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Lucy from Stafford and Jenny from Cannock both had their second daughters during the pandemic.

They talk to each other about learning to be mums-of-two during lockdown, juggling toddlers and newborns with no extra help from family and friends, especially for Lucy, whose own mum lives in Spain.

Even though they'd both been through it before, they both talk about the anxiety of birthing without their partners and missing out on mum and baby groups and the maternity leave they've had before.

You can hear the full Lockdown Babies series on 大象传媒 Radio Stoke and 大象传媒 Sounds.