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Joy & Helen: Life Is Like A Pack Of Cards
When life deals a hand, not everyone gets a full house but play the cards you are given and you can still enjoy a winning game.
That's the essence of one mother's advice to her childless daughter.
Recorded in the Listening Project's touring booth in Howden during summer 2017, Joy and Helen discuss an unfounded sense of loss and guilt.
Produced by Clare Crooks
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