Aislin McGuckin:My husband.
Jonathan Slinger:I have done the deed.
Michael Boyd:We're right at the nub of it here. Where he has steeled himself to point where he is capable of doing this terrible act which all of us would find very difficult - murder.
Michael Boyd:He's consciously closed his eyes to what's wrong about what he's doing and he's gone in and he's committed the deed.
Aislin McGuckin:My husband.
Jonathan Slinger:I have done the deed.
Aislin McGuckin:"I have done the deed" is there, palpably in front of her.
Jonathan Slinger:Didst thou not hear a noise?
Aislin McGuckin:But very, very quickly it's obvious to her that he's he has done the deed but the fallout is now becoming evident and he's crumbling, which cannot happen.
Jonathan Slinger:I had most need of blessing, and 'Amen' stuck in my throat.
Aislin McGuckin:These deeds must not be thought after these ways - so, it will make us mad.
Michael Boyd:He's terrified. His status has plummeted from being the brightest of the bright to being something… halting, hesitating, stuttering and self-hating.
Michael Boyd:Can we try both of you maybe major on quite how appalling this is and quite how terrifying it is to have murdered a king and see what that does.
Aislin McGuckin:Consider it not so deeply.
Jonathan Slinger:But wherefore could I not pronounce 'Amen.' I had most need of blessing, and 'Amen' stuck in my throat.
Aislin McGuckin:These deeds must not be thought after these ways so, it will make us mad.
Aislin McGuckin:I was entering into the same hysteria which is something that she can't do. What she feels and what she can show don't tally.
Michael Boyd:So let's put you back into your sort of iron maiden of confidence that you've got to be in. But the main thing we're thinking about this time is the clash between her super-competency and his unravelling.
Aislin McGuckin:Consider it not so deeply.
Jonathan Slinger:Wherefore could I not pronounce 'Amen'? I had most need of blessing, and 'Amen' stuck in my throat.
Aislin McGuckin:These deeds must not be thought after these ways so it will make us mad.
Michael Boyd:She starts by trying to support him. Maintain the front of lover quite maternal lover almost, very supportive lover.
Jonathan Slinger:Still it cried 'Sleep no more!' to all the house: 'Glamis hath murder'd sleep, and therefore Cawdor shall sleep no more; Macbeth shall sleep no more.'
Aislin McGuckin:Sshh!
Aislin McGuckin:Who was it that thus cried? Why, worthy thane, you do unbend your noble strength, to think so brainsickly of things.
Aislin McGuckin:I genuinely felt there that if I don't care for this man now he's gonna go, and that was me being competent.
Jonathan Slinger:The more competent she tries to be the more it becomes-- the more the scene is about, "Take this seriously."
Michael Boyd:Well it was interesting that wasn't it?
Jonathan Slinger:It becomes more about, "Join me. I need you to join me in my in how awful this is."
3300:03:40:04 00:03:52:21Michael Boyd:Eventually the strain of the situation does get to her and she starts to blame him and indeed she resents him. She's angry, she's impatient.
Michael Boyd:Then there's a massive moment where you see that, like a fool, he's brought for the first time, you notice he's brought the daggers out from the room when the whole point is they've got to be left with the guards so that they are assumed to have done the killing.
Aislin McGuckin:Go get some water and wash this filthy witness from your hand. Why did you bring these daggers from the place? They must lie there. Go carry them and smear the sleepy grooms with blood.
Michael Boyd:Could we try this time, "I love you [KISS], I love you [KISS], I love you [KISS], you poor thing." The way we look after our lovers if they're in a terrible state. You don't just go, "There, there." You kiss, you reassure sensually as well. And then, let's just say, just as an exercise, you the realisation about the daggers, "Damn you!"
Michael Boyd:It goes from, "I love you. I care for you. It's alright, darling." to, "Damn you."
Aislin McGuckin:OK.
Aislin McGuckin:Go get some water and wash this filthy witness from your hands. Why did you bring these daggers from the place? They must lie there. Go carry them and smear the sleepy grooms with blood.
Aislin McGuckin:This is her highest point. She'll never be quite so high again. She's carried him through the devastating act of murder in order to get the crown on her head and on his.
Aislin McGuckin:Give me the daggers.
Michael Boyd:Macbeth has constantly been talking about, "We're going to have to pay for this." She has always put that out of mind and she will pay for it later with her mental collapse.
Aislin McGuckin:The sleeping and the dead are but as pictures. 'Tis the eye of childhood that fears a painted devil. If he do bleed, I'll gild the faces of the grooms withal for it must seem their guilt.