In Conversation
From Jane Austen, Toni Morrison and Hollie McNish come shared intimacies and difficult conversations, while musical dialogues abound from Beethoven to Ella Fitzgerald.
From chamber music by Beethoven and Isabella Leonarda to the call and response of Jean Daetwlery’s dialogue between alphorn and piccolo, and the jazz greats Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker: we are celebrating conversation this week, and not just in the way musicians are attuned to each other, listening and responding to every change of harmony and rhythm, but also through words exchanged and overheard.
The poets George Herbert and Margaret Cavendish delight in the dialogue poetic form, pitting man against death; joy against discretion. And in Genesis Abraham doesn’t just commune with God, he challenges Him too.
There are conversations teasing, eavesdropped and ghostly from the pens of Jane Austen, Emily Bronte and Toni Morrison. But it’s the missed intimacies of close friends that Hollie McNish regrets, and the ‘sweet nonsense talking’ that Caleb Femi brings alive. There are gossip mongers plotting in Britten’s Peter Grimes, and a grapevine for Marvin Gaye.
Writers and composers also communicate across the ages, Max Richter shares a tune with Vivaldi, Mozart is infused with Mambo, and the poet Jean Sprackland has the last word in her response to DH Lawrence.
The readers are Gemma Whelan and Clarke Peters.
Producer: Katy Hickman
READINGS:
The Art of Conversation, Catherine Blyth
To Women, As Far as I’m Concerned, DH Lawrence
Feelings, Jean Sprackland
Pride and Prejudice, Jane Austen
Genesis, King James Bible
A Dialogue-Anthem, George Herbert
Beloved, Toni Morrison
Wuthering Heights, Emily Bronte
On Talking, Kahlil Gibran
Nests in Elms, Michael Field
The Club of Queer Trades, GK Chesterton
Conversations with Friends, Sally Rooney
Dialogue between joy and discretion, Margaret Cavendish
Here Too Spring Comes to Us with Open Arms, Caleb Femi
my friends are scattered, Hollie McNish
A Time to Talk, Robert Frost
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Music Played
Timings (where shown) are from the start of the programme in hours and minutes
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00:01
Francis Poulenc
Sonata for flute and piano Op. 164, Presto giocoso
Performer: Sharon Bezaly. Performer: Ronald Brautigam.- Bezaly & Brautigam: Masterworks for Flute and Piano.
- BIS-SACD-1729.
- Tr3.
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Catherine Blyth
Extract from The Art of Conversation, How Talking Improves Lives,John Murray,2008, read by Gemma Whelan
00:04Ludwig van Beethoven
Quintet in E-Flat Major for Piano and Wind Quartet, Op. 16 - 2. Andan
Performer: Sir András Schiff. Performer: Heinz Holliger. Performer: Eduard Brunner. Performer: Radovan Vlatković. Performer: Klaus Thunemann. Performer: Klaus Thunemann.- Beethoven: Septet; Quintet for Piano & Wind Quartet.
- Decca Music Group 00028948340040.
- Tr8.
00:08Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
‘Pa, pa, pa(Papageno)’, Act II, The Magic Flute
Performer: Michael Kraus (Baritone), Lotte Leitner (Soprano), Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Georg Solti (conductor).- Mozart: Die Zauberflote.
- Decca Music Group 28943321020.
- S2 Tr19.
DH Lawrence
To Women, As Far as I’m Concerned,from Answering Back: Living poets reply to the poetry of the past, Picador, 2007; read by Clarke Peters
00:11Edgar Olivero
Pa Pa Pa (inspired by the Papageno/Papagena duet from Mozart's The Magic Flute)
Performer: Sarah Willis. Ensemble: The Sarahbanda.- Mozart y Mambo - Cuban Dances.
- Alpha 878.
- Tr14.
Jean Sprackland
Feelings, from Answering Back, Picador, 2007; read by Gemma Whelan
00:13Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Jordan
Baby It's Cold Outside
- The Greatest Collection.
- Pacific AW8494617.
- Tr11.
00:15Ed Sheeran
Bad habits arr. for string quartet (Inspired by Bridgerton)
Composer: Fred again... Composer: Johnny McDaid. Composer: Music Lab Collective. Music Arranger: Elspeth Mackay. Ensemble: Music Lab Collective.- Music Lab Collective.
- Decca Classics.
- 1.
Jane Austen
Extract from Pride and Prejudice, Everyman’s Library 1906 edition, read by Gemma Whelan
00:16Music Lab Collective
Bad Habits (arr. String quartet), inspired by 'Bridgerton'
- Decca (UMO) Online release on Music Lab Collective's YouTube channel.
- Tr1.
00:18Arvo Pärt
and I heard a voice
Choir: Ars Nova Copenhagen. Conductor: Paul Hillier.- Choral Concert: Ars Nova Copenhagen (…and…).
- Naxos 8.574281.
- Tr14.
King James Bible
Extract from Genesis 18.20-33 read by Clarke Peters
George Herbert
A Dialogue-Anthem, from The Complete Poetry, Penguin Classic, 2015, read by Gemma Whelan and Clarke Peters
00:25George Butterworth
6 Songs from A Shropshire Lad', 'Is my team ploughing?'
Singer: Ian Bostridge. Performer: Sir Antonio Pappano.- Requiem: The Pity of War.
- Warner Classics 0190295661564.
- Tr6.
00:27Béla Bartók
Bartok: Concerto for O rchestra, Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta (3rd mvt) Adagio
Orchestra: Chicago Symphony Orchestra. Conductor: Fritz Reiner.- Bartok: Concerto for Orchestra/ Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta/ Hungarian Sketches.
- RCA Victor 09026 61504 2.
- Tr8.
Toni Morrison
Extract from Beloved, Picador, 1987, read by Clarke Peters
Emily Bronte
Extract from Wuthering Heights,1847, read by Gemma Whelan
00:34Marvin Gaye
I Heard It Through The Grapevine
- In the Groove.
- Motown.
- 4.
00:36Benjamin Britten
Peter Grimes, Act 2, "Fool to let it come to this! People!... No I will speak!
Singer: Jean Watson. Singer: Peter Pears. Orchestra: Orchestra of the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden. Choir: Chorus of the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden. Conductor: Benjamin Britten. Conductor: Benjamin Britten.- Britten: Peter Grimes Label: DECCA 4145772.
- CD2 Tr5.
00:42Isabella Leonora
Sonata Duodecima for Violin Solo and Basso Continuo in D minor, 1. Adagio
Ensemble: Bizzarrie Armoniche.- Donna Baroche.
- Naive.
- 11.
Kahlil Gibran
Extract from On Talking, from The Prophet, 1923,read by Clarke Peters
00:44Einojuhani Rautavaara
Concerto for Birds & Orchestra, Op. 61 "Cantus Arcticus", I. The Bog
Orchestra: Helsinki Philharmonic Orchestra. Conductor: Leif Segerstam.- Finland 100: A Century of Finnish Classics.
- Ondine ODE1300-2Q.
- S3 Tr9.
Michael Field
Nests in Elms, from Wild Honey from Various Thyme,Franklin Classics,1907, read by Gemma Whelan
GK Chesterton
Extract from The Club of Queer Trades,1905, read by Clarke Peters
00:51Charlie Parker-Dizzy Gillespie Quintet
Salt peanuts
- Atmosphere.
- Sinetone AMR 8719497472758.
- Tr4.
00:54Georges Bizet
Carmen, Act II, Nous avons en tete une affaire
Singer: Teresa Berganza. Orchestra: London Symphony Orchestra. Conductor: Claudio Abbado.- 111 Years Of Deutsche Grammophon The Collector's Edition Vol.2.
- Deutsche Grammophon; 4779142.
- S2 Tr6.
Sally Rooney
Conversations with Friends,Faber,2017, read by Gemma Whelan
Johann Strauss II
Tritsch-Tratsch Polka, Op 214, for piano
Music Arranger: Georges Cziffra. Performer: Yuja Wang.- Fantasia.
- Deutsche Grammophon 00028947900528.
- Tr10.
Margaret Cavendish
Dialogue between joy and discretion, 1653, read by Gemma Whelan and Clarke Peters
01:03Max Richter
Spring from The Four Seasons, Recomposed
Composer: Antonio Vivaldi. Performer: Daniel Hope. Orchestra: Konzerthaus Kammerorchester Berlin. Conductor: André de Ridder.- Recomposed By Max Richter, Vivaldi - The Four Seasons.
- Deutsche Grammophon 481-0044.
- Tr2.
Caleb Femi
Here Too Spring Comes to Us with Open Arms,from Poor, Penguin Random House 2020 read by Clarke Peters
01:07Wiley
Eskimo (Interlude)
Performer: Wiley.- Treddin’ On Thin Ice.
- XL Recordings XLDL178 EMI Music.
- Tr4.
01:08A Tribe Called Quest
Can I Kick It?
- The Anthology.
- Jive 0523842.
- Tr4.
Hollie McNish
My friends are scattered across cities now,from Lobster: And Other Things I’m Learning to Love, Fleet, 2024, read by Gemma Whelan
01:11Jean Daetwyler
Dialogue avec la nature for Alphorn, Piccolo and Orchestra
Performer: Jozsef Molnar. Performer: Miroslav Kral. Orchestra: Slovenská filharmónia. Conductor: Urs Schneider.- Alphorn Concertos.
- NAXOS 8.555978.
- Tr4.
Robert Frost
A Time to Talk,from Mountain Interval, publ. Henry Holt, 1916, read by Clarke Peters
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