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Pilot - Francis Bacon

Recorded: circa 1965

This pilot for a live arts discussion programme was never broadcast, although the series that followed ran for over 130 editions. In this excerpt, Julian Jebb interviews Francis Bacon about his contemporaries in the art world, his working practices and his personal philosophies, such as his belief that true abstract painting is nothing more than 'lyrical, charming and decorative'.

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