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Ben Wright is joined by the Leader of the Commons, Lucy Powell; Shadow Scotland Secretary, Andrew Bowie; and the new Liberal Democrat MP, Josh Babarinde. They discuss the government's plans to cut NHS waiting lists and further delays to social care reform, and the influence of Elon Musk on British politics. Lara Spirit - political editor of The Times Red Box - brings additional insight and analysis. And on the cusp of Donald Trump's inauguration, Ben speaks to the former Australian Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, about how Keir Starmer and other leaders should approach relations with the President Elect during his second term in office.