truely an embarressment. Luckily when I travel I'm able to disguise my Notts accent, if I didn't I feel I would spend a lot of time apologising for this grotty and dangerous third rate city.

Richard, Notts

18-February-2003
Nottingham
NOTTINGHAM IS AN EXCELLENT CITY!!!!EVERY THING IS WICKED!!!!! THERE IS NO VIOLENCE AND THE SHOPS ARE THE BEST!!!!!U DONT GET NO DRUGS OR NUFFIN IN NOTTINGHAM!!!! YO JUST CUM TO NOTINGHA!!!!THE WORLDS BEST CITY!!!!

LESLIE, NOTTINGHAM

18-February-2003
NOTTINGHAM
I was born and bred in nottm. I have worked all my life in nottm.The city used to be a very nice place until the bad attitude of outsiders came in and spoiled what the city once had. You didnt have to worry about walking in the city without being accosted by so many beggars and people who dont(not cant but wont) work for a living.I used to love going into the city to shop but now i fear the city has gone downhill fast and until they bring some sort of law to stop these beggars then i dont think that nottingham will get back to the lovely clean city it was.The market square is a dumping ground for these so called unemployed, you cant sit down in your lunch break and enjoy peace and quiet for dogs running around . for every big issue seller they have two or three dogs each.The so called benches that are in the square are either broken or covered in pigeon crap,and the market square is the first place that visitors from other parts of the world seem to ask for.What a greeting e! h!!!

shell,

18-February-2003
Reply to Paul
Paul, when people joke about 'your lot' it's unjustified. Stealing car radios? No, that's not fair! Dropping lots of litter, spitting on trains, covering railway stations in graffiti, trying to jump on moving trains... that's more like it. That's what I saw on Saturday on a train journey from Crosby into Liverpool city centre. Of course, these are all fairly minor compared to the shootings that go on here, the gang crime, and the rest. Nottingham isn't perfect, but it's better than Liverpool.

Mark , The North

18-February-2003
nottingham being the greatest city!
im a student here originally from liverpool. When people here where i'm from they joke about me stealing car radios in my spare time. So what should i say if someone says they are from nottingham..? Should i ask them if start fights every weekend? Should i joke about their horrible misplaced accent? It doesn't matter how much you regenerate a city..its the inhabitants that really make it what it is. Students get a bad reputation for being pissed, making noise mand stealing signs..but they don't shoot strangers, stamp on old womens heads or break into cars! The older generation of this city(30+)are generally nice people but god help the place when the young people grow up, especially these wannabe gangsters that cruise round in their yellow puntos.

Paul, Nottingham

18-February-2003
Nottingham City
Nottingham was a great city in the 1950's 60's. Now it is just a complete mess of a place. For instance, you cannot walk with any safety within Nottingham on the pavements as you are continually faced with road works or being approached by beggers - and to live within the city it now costs an unwarranted arm and a leg in rates. The city will become even more dangerous to people with the introduction of "trains" on the cities roads

Mike Leigh, Nottingham

18-February-2003
Crime
Just because you havent been affect by any crime doesn't mean it isnt there.Since moving here 6 months ago I've been mugged,had my house broken into, my car vandalised twice and I've been started on by some bloke for trying to cross the road on a zebra crossing when he wanted to drive over it.Nice place this.

Dave, Dunkirk

18-February-2003
Mark, Nottingham
You see Mark it's exactly your attitude that has left Nottingham in the sad state it is in today. I accept that the shopping is OK here, if you like the skin tight apparently trendy look, and the night life is OK if you like the whole main stream thing. That's not the issue though. The point is that some people here have this strange idea that Nottingham is some big city like London or Birmingham, it's not! It has a population of 250,000, but the violent crime rate of London or Birmingham, and that's just it. The problems come from this mentality, small time criminals trying to pretend they're in a big city. Oh and by the way, Swindon isn't a metropolis it has a population of just under 200,000 and doesn't pretend to be anything else, note the almost complete lack of crime there!

John, NG9

17-February-2003
Is Nottingham the best city in the country?
I can't believe anyone even had to ask the question! NO!!!

Dave, Nottingham

17-February-2003
Nottingham
READING THIS I FEEL AS IF I HAVE TO APOLOGISE FOR THE IGNORANCE DISPLAYED BY SOME OF THE NOTTINGHAM RESIDENTS.IT IS THESE PEOPLE WHO GIVE THE CITY THE BAD REPUTATION IT HAS. AFTER ALL THE CITY REALLY DOES HAVE FANTASTIC SHOPPING AND NIGHTLIFE.WHETHER YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IT OR NOT ITS A FACT.AND IF YOU DONT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOUR EXPECTING.I HAVE LIVED IN CITIES OF EQUAL SIZE AND IT IS A BIG CITY(JOHN FROM NG9- I D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THE METROPOLIS OF SWINDON WHICH YOU FOUND)REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU CARE TO BELIEVE IT OR NOT NOTTM IS MORE THAN TREBLE THE SIZE. IT S A FACT SORRY. OVER THE PAST YEAR THE CRIME HAS INCREASED IN NOTTM BUT I HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED ANY AND I WORK IN THE CITY CENTRE BOTH DAY AND NIGHT.THE CITY CENTRE IS EXTREMELY ATTRACTIVE AND WITH RECORD UNIVERSITY APPLICATIONS(WELL OVER 80 000 LAST YEAR) THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT THE CITIES REPUTATION IS DECLINING.I NO LONGER LIVE IN NOTTM BUT STUDY IN NEWCASTLE.THERE IS NO COMPARISON.THE! CITY OF NOTTINGHAM IS FANTASTIC.THE PEOPLE OF NOTTINGHAM ARE FRIENDLY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW IDIOTS WHO HAVE TO MAKE THEMSELVES HEARD BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO.IT IS THESE PEOPLE WHO GIVE THE CITY IT S BAD REPUTATON.I AM ABLE TO IGNORE THEM AFTER ALL I HAVE GOT MORE TO THINK ABOUT THAN THEIR STUPIDITY. I LOVE NOTTINGHAM AND REMAIN CONFIDENT THAT ANY VISITOR WOULD.JUST IGNORE THE OCCASIONAL LOUDMOUTH YOBS WHICH MAY I SAY ARE PREVALENT IN ANY CITY-WHETHER IT BE NORTH SOUTH EAST OR WEST.THERE IS NO DISTINCTION. COULD YOU PEOPLE STOP BAD MOUTHING OUR CITIES. FROM MY EXPERIENCE I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO ONE BRITISH CITY WHO GIVES ANY ONE THE RIGHT TO BE SO ARROGANT.AFTER ALL, ALL YOU DO IS LIVE THERE .YOU DID NOT BUILD THE CITY OR ARE PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THERE.WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO BE SO ARROGANT. IF I WANTED TO MOVE TO ONE OF THESE SO CALLED 'BETTER' CITIES I COULD!!!! FOR EVERY ONE WHO HAS HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE IN NOTTM THERE WILL BE FIV! E WHO HAVE HAD AN AMAZING TIME.GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND GET OVER YOURSELVES.THIS IS PEOPLES HOMES YOU ARE IGNORANTLY BAD MOUTHING.

MARK NG2, NOTTINGHAM

15-February-2003
Nottingham city centre
Nottm is a great place to live,work,enjoy life and settle down. Lets face it, how many other cities can boast of the following 1.Two football clubs 2.Holme pierrpont 3.National Ice Centre 4.Three theatres 5.Universities. 6.Two brilliant hospitals 7.Local International airport 8.21st century tram system 9.River Trent 10.Nottingham castle 11.Two indoor shopping centres 12.A known fashion capital 13.Massive entertainment 14.More pubs and clubs than you can shake a stick at. The list goes on. Who wouldnt want to live in Nottingham. All i ask is that the rabble who every friday and saturday nights who leave the comfortable surrounds of their own towns many miles away, jump into a privatly hired mini bus, come into the fair city of Nottingham, get drunk, cause a nuisance,break a few windows, fight other out of town mini bus drunkards,throw up all over OUR streets, urinate in shop doorways STAY THERE IN YOUR NICE QUIET TOWNS. The people of Nottingham dont want you to visit when all you do is make a mess for us locals to have to clear up.

ray , nottm
14-February-2003
Nottingham Love it/ Loathe it
Hayley of Gillingham , Kent You ask for opinions and views of The City of Nottingham. When you have moved here Nottingham will become home to you. Whether that be for a number of days, or weeks. You`ve probably heard the expression "home is what you make it", well it applies to the area that you move to, village, town, city. There are folk who live here , or have done, who despise the place for whatever reason. However on the positive side there are others who will say its a great place to live. We have crime, drugs, prostitution, but then their are other places in Britain who face similar problems. We try to tackle these with resources and finances available. My wife and myself were married in Nottingham centre and we`ve lived here for for 32 years. The only negative we have noticed about this wonderful city .......is the amount of traffic. There again what location in Britain does not have large traffic problems. In conclusion Hayley we say , don`t be influenced by anybody`s opinions or views. You have to make the decision yourself.

Top Valley resident, Nottingham
14-February-2003
my home town
as a teenager living in skegness but with fond memories of my home town nottingham from being a young'un and being a regular visitor of family still there and being a season ticket holder at my beloved nottingham forest I obviously have a basis for comparison between to differently perceived places. To be quite honest I cant wait to move back to nottingham as skegness being highly regarded as a plaesant seaside town is going down the same road in crime as nottingham and maybe not in gun crime and major roberies and drugs but in every day robberies that you would need to worry about more I can hardly see the differnce when talking to family in nottingham who have never been robbed after 60 years in nottingham. One thing I am sure of is that apart from the extreme people in nottingham especialy in my age group people are much more freindly and less fake which is my main preference to nottingham. The oportunities and social life holds much more to offer which cant be diputed .One thing that can be said is that if you dont agree with me I will find out for myself and I will have a much more accurate account of nottingham but for now I WILL carry on working hard in my education so I can move back to nottingham till then c'mon u reeeeds!

david, skegness

14-February-2003
Reply to Hayley
Hayley, despite all the negative comments about the place, it's generally pretty good. Like all cities, Nottingham has it's crime, poverty and other problems, but you could do far worse. It's by far the nicest city in the Midlands. Although I live back in my native north, I lived there for a few years, in an area called Chilwell to the west of the city. It's quite nice, with the exception of an estate called Inham Nook. Other areas like Arnold, Beeston, Bramcote, Mapperley, West Bridgford and Wollaton are your best bets. Avoid places like Bestwood, Bulwell, and most inner city areas. Nottingham does have a lot of council estates, most of which are pretty dodgy, but it does also have nice areas, most of which are not actually in the City of Nottingham, but in surrounding boroughs which many of it's suburbs are situated. Hope you enjoy the city - I did.

Mark, former resident of Nottingham

14-February-2003
Nottingham isnt BAD
my dad is a police man in two of nottinghams worse hit areas. My dad has been in the force for 15 years now and he has only seen 2 people die of gang war. every city has wars and killings nottingham really isnt bad we have some nice bars clubs and have some really good places to vist for example the national ice center or the national water center. i have lived in nottingham narly my whole life and there is no where else i would rather be ~x~LEANNE~x~

leanne
nottingham
14-February-2003
has been
Nottingham maybe used to be a good city,thats in the distant past now though,too much crime and drugs,too many idiots running wild in the city streets,give me the Nottingham of yesteryear,like pre 1960's

ray goodall
durban south africa
14-February-2003
Nottingham
Being a student in Nottingham is from my experience brilliant. The night life is great, you meet people from all over the world and there is always things to do. Nottingham is a living town with pulse. But what I noticed and was concerned about while living in Nottingham was three things in particular. 1. The homeless people ( including all the sellers of The Issue) 2. The lack of knowledge in enviromental issues. 3. The high rate of crimes. Even if these are difficult issues to deal with-something has to be done. Because these issues affects all of us. And we all have a responsability to make a change. Composting is a beginning, if you are not in to it yet. But on the whole, Nottingham is a town I cannot live without.

Sandra, 脰stersund, Sweden

13-February-2003
Nottingham - Best city - Not any more!!
I moved to Nottingham some six years ago to study and liked the city so much I decided to stay and work here. Like any city it has both its good points and bad points. House rent prices are cheap and the pubs, clubs and restaurants in the city are superb. The only problem with the city is its slow decline into anarchy. I've had the pleasure of living here whilst it was still quite a pleasant city to walk around in which is why I feel its such a shame to have let it get this bad. The local councils benefit system is seen as one of the easiest to cheat in the country and so theres been a huge influx of homeless and immigrant communities. If you walk through the city centre on any normal day you can guarantee that you'll be asked for your hard earned wages at least five times by the homeless. Add this to the huge number of big issue sellers then you get a very frustrating city to work in. I also feel that there has been an explosion in certain communities that is strangling the! city. Crime has risen massively whatever people say and I believe that there is a blinkered view from a lot of people on this issue. If you don't look then you won't see. I'm not saying its bad to live here, more that I agree with steve of Notts who said the city is being killed. There's been to much focus on making the city cool to live in (trams, clubs etc) and not enough on making it safe, clean and most importantly respectable to work in. The tram system simply isn't needed and has caused massive carnage and will continue to do so (if it ever works because they made the trams to heavy to get up hills).The way the city is going in five years time it cetainly won't be worth living in. If you are moving here then look at the Park, Mapperly Park, Wollaton or Sherwood for close to the city or live in a village a little bit out of the city.

CP, Nottingham

11-February-2003
what is it REALLY like??
I am going to be moving to nottingham with my partner and 2 kids soon, at the moment i live in Kent and have done all my life, could someone please tell us what nottingham is really like and the places to avoid.Cheers

Hayley, gillingham, kent, england
10-February-2003
Home less people and agression
i know that for most of them it is not there fault that they are homeless. But i was out on Friday and one homeless person asked me for 5 pounds, and i said no sorry. She started and started to threaten me and was getting all up tight in my face. I think that there should be a ban on this sort of behaviour and i think that something should be done about agressive homeless people. I do give the bit odd change now again. But i think that 5 pounds is a lot to ask for, and there is never any police around or not enough police around in the Nottingham areas on a Friday and Saturday nights.

Rebecca
Nottingham Carlton England
06-February-2003
Manchester (Info for Paddy)
For information on Manchester visit www.Manchester.com

Dave, Manchester

06-February-2003
Reply to Paddy
Paddy, what stereotypes? Typical London attitude. Listen Delboy, why don't you look on a map, look north of the M25 (that's up the map) and see where these 'provincial backwaters' are, then get in your car and drive up this road called the M1. No, it's not a dirt track, but a major motorway, and along with other equally major motorways, it links all these stereotyped cities. Best you wrap up warm though as it's cold up north. Oh, I'd bring a torch too as we've not got to grips with electricity yet. I hope you're not too shocked by our northern poverty by the way. Also, best keep it to yourself if you plan to come up north as your fellow Londoners may question you as to why you'd want to do such a thing! "Go up north, what, with northern people? Pleassssse, why on earth would you want to do that? They are so uncultured and crude up north, oh, and they speak in such common accents too. No, you can't possibly want to go up north. What are you thinking of?" I can just hear the c! onversation now, down the Nags Head, with your pint of London Pride and your jellied eels! STEREOTYPES?? You insular lot down the BOTTOM end of the M1 are the biggest stereotyped people around!

Mark, The oh so grim north

05-February-2003
Nottingham, Manchester or Newcastle
Can anyone tell me some interesing facts about Nottingham, Manchester or Newcastle that help detract from the stereotypical view often given to these places.

Paddy, London

30-January-2003
nottingham is phat!
nottingham is the perfect city to live in, good night life, good shops, good football team (forest) i dont know who gave the geezer the idea that those places he mentioned were dodgy, he shud try saint anns or the meadows!

charles!, notts
31-January-2003
Re. Old glory days of Forest & the city
Don't think u can really call Nottingham a major city, it's moe of a large town with the crime of a large city! The night life is good for a place of its size though, only problem with it is the bouncer's trying to sell you coke all the time and the crazy drinks prices :-s Oh well, wouldn't put anyone off moving here, just make sure you know the areas to stay away from and don't walk around on our own at night. Good to see the police making an effort at the new "high visability" policing by keeping warm in their cars wathching all the cold shoppers from a distance!

Mark, Dunkirk, Nottingham
29-January-2003
Old glory days of Forest & the city
I still find myself saying 'back to back European champs' when the Man U. 'band waggoners'(glory chasers) here in T.O. get on the nerves. It was a great time growing up in that very successful Cloughie regime, especially from about the late 70's to the early 80's. Actually if you were a sports fan in general a lot of city pride was felt as the cricket team was not that bad either with the likes of Hadlee, Randall etc... Having moved away 16 years ago and visiting every few years since 'the grass is greener on the other side' scenario is wearing off. The City in general is a classy one, with a rich social/night life equal to that of the major cities around the world. People are genuinely warmer than North Americans but then again there seems to be a lot more narrow minded idiots around too. Nottingham will always be special as it is a part of my being, but the general socio-eco conditions compared to where I am now make it a place I will continue to visit on holiday only (keep it real). A big up to the family there and of course the beer !!

Pete.D., Mississauga(Toronto), Canada
29-January-2003
Nottingham
I used to live in Nottingham, but I left. Truthfully, that should tell you all you need to know.

Kat, London
movin
moving to nottigham is just the same as moving to a different city. nottingham can be rough in some places but its o.k. you have to seee what you think of it yourself and dont take other peoples oppions. you will have to decide for yourself what you think of it. but i think it is a great place to be.

claire spencer
25-January-2003
Reply to Dave
Dave, like you I'm immensely proud of where I come from. When somebody comes on a talk forum and slags your area off, naturally you're going to defend it. OK, if you were just having a laugh then fair enough, but Yorkshire is my home and where I was born. I lived in Nottingham for 2 very happy years, and many people have come on this site saying it's becoming run down, etc. Compared to most other cities, Nottingham and Leeds are very nice, and the two cities are very similar. Econimically they are both in the top 5 successful cities, tram systems are being built in both cities which will only help to boost the economy (if managed properly) and appearance of the cities is better than most in the UK. The problems however that both Leeds and Nottingham face is rising crime, particularly gun related, which is becoming increasingly worrying. Yorkshire is home and yes, some people like to stereotype here and everywhere else, but things are changing and up here it's fast. Anyway, I! 'l! l have to dash as I've got to clear the coal out of the bath before I can bath my pigeons! :-)

Mark , Ilkley Moor Baht' At

24-January-2003
Mansfield bitter
I am an American who has visited England. I want to give a shout out. I myself have been to England and in this case to Mansfield. It is one of the best beers i think ive ever had the pleasure of enjoying. I say leave the brewery in Mansfield. I have had Mansfield here in the states and think it tastes like **** in comparision to what it did in England.. Peace and cheers to all!!!

Shawn
Akron,Ohio,USA
23-January-2003
Nottingham in general
I have lived in Nottingham all my life and believe it to be a great city. I find it interesting how people keep quoting statistics about how bad Nottingham is for crime. Statistics can be used to prove anything and I feel that opinions should be based on personal experience and not figures. I work in St. Annes (arguably one of the roughest areas of the city), and have never witnessed any crime. This also goes for the nightlife in Nottingham, you do not need a bodyguard when you go out as some people have previously stated. If you go out to have a good time you will get it in Nottingham, there are good bars, shops, pubs and restaurants. So ignore people who quote facts and figures and try the city out for yourself - i promise you'll love it!

Rory Lee, Nottingham

23-January-2003
Reply to Mark...In West Yorkshire..M1 area
Hello Again......I was only joking mate!!! I realise that all parts of the UK have there problem parts and also there beautiful area,s. I apologise if i hit a raw nerve.

David....in Notts, Notts

23-January-2003
Reply to Dave
Dave, I can assure you I have a sense of humour, but you, you're clearly just not funny! I don't want to bore you with facts about my supposedly 'bleak' part of Yorkshire, as I fear it may be too much for someone as dim as you to take in, but Leeds is one of the most successful cities in the UK, and a very nice one too. You obviously don't know ANYTHING about Yorkshire, because if you did, you would know that I would need to go up to the Dales to count sheep, and not at the side of the M1! Nottingham is a great city, although the rising amount of crime and the fact that you live there are blatant negatives!

Mark (and sheep!), The TOP of the M1

22-January-2003
message to Mark (the so called real world,junction 42 ..M1
He calls me the "regional Racist" I can understand his comments,if he lives on or near the M1, especially in that bleak part of Yorkshire....cant have anything better to do apart from counting traffic or sheep ...or both!!!! Get a sense of humour!!!!...i have travelled the lenth and breadth of the country and i love it all....of course it has its good and bad like anywhere... I love Yorkshire and 99% of the county have a good sense of humour... I love Nottingham its my home town..and would not be anywhere else!!!!End of Story!!!!!!

Dave,.a true notts man , Nottingham

23-January-2003
Nottingham - fab place!
As a student in my second year at Trent, I have to say that I love Nottingham! I don't live in a central location, so I get the best of both worlds. As for the crime, it is the same in any city. Although Nottingham is suffering from the nationwide rise in gun culture. Coming from near Milton Keynes, a town devoid of personality, Nottingham seems a great place to me. Those who describe it as a dull slum just aren't looking hard enough. The culture is diverse, the nightlife fabulous, there are so many things to do and places to eat, and so much heritage! I am fascinated by the history of Nottingham, and it is a wonderful place to spend the summer.

Em, Notts

23-January-2003
nottingham - good city
like any city Nottingham has it's good and bad parts. It's what you make of it. Crime - i live in Arnold, near the town centre as as you know if your from here close to Bestwood. I also have family in St Annes, for the saying sticks like ** it does we have never had any trouble - you just keep out of it

bran, nottingham

23-January-2003
Notts best City etc.......
I have lived in Nottingham all my life and as soon as I was old enough and wise enough to get out...I DID! However, being absent from Nottingham has made me aware of its positives. Nottingham has a great nightlife - (as long as you have a personal bodyguard)and its historical character is great too. I would advise everyone to visit Nottingham at least once in there life time, but i certainly wouldnt encourage anyone to stay longer than a few years. There are some great places, but i think overall, these are outweighed by the 'not so great'places. Personally, Nottingham will always have a place in my sense of who I am and where I come from - and I am proud to tell people, but it is not somewhere I want to be in the future.

Anon, ACT, Australia

22-January-2003
Notts
I have been a student in Nottingham for around 18 months and believe that there is currently a serious problem with crime. Toward the tale end of last year there were bank robberies and several shootings including a young woman shot in the head at point blank range. All of this helped propel Nottingham up to 4th position on the list of most dangerous places to be in the early hours of the morning. However despite the myriad of problems with Nottingham there are still so many positives. Due to the (circa) 40,000 students from the two Universities Nottingham is a vibrant youthful city with great nightlife and great restaurants and a wealth of cultural history. It is common knowledge that one has to take greater care regarding valuables when in large cities and Nottingham by no means stands out from other cities in this respect. It is unfortunate that one has to accept that along with the wonderful diversity that emerges from our cosmopolitan cultural capitals there will always be an undesirable criminal element that lurks beneath the surface.

James Tomlinson, Lenton, Nottingham

21-January-2003
What about Racial Tension in Nottingham?
Hi, without sounding like a cynical person, I know that Nottingham is a racially diverse city, and since I am thinking of moving there (never been before) can anyone comment on whether there is much racial tension that you here so much of in Midlands / Northern English cities? I know it's not an Oldham (without stereotyping any place), but is Nottingham going that way, or is it a much more chilled out place for an ethnic minority to live and work? Opinions welcome!

A.J., Cambridge

21-January-2003

I am from Notts but now live in Northampton. Nottingham has a great nightlife but some really rough areas to watch out for. To the person who asked what is wrong with Bestwood, I give you one piece of advice, do not move there. It has the highest rate of young single mothers, drug pushers and youth gangs in the city, except for St Anns. Its a complete dump. I truly advise you to stay well away if you want to keep your possesions. Nottingham itself is a nice city though with some nice areas sucg as Burton Joyce and Mapperly park, the nightlife is great but there are some rough places to look out for, sunday nights is grab a granny night and full of older rough women in leather. I moved away from Notts and I have to say I'm glad I did. Nice place by day, rougher by night.

Louise,

21-January-2003
Nottingham
I lived in Notts for about ten years or so, and all I can say is that it is a city I shall never return to. All the comments about crime is bad, but just ignore it are a little silly, I think. Kinda hard to work for a living and then just ignore your stuff being stolen, or having your car windows smashed in on numerous occasions, like mine. It really was a microcosm of the UK, and all in all I have no desire to ever step foot on English soil again. Too many snobs, too much crime, too little to offer.

Jeremy, Spokane, Washington, USA

18-January-2003
Missing Notts
My partner and I lived in Notts for 8 months. It was most lovely. I miss the long days of summer walking to the local for a pint. Radio stations were wicked. It's a city of a slower pace. There is crime to watch out for, but we should watch our backs in any town. Believing that your safe because you're not in Notts is ignorant. The lot I know in England are a fine bunch. The economy was rough but I believe the economy is rough all over. I'm living in San Francisco, CA now and I still my Sherwood home. My partner and I hope to return there one day to live and make a home.

David Cole, San Francisco, California USA

18-January-2003
Nottingham
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Dave, Donny and Proud

17-January-2003
bestwood???
hi could anyone explain to me what is wrong with bestwood i was looking to buy a property there but may consider other places i have heard that there is a part of notts that is riddled with drugs and prostitutes is this the area

mel, cheshire

17-January-2003

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17-January-2003
People's attitudes and opinions regarding Nottingham
Love the comments! Sounds like many of you completely miss the point. A city is not just the bit with a concrete square and town hall in front. Places like Bulwell and hucknall are important because of what they contributed to the development of Nottingham through the supply of workers to the industry surrounding the city. Use of "minging" shows the lack of maturity in expressing a view on what is a very beautiful city and surrounding area. Nottingham is great, it is just there is a certain amount of 'idiots' in the city and they tend to use this site to depict a city that is intolerant and not welcoming. I'd gladly pay the train fare to punch a bit of reality into some people's brains that use this site! Thanks.

JB, Manchester/Bulwell, Nottingham born, bred & proud!

15-January-2003

Nottingham is a great city with lots of great facilities but it is by no means the best it is beaten hands down by London and Manchester as are all other cities whether it be Leeds, Birmingham or Edinburgh. In terms of culture, media, finance, nightlife, shopping, international profile, city developments, and government and private investment London and Manchester leave the other cities to eat the crumbs from the table of these powerhouse cities

craig, notts

15-January-2003
Student In Nottingham
Currently live on campus at Nottingham Uni (not Trent). Looking for a house next year. Lenton is the main place that comes up as 'the place to live' but the house we're probably going to secure is right on the border of Lenton & Old Radford. My main worry now is obviously the crime (the woman that was shot was right near this house). Is it as bad as is made out or will I be alright?

Anon, Uni Park, Nottm

15-January-2003
Wierd Message Board
My main advice to all of you thinking of moving to Nottingham is DON'T!!! The city is in serious decline. It is the only place I've ever been in the UK where you can go into the city (if its big enough to be called that) anyway week day and find no-one has a job, just thousands of denim clad townies spending their benefits. The cty seems to have more no-go areas than safe areas. In reality Nottingham is a large town with the crime rate of a metropolis and nothing really going for it. As for the night life, the supposedly "classy" bars of The Lace Market of full of Nottingham's finest townies showing off their best Ben Sherman. The student scene seems to be as good as it gets here :s I've lived in Coventry, Edinburgh, London and Swindon and out of all of these places would have to recommend Swindon the most and Nottingham the least. I came to Nottingham with high expectations but really can't find one thing to tell people that is good about it! Sorry :(

John, NG9

14-January-2003
Nottingham yet again!
Have to say i was really interesed in everyones opinions regarding this! I know some people may of been a but offended about my last comments but that was not my direct intention!!! The thing with areas in Nottingham is It varies from one street to the next its very strange and is quite clear its usually based on the tenants of the properties! Mud sticks thats all ill say no matter what you say. Regarding GAY life Nottingham is good there options of different pubs and there is a club which isnt bad but in fairness hockley now is rather trendy and thers alot of places you can go and theres the odd poof prancing around in lovezoo wearing shades and prada! regardless! All in all i do like Nottingham the poeple genrally are ok, main thing to say is just look after yourself! XXXXXXX

AmAzInG!!!!!!!, Nottingam !

14-January-2003
reply to mark
well said mark.what is that idiot dave on about.i know you found nottingham decent mark but fair enough as thats your opinion but to say its the best in the country dave is beyond ajoke. in my opinion it has to be edinborough for its shear history and as for nottingham castle that s a complete joke.nottingham has got much more drab areas than leeds like bulwell and bestwood people dont see those areas because there hidden away.oh HARSHAD I RECCOMEND WOLLATON AS ITS THE BEST PART OF THE CITY

MAX, NOTTINGHAM

14-January-2003
Moving to Nottingham
If I get this job, I might have to relocate from Bradford, but to be honest I don't really know so much about Nottingham, where are the best places in Nottingham? Thanks!

Harshad Patel, BRADFORD(for the moment!)

14-January-2003
Reply to Dave the regional racist!
Dave, are you actually being serious in that narrow minded run down of just about anywhere outside Nottingham? Having lived around the country, including Nottingham, and being from West Yorkshire, I first found your comments offensive. Having thought about it, they are just laughable. Fair enough, place names like Goole, Pontefract and Huddersfield do sound drab. Let's look more locally to Notts(e.g. Killisick, Skegby, Blidworth, Warsop, Hucknall.... etc, etc). Not exactly idyllic are they? As for Leeds being a refuse tip, which Leeds have YOU been to? Leeds is actually cleaner than most other UK cities, and as for poverty, Nottingham ranks far higher on the deprivation scale than both Leeds and Bradford. Londoners think they're gods gift do they? The Welsh are ignorant? Glaswegians are junkies? Going by your method of regional analysis, Nottingham people are thick. Of course that's not true, but most people have a different outlook to the outside world than you apparently d! o. Do us all a favour, grow up!

Mark, The Real World - M1, junction 42

12-January-2003

Nottingham is a good city apart from crime but i learn to ignore it.there are some horrible places in nottingham but i feels its a good city to be in and i also agree with richmond there are some minging places but the town center is really nice but i feel Nottingham is getting a bad reputation for crime but ignoring that its a really good city:)

ng12, nottingham

12-January-2003
"Nottingham the thriving city"!
As a previous worker on the front line of a benefits agency office, I have heard numerous times first hand that "crack" is cheaper than almost anywhere else in the country, hence causing beggars, etc to flock to Nottingham from other cities. This causes Nottingham to now be riddled with more beggars every few yards than most places in the UK. The cheap price also contributes to the high crime rate in the city. If this is "thriving"then give me a run-down city any day!

Anon, Nottingham (for now)

12-January-2003
Leicester not much different?!
I moved from Ruddington to Leicester 5 years ago and i've never settled in. Leicester is just a dull generic British city. Theres nothing *wrong* with it as such, theres just nothing to make it stand out. Nottingham seems to have avoided the 'generic curse', and I'm not entirely sure how.

John, Oadby, Leicester.

12-January-2003
Moving to Nottingham (from London)
Thanks Mark and Dan for your tips on good places to live in Nottingham. Much appreciated!

JP, Richmond, London

12-January-2003
Nottingham ...best city
Nottingham is by far the best place on the planet.....Lets start with Birmingham apart from the stupid accent,the city is dull as dishwater,even on a bright summers day!!!and full of Brummies.. Derby has got about as much character as a funeral procession... Leicester..is slightly better and you can get a good curry there but the city centre is pretty naff. Lets talk about Wales...for a start its full of Welsh people they are very hostile towards english and will start talking in there stupid language if you walk into a shop or pub etc,it always rains there.....i think the sheep are more freindly!!(i dont get to freindly with them i must emphasise) THE SHEEP THAT IS!!!! As for Yorkshire....why do all the city/town names sound so drab..eg.GOOLE,PONTEFRACT,HUDDERSFIELD,DRONEFIELD WAKEFIELD LEEDS??Bradford and Leeds are complete refuse tips,and smell like them as well.The best thing to come out of Sheffield is the M1!!. ALL Londoners think there gods gift.. and that silly rhyming slang...There roads are crap and there driving is even worse,basically its full of patronising gits who drive round in flash motors and talk crap. The North East...well thats grim its cold and very uninviting and as for that silly angel of the north,what a waste of money...A rusty pile of junk that would look better in the scrap yard...I think an old mark 1 cortina would do a better job. Scotland.....Full of plonkers wearing silly skirts with no underwear on...and when the wind blows only revealing a small tadger...Then there is Glasgow its cold grim and full of junkies and beer guts. I must say i like the South west apart from Bristol..its to near Wales and its full of scumpy slurpers(note wrong with that!!!)there accent is a tad daft..ooaaarrr and the M5 is a total nightmare. Devon and Cornwall are great but its not up to the great city of Nottingham...why is it you are always glad to get back home?? Every part of Nottingham is sound...people slag off the Meadows and st annes but ive been there and let me tell you its only a very small minority that give it a reputation. IVE LIVED IN NOTTS ALL MY LIFE AND WOULDNT BE ANY WHERE ELSE.....I LOVE IT

Dave..,

12-January-2003
The Best City
I have lived in Nottingham all my life (so far !). Nottingham used to be a fantastic city but over the last decade it has changed drastically. Nottingham has 2 average shopping centres and a diverse collection of shops between them, but getting into the city centre now is becoming impossible. 24 hour bus lanes that force cars into one long queue crawling into town, car parks that are full from very early in the morning meaning more queueing, and traffic wardens ready to pounce at the fist sign of a ticket ! And before you all say 'get the bus', if they provided a bus service that let me put a dozen large bags somewhere safely, I just might. Once you do get into the shops the attitudes of the shop assistants are appalling. Its a case of "give me the money, now clear off". Oh - and that is if you actually do find a shop worth going into. Most shops that open now tend to be either ) a pub, b) a new club or c) a coffee shop !!! I live to the North of the city, and now I am much happier to travel to Meadowhall to do a large shop than battle into and through the city. It is a lot less stressful. Maybe the council should re-title their logo "Nottingham - we're killing our city". Something to think about.

Steve, Nottingham

12-January-2003
What about Gay life in Nottingham?
I am considering moving to Nottingham with my partner but would like to ask people out there - is it true that it is a tolerant city for gay people? does the city have much of a gay scene? Of course, all cities have their problems, but I've heard that due to a young population it's quite a hip place- any responses to that?

Mark, Cambridge

11-January-2003
Nottingham
Let me see...We don't have much competion do we? I mean what city are we compared with? If its Derby then...well, its like comparing Rome with Ulan Battur do i need to say more. Leicester, they are trying but suffer from the same problem as Derby, we call it the moon problem, atmosphereless. So yes Nottingham is the best of the bunch locally thank god.

martin, Nottingham
11-January-2003
In reply to JP
JP. If you're looking for the quieter life, yet easy reach down the A52 I can recommend Ruddington. Eight pubs, good eat-in / eat-out food. Also, bit of a community feel.

Dan, Ruddington
10-January-2003
In reply to JP
JP, I lived in Chilwell, which is on the west side of Nottingham. It was a very pleasant area (apart from a nearby council estate). Beeston is your best bet really. It's near the university, good pubs, shops are OK, and easy to get into the city centre. Try also places like Bramcote, Wollaton, West Bridgford, which aren't too far. Hope you like Nottingham. I as very happy there, although there's no place like home (Leeds).

Mark , Leeds (ex Notts)
10-January-2003
Moving to Nottingham (from London)
I've lived all over the UK, but never in the Midlands. But now I find I'm moving up to live there in the summer! Really looking forward to it. I'd say that Nottingham has a very positive reputation for those of us elsewhere in the UK - and somewhere definitely 'on the up' (like Leeds, Manchester and Cardiff). Trams should be great (not many people in Manchester will admit to having resisted them now). [Re: "Theres really minging areas BULLWELL STRELLEY BROXTOWE HYSON GREEN BESTWOOD ETC but theres nice places to!"] Anybody any suggestions about good places to look when house hunting? I'll be working at Nottingham Uni. but will have a car and happy to travel a bit. Cheers.

JP, Richmond, London

10-January-2003
Nottingham
I work in Nottingham. I live in Derby. 'Nuff said.

Geoff, Derby

10-January-2003
Players cigarettes
I have a miniature pack of Players given to me by my aunt who worked at Players back in the 1940's. This pack is approximately 3/4" in size and is complete with tiny wooden cigarettes. Does anyone have any information on how old this item would be and what the value is? Sheila, Veedersburg, Indiana, USA sheila@tds.net

Sheila Nine, Veedersburg, Indiana, USA

08-January-2003
Hey I live in Strelley
and I love it. All the old grannies talk to me at the bus stop I chat to people on the bus, I don't live in fear here, and I'm not benefit scum. I consider myself very respectable, it was the only house I could afford on my low income. I hate it when people think if you live in the Broxtowe area you are suddenly a trouble maker. There are a handful of families that make it a bad place to live. And at any rate, most people live near or even next door to a criminal, even if they don't know it.

Ms., Nottm

09-January-2003
Re: Nottingham
Did you take any notice of the differences between nottingham and the other places you lived? You say you lived in Swindon which has one of the lowest crime rates in Europe and now you live in Nottingham which has one of the highest? And also where is the dodgy area in Broxtowe? Have the Bramcote millionaires turned nasty?

Dave, Dunkirk, Nottingham

07-January-2003
Nottingham
Ok i can see everones point here likeanywhere else in the world there are good and bad points! first off i used to live in leicester,swindon and northampton and to be honest theres not much diffrence except in pubs bad clubs etc! i mean in people and theyre attitudes! Ok yes it is multi cultural which in fairness can be deemed good or bad depending on what experiences you have! I live with 3 asian girls in the forest fields area in general quiet but in most cases theres more difference in the streets not the area! Radford RD reknown for being a bit dodgy but Sherwood rise not too bad! Not far from each other! The city is cool but you aint gonna get it much better anywhere else! We all have to be more careful these days no matter what, i think most poeple are aware guns are usually used to settle gang squabbles etc by living here you kind of hear this! i dont live in fear im going to get gunned down! Where i live is prodominently asain that doesnt bother me either why should ! i'd rather be ther ethan bullwell where i have to say is RANK! the city os nice if you just be careful apart from that dont know if ive made a point at all! but there you go! Theres really minging areas BULLWELL STRELLEY BROXTOWE HYSON GREEN BESTWOOD ETC but theres nice places to! have to say though alot of residents here dont look after theyre homes i see loads of reall beautiful house ruined by a load of crammed immigrants or something and before you start im not racist! anything but ! you take time to walk around and see what you see!

Amazing! xx, Notts

07-January-2003
Worlds Best City
I think the quality of a city is more dependdent upon the quality of the people than on its location. For an individual the Best City in the world is going to be where your friends and family are. I worked in Nottingham for a while and found it a plesant city to work in, however I prefer Adelaide South Australa because of my close conections here. However I am sure that the reverse wiuld be true in relation to the majority of people who live in the Nottingham area.

Chris, Adelaide, Australia

06-January-2003
Is Nottingham the best city?
I would just like to say that I really do like Nottingham on the whole and some of my family have lived there for a great many years. I dont get much chance to get up there and visit but when I do I really enjoy being there the people are very friendly and pleasant.There are a lot of places of interest, places to dine out and great shops too! I must admit though that I have noticed a decline in the place and no longer feel as safe as I used to. I noticed a lot of beggars in the city centre whereas around 7 yrs ago I never saw any at all.Also it is no longer safe to go into the city at night so we are no longer able to enjoy ourselves as before.I do feel that crime has increased and needs to be tackled. I also enjoy the multicultural identity Nottingham has and its history. I would really like to live there in a nice area but I cannot afford it and wouldnt hesistate to move there as there are a lot of opportunities for people. I live in Wales so you can imagine just how vibrant and exciting Nottingham seems to me as where I live in Wales is just about the worst place you could live. I hate it here - my heart is in Nottingham!

Angie, South Wales
05-January-2003
Is Nottingham the best city?
This discussion is so funny. What's even more funny is the fact that some of you even believe that Notingham is the best city. I have noticed since I've lived here, however, that people in Nottingham seem to have an ignorance of the rest of the country rivalled only by Londoners! It was a good marketing ploy by GWR to use the arrogance of the locals through Trent FM and come up with that slogan, shame they've done the same thing in just about every city in the UK.

Mark, Nottingham

05-January-2003
Mundella School
if you were a pupil at Mundella School, or know someone who was, you might be interested in our website www.mundella.org.uk

Margaret Astill (nee Dexter), Lincoln UK

05-January-2003
Nottingham Castle.
Long ago in the distant past, ,many people smoked cigarettes, and enjoyed the soothing effects of the nicotine contained in the tobacco that burned so nicely in the cigarette. People used to call cigarettes "Fags, and there were many brands to choose from like Wills Woodbines, Capstan Full Strength,Craven A and many others. One of the great favourites was a cigarette manufactured in Nottingham by John Player Company. It was known throughout the kingdom as "Players Medium Navy Cut", and it was a terrific "fag" to smoke. On the back of the Players cigarette packet there was a picture of Nottingham Castle, very grand it was, surrounded by trees and bushes. There was also supposed to be a little dog in that picture, but one could never find him. Do any of you old smoking codgers know where that little dog really was?

John, New Rochelle, New York, USA.
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