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BONUS EP 10

[00:00:00] ´óÏó´«Ã½ Sounds. Music, radio, podcast. ED: Hello and welcome to your special extra bit of the Traitor's Uncloaked. This is just for you if you're listening on ´óÏó´«Ã½ Sounds. We've still got our fabulous five finalists with us. Evie, Jazz, Molly, Andrew and Harry! And Claudia is still with us

too! Claudia I want to talk to you first. I've got a CLAUDIA: Whatever you want. ED: A lot of burning questions for you. Okay. You mentioned before the series went to air that there was one round table that left you shaking. I think we need to know which one, which one it was and why. CLAUDIA: Okay, there were a few, but I tell you, the night they got Paul, I came out, and there's an amazing crew that work on it.

The cameras are hidden. And we all met, and all of us were physically shaking because it went off. I mean, they threw chairs in the air. This doesn't, normally at the round table, we've got one, well done. I [00:01:00] mean, they don't, like, sort of shake hands, congrats. But it were it. Kicked off. They couldn't believe it and Paul's exit was so amazing because he said he had the time of his life And then he bowed and I was just like This man is a master Um, and Harry banged the table And everybody It just kicked off and it were it felt Electric.

ED: Who threw the chair? Was it you Jazz? JAZZ: Guilty Yeah, no, definitely broke it Um, that was just a moment. Absolutely. You have to have checkpoints, I think, just to get through that game. And I said to myself, I need to get Paul out. I need to. I don't care how far I get. I just need that guy out. Um, the thing is, he lives five minutes away from me.

I'm still waiting for that pint. And, um, but he just played an absolute blinder. And I could see him playing it. That everyone was just warming to him. Because he's such, he's that [00:02:00] affectionate. personable type of character that you can just draw yourself to. And when I thought, I could just see it, I thought, you know what?

And then he put it on me, that round table. He says, your behavior's changed. I'm like, that's it? What are you on about? And then, yeah, from there onwards it was, it was, let's go for part time. ED: So, the behaviors change thing, I think, hopefully you guys agree that we've got to phase that out next series as a reason someone might be a traitor.

Because surely, as soon as the traitor is selected, everyone's behavior changed regardless of whether they're a traitor or a faithful, right? JAZZ: Oh mate, you can blink and people use that as an excuse. MOLLIE: Yeah. I think you just like have so little to go off, you will pick up on anything. It like drives you crazy.

JAZZ: And like, I mean, I was getting judged for not going more for Paul. I mean, the first conversation I had was with Ross and Jasmine, because them two were the two that I trusted the most, like, early on in the process. So when we had that chat outside, I was like, he is the guy that you need to go for. Um, and then I thought, you know [00:03:00] what?

The best thing to do was spread my seeds with the people that get on me. ED: Do you think you can use a different phrase? JAZZ: Oh, wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow. Jesus. What was it? CLAUDIA: You know what, it's just not that show. JAZZ: Yeah, cut that bit out. ED: You're an incredibly erudite man, Chaz, but I think we could pick a better phrase than that, couldn't we?

JAZZ: I thought, I'm gonna tell Harry, and one of them three's got to be a traitor, so to be honest It was intentional. I thought one of them's got, they're strong characters, one of them's got to be a traitor. This is going to feed into that conversation, and I'll find out whether Paul's a traitor or not. ED: Sorry, I'm still thinking about the seeds thing.

Claudia, I want to ask you about that funeral day, because That is already one of the most iconic things in British television, I think. CLAUDIA: Well, it was, so, Sarah, who's my boss, had said, because they're so sweet, they said, this is what, we're going to do this. And I was like, wow, that sounds amazing. But then the idea that it was our heroine, that it [00:04:00] was Diane, and I, and that her son would be walking behind her.

And then, even though somebody had mentioned horses, I must have, You know, I'm 52, I forget stuff, I'm like, Ooh, biscuits! And, and I got all ready, I did ask for a veil, I was like, thank you! Uh, and then I come out, and I see the whore, and there's a, and there's a big carriage, and I was like, Oh, we're doing this.

Cool. Absolutely cool. I thought it was unbelievable. And Ross was extraordinary, because that would be hard for anyone. I couldn't look at him. And Yeah, sorry, babe. And you. Uh, for the two of you, it was quite something. For, I think, everybody in the cast, it was It went dark, but hopefully good, if that's not too strange.

Um, yeah, I think, uh, I know, [00:05:00] I know I've mentioned them before, so the people who make this show are the stars of the show, and they are extraordinary, and the idea that they could better series one, where you send two people away, and they have all of these ideas, and they're like, yeah, we're gonna do this.

We're going to do a slow death. It was just unreal. And, you know, hats off also to the ´óÏó´«Ã½. I remember when series one was commissioned, I had a meeting with the boss going, so we're using these words? Is everyone all right with these, with these words? And she was like, yeah. And they went, go for it. ED: Slow death.

CLAUDIA: Slow death, murder, all of it. Okay. ED: Love it. It was certainly one of the, I think, the most iconic moments in the series. But I do want to know from all of our finalists what was the most memorable part of the whole experience. So let's, let's start with you, Evie. EVIE: Probably lying in a coffin, staring up in the woods, and Claudio Winkleman just over me.

Like, that was one of the moments where I was like, what am I doing right now? Like, what am I doing? Yeah, it was very memorable, yeah. ED: What about you, Andrew? ANDREW:  I loved the [00:06:00] first mission. The first mission was amazing. But the funny thing when Mollie said the benefit on one hand, we all got tied up against a pole, and it was tied really tight.

And I was, they said to me, you can't break the pole. So I had to just try and undo it. I was going to snap the pole, but I wasn't allowed, so ED: How quickly did they have to jump in and say that to you, Andrew? ANDREW: Sorry? How quickly did they have to jump in and say that to you? Before it started. We had health and safety briefing.

You can't snap the pole or break the pole. Great, that's my plan. Go on. And then I looked across and Mollie stuck her hand up to the ben Literally, in a couple of seconds after being tied up, I want you to see the benefit of having one hand. That was just the start of the show. That was brilliant. That stuck with me all the way.

It was brilliant. ED: What about you, Jaz? JAZZ: Uh, I think it's got to be the round table, the fire Well, the fire pit. Right at the, yeah, right at the end. I was just blown away with the fact that Mollie wanted to end the game previously. So when she ended the game there, I thought, Wow, you know, she actually does trust me and she believes that I'm a faithful.

That speaks volumes. It was because [00:07:00] of me wanting to banish again. I almost put Mollie in that position to choose out of me and Harry. MOLLIE: That was my favourite moment, too. LAUGHTER APPLAUSE ED: What, what was it really, Mollie? What will you take from the experience? MOLLIE: Oh, I'll take so much. I mean, the friends we've made is amazing, but, um, I think a special moment was when we got in the helicopter and you're like, the final five and I just thought, I can't wait to tell my parents, because I remember they watched it last year, and we watched the final mission, like, again, just before I kind of went in.

And they were all laughing, like, imagine if that's you, like, so funny, like, saying, basically, I could never get there. Um, and then, um, and then, yeah, I remember being in there and being like, I can't wait to tell my parents that I got to the final. I'm in the helicopter. So, yeah, it was a really good time, and the mission was amazing as well, so.

ED: And Harry, aside from the fact you won the whole thing, what was your favourite moment of your time there? [00:08:00] HARRY: I mean, that's a difficult one, because big ups, like, cost, like, series two, because the laughs and the stuff we had was amazing, but mine has to be the missions as well, like The first one, like, when me and Mollie were working together, we thought we probably had a chance, but we're, like, clearly so thick, because we got the first question wrong.

And I went head first into the mud. Like, and I, I, I thought it was a net. So, I was like to Mollie, yeah, like, and the funniest thing was, like, I was like, I'll do it, Mollie, expecting her to be like, no, no, no, let's play rock, paper, scissors. She turned around and was like, yeah, go on, you go, you go. And I was like, oh, I thought we were sort of like a team and we were just going to have a bit.

MOLLIE: I'm very glad that I didn't go for that, because I feel like that's a little bit of karma for you, just a tiny, tiny bit. HARRY: And I was freezing cold as well, like that's the coldest, sludgiest thing, and I'd hate being dirty anyway. But on top of that, I mean, like you've seen in the end when we was abseiling down that cliff, right?

I've never seen anything so funny. I don't even know if you can tell, but like Andrew the [00:09:00] Giant, who I've looked up to like doing this, and one minute I saw his head smiling at me, the next I turned and looked back, all I saw was two trainers. I just heard screaming in Welsh accent and I couldn't stop dying.

And I remember Andrew screaming at me for like, he was like, Support me, support me, encourage me, I was like, Man, I feel sorry for the cliff. You're bashing the cliff. I was like, the cliff's taking damage. Like, that beast, like, And that, I literally, I was laughing the whole time. And also, again, like, big up Evie and Mollie, because I would've went first straight away.

Like, because, why not? But they, like, especially Mollie, was like, no, I'll do it, I'll do it. So, yeah, that was amazing. MOLLIE: I really love a bit of, like, thrill, so, that mission was great. Really enjoyed it. What about you, Andrew? Did you enjoy that part? ANDREW:  Loved it. Favourite part, I loved it. I mean, all I could look at, I could see his smiling face at the top, looking, you're doing really well, Andrew.

ED: It was how quickly you went upside down. CLAUDIA: You're floating. ED: Yeah, floating. It was just the immediacy of it, when [00:10:00] you got off the edge of the cliff, your whole body just went, whoop, like that. ANDREW:  Yeah, my life flashed before my eyes again. Come on, he made the joke.

ED: I want to ask you a question, Jazz. Uh, now you had a couple of, a couple of misses, even though you had a lot of hits, majority hits. Uh, but most notably Miles, uh, was a bit of a miss. What made you convinced? that he wasn't a traitor despite all of the evidence that was stacked up against him? JAZZ: Ed, I still think he's faithful.

Um, he, that guy, he was just under the radar. Again, he got on with everyone, but he just Nothing changed with Miles. He was just there. He just controlled it so well, controlled his emotions. And he just, I think I was sat outside with him. Um, and it was just me and him, and I'm telling him all my theories and my, you know, and he, and he's s nodding and he's like this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then not once did it think, come on, give me something back. But he didn't. He just played an absolute blinder. Um. And that's when I thought, oh my [00:11:00] god, I'm gonna look like a proper idiot. Because the whole room's just gone for Miles, and I haven't. So I thought, like, my head's fully on the chopping block.

Um, but yeah, he played, he played a great game. ED: There was a lot of people being very definite about things in this series, especially at the round table, which is a really bold move. JAZZ: Yeah. ED: Mainly to, using the phrase. If they're a traitor, kill me tomorrow. Things like that. JAZZ: Ultimatums. There are so many of them.

ED: Yeah. Um, Evie, do you think you would have changed anything about your game, looking back at it now and having watched the series? EVIE: It's one of those things where, like, I was obviously, like, a quieter character in, in this season. Um, I think people forget that being quiet is also a gameplay. I think we look at gameplay as, you know, stabbing people in the back or, like, deceiving people and things like that.

But actually, it's, it's almost not enough in this game to just figure out who a traitor is. You know, it's a social deduction game. You know, you need to make sure that you've got allies and bonds and, and, you know, you need to be convincing with your theories and Also coherent, you need to be understandable, um, so I think that I would like [00:12:00] to think at least that I played a good game in that sense of the word, but I think that was the problem with, with Jazz, is that he was bang on the money, like so often, and he would look me dead in the eye, and he told me exactly why Harry was a traitor, and I was like, Shut up, Jaz.

ED: That was an amazing, totally amazing moment, especially after Jaz was right about Paul, and then he sat down with, I think, you and Zach, and said, I think Harry's a traitor. I trust you two. I think Harry's a traitor. And Pfft, come on, man. EVIE: Nah, nah. ED: We're screaming at the telly going, Listen to Jaz! EVIE: In fact, I was Screaming as well.

That was the most complicated thing. 'cause I think it's, it's, it's really strange. 'cause now I've done season one watching as a viewer and now I've done season two as a contestant and like viewer's privilege is such a big thing. CLAUDIA: There you go. EVIE: It is like, viewer's privilege is such a big thing. 'cause I sat at home and watched season one and was like, how have they not getting wealth?

Or like, why are they all crying? And then when Brian got voted out, I was bawling my eyes out, . So I was so uncomfortable. And um, and yeah, you get, you do, you get close to these people and I think. At home, [00:13:00] it's a very, it's a, it's easy to watch it and, and say, Oh my God, look at him smiling, look at him licking his teeth or everything.

HARRY: The best analogy would be like, for people at home, it's like, you play Where's Wally? If you know where Wally is, it's easy to look at the paper and see him straight away. So like, whereas, when, like, If you know, if you understand where I'm coming from. It's like the best way to explain it, whereas when you don't know where Wally is, you're there trying to look for ages.

So like, when, when you're in the castle MOLLIE: It's a good job that you didn't have to find traitors. CLAUDIA: Our winner, ladies and gentlemen. Harry, how HARRY: I thought that was a good analogy. ED: It is a good analogy, but I think the question I want to ask is, how long does it take you to find Wally? A long, long time. ANDREW:  Types of books he reads.

ED: I want to ask you all about the massive, uh, Diane and Ross revelation. Oh my God. Obviously you all, you all found out at the round table when, when Ross was banished. ANDREW:  How, how did you all feel about that? How did you react? It was amazing. Like I say, when you watch it back, you can see, it's obvious when Ross takes his glasses off, he looks obvious.

EVIE: They look identical. ANDREW:  When you're in there. [00:14:00] EVIE: They look so, they look identical. And I did a mission, I did a mission with him that day, but he had his glasses off. And I'm looking at it, I'm being like, why was I not putting that together? Like, why was I not? It's so odd. ANDREW:  The accents, I think, throw you off, don't they?

Yeah. The accents are totally different. So it's crazy when you There was ED: Because that's totally right. Because, of course, a mother and son can have different accents, but you just don't think about that. There was a wonderful moment where you said, I think, in the corridor, Molly, after the revelation, you went, so is he Irish?

ANDREW:  There's lots of good revelations. I think one revelation, me and Miles were a couple, as well as another revelation, and then me and Miles were married. JAZZ: Wait, I thought you were. ANDREW:  Shh, don't tell my partner. CLAUDIA: It was Zach, because Zach was convinced, he was like, hold on, there was boyfriend, girlfriend, there'll be a father and a son, or a mother and a son, and he went, I've got it, guys.

And then Diane's revelation was just extraordinary. ED: Just absolutely amazing. You two were incredible. Um, I do want to talk, uh, Mollie. We saw, we saw the sort of very much the lighter side of you. You're clearly a lovely person. [00:15:00] We want to hear a little bit more about if there's a darker side. If you'd been a traitor If you'd had that privilege put on you, who would've been the first person that you murdered?

MOLLIE: Harry . I couldn't have been a traitor. No way. I, I just, I was stressed out enough as it was, but I think that on top of it would've killed me off, to be honest. ED: Um, Andrew, we Massive fan of you on Uncloaked. Thank you. We talk, we, we talk about you a lot on Uncloaked. Um, there was an amazing moment after you were recruited.

Uh, where you, it was your first, first day as a traitor, you walked into breakfast and I want to say you got way better as a traitor. But that moment where you knew that you had to listen to all the conversations and your way of doing that was ANDREW:  Subtle. ED: Literally walking behind the conversation. ANDREW:  Standing right over them, yeah, yeah.

ED: What was it like on that first morning when you were a traitor and you were just thrown into breakfast? ANDREW:  I was just too busy thinking about the food, to be honest with . And every, every time it's on telly, people say to me, all you're doing is [00:16:00] eating. I said, are they superimposed? I wasn't really eating all the time, so I was too busy thinking the food read to think who the traitors were.

So, uh, it was, it was tough. Changed my game plan completely. And yeah, it was hard. I, I thought before the show, I could do both roles quite easily, but then when it, when it actually happened, it was really, it was much harder than I thought, to be honest. Yeah, my, I got guilty and it was, it was really tough.

ED: You're incredible in the missions though, regardless of whether you're a tracer or a fighter. ANDREW:  Apart from the abseiling. ED: Apart from the abseiling. ANDREW:  And the light mission where I got caught in about three seconds. ED: All of the other missions, apart from those two, you were fantastic. How important were the missions to you as part of the game?

ANDREW:  They're very important, I suppose. I like the physical challenge, I do a lot of training myself, so physical. ED: Really? ANDREW:  Always been a team player. Yeah, so I've always been a team, I've always liked team sports, so I think, yeah, it's good to be part of the team. I want to do well for the team. Whoever the eventual winner was, Harry, would obviously do well for the money in the pot and the prize fund, but I am competitive and I like to do well, so, uh, I really enjoyed the missions.

ED: There was a particular part, actually, and I don't know why it sort of made me emotional, but also just really delighted. It's where you and Jasmine [00:17:00] were just caning it through the woods. And Jasmine's talking about how you both play rugby, and you were just legging it through the woods. It was just It was wonderful.

You both look so free and happy. ANDREW:  And I got her caught. And she got caught in the net because of me. She went for one answer and for the other. We went for my answer and she got caught in the net. The traitor's uncloaked. I'm Morgan Freeman and this is Six Degrees from Jamie and Spencer. You know what, Spence?

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ED: Before we send you all off into the sunset, a few questions for you. Um, who do you think the faithful was that you [00:18:00] feared the most? HARRY: That's a tricky one. Definitely Diane from the start. I'm still scared of Diane now. Yeah. Like, from the off, obviously, when I was, like, it was such a high pressured environment.

And we was blindfolded for ages, and then when I was tapped, I don't know why I licked my lips, by the way. I must have had dry mouth. But like, when I was tapped, and then as soon as I took them off, Diane sort of stuck it on me. I was like, you've cheated. I was like, I've been caught. I was like, you know, heads down, thumbs up in school.

I was trying, I was trying to cheat, but the blindfolds like, blindfolded, like properly, like they're good blindfolds. So I couldn't cheat, but I thought she had cheated and somehow knew it was me straight away. So that was the first time I was like, oh my gosh, like this is serious. I've got to somehow. get this off of me, but she actually genuinely cared about me, which I was like shocked about because I thought she actually just had cheated and saw it was me like underneath.

And then yeah, so I was scared about Diane, but it's sort of, it always changes, doesn't it? Because you lose faithfuls and you banish people at the same time. So. You just, you gotta be [00:19:00] wary of everyone, really, even when it comes to traitors. I mean, you've seen, like, relationships, like, Paul, my, like, Paul, myself, me and Ash, me and Miles, like, we all loved each other, but this series was, like, we were all against each other.

It's like a Royal Rumble in there, like, like you, like you've seen, in, in there, it was me, I vote for every single traitor. So it was, like, I sort of had no loyalty, so. Not only was I weary of every faithful, I was just as scared of every traitor. ED: Do you think, do you think traitor loyalty could ever come back into the game?

Because the first series there was a little bit, right? They were working together before they eventually turned on each other. CLAUDIA: I think it will. Do you think so? EVIE: I think, I think you need women. HARRY: Well. I said this actually, I said to be honest. It makes me laugh, because if there's anything I've learned in 22 years of my life, it's women's always right.

So that's why they're probably always murdered, because I didn't want to be put on the spot by them. Um, but yeah, that's the best way to explain it. ED:  I want to talk about the recruitments, actually, and the selection of the recruits. By that point in the game, were you just looking to recruit fellow traitors who [00:20:00] you could immediately throw on?

HARRY: No, no, no. Mine, like, it was more like, um, more It's like Well, yeah, I guess so. ED:  You don't need to lie anymore, man. It's over. HARRY: But no, it was more like the best plan was always someone who's popular and like, has suspicion on them anyway. Because if it comes down to it, if you're a traitor, you're always going to need that traitor to fall before you to stay in the game.

So, like, as anyone's game plan was, like If you're always the second to fall, then you're never going to leave the game and like make it to the end. So that was like a big thing for me. Yeah, everyone that was sort of recruited had a bit of suspicion on them, but also had influence. So then it was like, if they came for me, it was like, okay, well you've done this, this and this sort of thing.

So yeah. ED: Uh, when we had Paul on Uncloaked, uh, Paul said that it was always his plan to stick with you and go right through to the end game. Would that have been your plan as well? Would you have liked to have stuck with Paul right to the end? HARRY: Yeah, I mean, [00:21:00] like, it was hard because obviously, like, like, not saying everyone else, like, didn't deserve it, but like, Paul done so much as a traitor to bring the game and, like, the joy and the evilness into the game.

It was like, if there was anyone I wanted to sort of be with, it was him. It was like, My, like, sort of master Jedi, who I was learning bits off, and then he obviously was learning from me, I think, anyways. But it was like, I wanted to, like, stay with him as long as we could, but because I feel like we were both traitors from the start and OGs, one of us was always going to fall, and then it was like, well, David beats Goliath because Paul is absolutely massive.

So it was like, me, a little boy beats a giant, but it was always going to happen. Um, and it was just waiting for the time that it came about. ED: I like that you were both in there assuming the other one was learning from you. Yeah, I know. HARRY: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's funny. ED: Now, Harry, you were one of the key players when it came to the missions.

Uh, I want to talk about the final one, where you did struggle a little bit in the open seas. HARRY: Yeah, I know. Tell me about it. I always thought I'd make [00:22:00] a good pirate as well. I love watching pirate movies and stuff. And I was like, well, I'm never gonna make a good pi Like, I'd have to be a land pirate at best.

So, it's like, that sort of let me down because I never knew I was that seasick. Because I've never really been on a boat. Like, I've been on a cruise ship, and sort of, when I looked over the balcony, I was a bit like, oh yeah, this is a bit ED: The idea is he was a land pirate. Yeah, a land pirate. Everyone else is thinking, Ah, where's Harry?

He's on the shore doing his Where's Wally. Yeah.

HARRY: I'd just like guard the treasure or something on the island and everyone can just sort of go and sail, but I'd just like sort of Watch from the shore, because I can't, I don't think I can ever do a boat again after that, it was bad. And I remember there was a bit where Claudia came to ask me if I was okay, and I was like, trust me, my breath's gonna stink, I've just been sick like four times, like, you're not gonna want to talk.

CLAUDIA: It was so rough. HARRY: Yeah, I mean, it did look it. CLAUDIA: It was like, at one, like, we lost crew members, I mean, they were fine, it's not forever. We fished them back out, there's an amazing girl who we had to like, just grab by the back, it was, it [00:23:00] was intense. HARRY: Yeah. ED: Um, there was a moment as well where, it, the, on the ship, it was just you and Andrew being sick.

It was like, this is what we need, next series, just look for who's seasick and they're definitely the traitors. HARRY: Yeah, I think, I think I sort of like I guess, like, started everyone off, because everyone was like, fine, yes, we've just won twenty grand, and I'm sort of like, going and going, and they got slowly, like, more worried about me, but then while they were watching me, they, sort of, I feel like, I brought them on with the sickness, and they was like, got involved at the same time, so then we all just, it felt like we was all throwing up, because Mollie was throwing up at the end as well.

MOLLIE: I was like, sorry Claudia, sorry. Yeah, I just started. CLAUDIA: You were so cute, I was like, Molly, what can I do, don't, don't get involved, I can't. It's like, but they did it, they did it in the time. ED: Um, Molly, I wanted to ask you, if there was one piece of advice that you could give to yourself at the beginning of the game, what would that be?

MOLLIE: I think, once you start making connections and friends, you kind of need someone to trust in there. So I think just looking at everyone is [00:24:00] really, really important. Like, no matter how much in your gut, like, you don't think it. They are a traitor, I think. And, I think as well, like, just for that, I wasn't in any conversations.

When Harry was being brought up, like, I've watched the series back, and whenever Jazz is talking to someone, or Andrew was, like, putting it in someone's ear, I was just, like, off. I don't know what I was doing. But I don't think I ever heard anyone speak about him. Yeah, I was probably speaking to Harry. But, yeah.

So, I think maybe ask more questions to the rest of the group. Like, always make sure you're getting everyone's ideas. Um, yeah. ED: But then even that, I think you did a good job to not do too much of that because that raises people's suspicions as well. I mean, Ash was going round person to person and chatting to people and that was the first thing that got called out.

MOLLIE: I mean, I do want to say as well, I didn't get one vote at the round table. I didn't get one vote at the round table. JAZZ: It was a great show. ED: Was there anyone else who didn't get one vote? Charlie, you didn't get a vote either, did you? No, [00:25:00] MOLLIE: well done, Charlie. JAZZ: Also, can I just say about Charlie, um, you know, out of everyone that I spoke to, like, right at the early, you know, when you first start the game, you want to put in as much effort as possible, just so you've got some form of common ground with everyone.

And Charlie was the only person that I didn't really speak to. And we would just, like, look at each other, like And be like, you're not my cup of tea, you're not my cup of tea. And then during the weeks went on, me and Charlie spoke a lot and it was just crazy. Every time we got the chance to speak, we were getting interrupted by a bong or it's mission time or something like that.

Not a bong. ANDREW:  Not a bong. JAZZ: Not a bong. ANDREW:  Wrong show again. JAZZ: What series is that? It was literally just like, you know what, Charlie, we need the chance to speak, but we just never got the chance, um, but Charlie, just want to say you are [00:26:00] amazing. Yay. Look at this. ED: Love it. Yeah. Total lovin Um, Harry, I want to ask you finally, just to wrap up this ´óÏó´«Ã½ Sounds extra bit.

You said that you really wanted to take your whole family out for dinner. Have you, have you managed to do that yet? Have you taken them out for a big meal? HARRY: No, I still haven't got a pot to pee in, so I'm just waiting, and then when I take this gold home tonight, hopefully I can do that, so, yeah. ANDREW:  Like a pirate.

Yeah. ED: The land pirate has collected gold. HARRY: But as soon as I can, I will do, honestly. I can't wait. ED: Well, thank you all so much for joining us for this final extra bonus bit. Uh, it's been an honour and a privilege hosting Traitors Uncloaked and meeting all of you wonderful people. And if you need a boost while you're ripping open scarecrows in search of money, or if you just love the music in this series of The Traitors, then you can hear our favourite tracks from the show in ´óÏó´«Ã½ Sounds right now.

Just search TV Soundtracks. Thank you one final time to Claudia, Evie, Andrew, Jazz, Mollie and Harry, and thank you all for staying with us on Uncloaked. Goodbye![00:27:00]

ED: The Traitors Uncloaked was a listen production for ´óÏó´«Ã½ Sounds. The producers were David Bonero, Georgia Arendelle, and Aidan Judd. The production coordinators were Tam Reynolds and Charlotte Hanbury. The production manager was Sarah Shah. The executive producers for Listen were Susie Grant and Darby Doris.

It was commissioned by Saeeda Artizali, Neil McCallum, and Louise Kattenhorn. With thanks to our production runner, Aaron Hamilton, dubbing mixer, Adam Jahari, sound supervisor, Paul Bryant, sound assistant, Brendan Gormley, script writer, Matty Crosby, and assistant producer, Jake Williams.

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