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Ruby Wax began her career as a classically trained actor. She鈥檚 also starred in sitcoms, made documentaries and done celebrity interviews. Now she鈥檚 best known as a mental health campaigner. In this bonus episode she opens up to Amol about her difficult upbringing, the highs and lows of her career and the art of the celebrity interview.

Details of support with mental health are available at bbc.co.uk/actionline.

Regular episodes of The Today Podcast with Amol Rajan and Nick Robinson drop on Thursday mornings. Subscribe to The Today Podcast on 大象传媒 Sounds so you don鈥檛 miss an episode and you can also listen any time on your smart speaker by saying 鈥淪mart Speaker, ask 大象传媒 Sounds to play The Today Podcast.鈥�

Amol and Nick are both presenters of 大象传媒 Radio 4鈥檚 Today programme. Amol was the 大象传媒鈥檚 media editor for six years and is the former editor of the Independent, he鈥檚 also the current presenter of University Challenge. Nick was the 大象传媒鈥檚 political editor for ten years before and was also ITV鈥檚 political editor.

The senior producer was Lewis Vickers, the producer was Hatty Nash, the editor was Louisa Lewis and the executive producer was Owenna Griffiths. Technical production from Jeremy Morgan and digital production from Charlie Henry.