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#358 - Jimmy Grief

Today John punctures his silence with a man, who unlike him, ultimately revels in conversation.

John鈥檚 been on a silent retreat. Today he breaks his silence with a man, who unlike him, ultimately revels in conversation. One who would discuss the career stats of Leon Britton until the heat death of the universe.

It鈥檚 a big one on one between two intellectual heavyweights. Think 大象传媒 Four or late night TV of the past whereby two great minds would just melt out reflections to biggen your brain by osmosis. Or alternatively it鈥檚 just a big old chat about guff management. A changed man and Elis just shooting the (psychological) breeze.

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