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Hear a special extended edition of our conversation with American conductor Marin Alsop and Sylvia Caduff, recorded at Sylvia's home in Lucerne.

Caduff was Leonard Bernstein's assistant at the New York Philharmonic, and she became one of the first women to conduct the New York Philharmonic, the Berlin Philharmonic and the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra in the 1960s when it was virtually unheard of for a woman to conduct a top orchestra.

Marin was also mentored by Leonard Bernstein and a generation later has similarly broken new ground for women in conducting - becoming the first female conductor of the last night of the Proms, and with the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra the first to hold a music director post of an American orchestra.

Marin and Sylvia compare notes on their lives in music, their roads to becoming conductors and breaking down barriers for female musicians.

Photo 漏 Amalie R. Rothschild