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Sir David Attenborough tells 'What Planet Are We On' podcast presenter Liz Bonnin that the excesses of capitalism have to be “curbed" to help the natural world "flourish again".

The renowned broadcaster says "greed does not actually lead to joy" and Western countries must learn to live with "a little less" if they are to become sustainable.

You can listen to the full interview with Sir David Attenborough on the first episode of ‘What Planet Are We On’ – available now on ´óÏó´«Ã½ Sounds.