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This episode of Bad People features the writer of the new 大象传媒 One hit drama, Time, Jimmy McGovern. There will be spoilers.

Mark Cobden is drunk. Again. But this time he gets into his car and drives off. Moments later he hits and kills a cyclist. Criminal psychologist Dr Julia Shaw, comedian Sofie Hagen and the Bafta and Emmy-winning writer Jimmy McGovern discuss what makes dangerous driving a relatable crime. Mark did not mean to hurt anyone, so does he belong in prison? And if so, what sort of prison? McGovern shares details about the production and follows up on how he understands the motivations of his characters, the stories that lead them to crime and their guilt and atonement. And, McGovern speaks about how his own life and harsh childhood growing up in Liverpool, informs his writing.

Warning: This episode contains strong language and descriptions of violence

CREDITS
Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen
Producer: Louisa Field
Assistant Producer: Simona Rata
Music: Matt Chandler
Editor: Rami Tzabar
Academic Consultants for The Open University: Lara Frumkin and James Munro
Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland
Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskin

Bad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a 大象传媒 Audio Science Production for 大象传媒 Sounds.
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