Naomi Wilkinson:
Next up. How to compose your own music and give it your own unique sound. To inspire you, we've got a piece that features a very unusual solo instrument. Alongside the world class musicians of the 大象传媒 Philharmonic, you're about to see four times world DJ Champion, Mr Switch in action in a piece called, Concerto for Turntables and Orchestra.
Alex James:
But before that, let's meet the man who came up with this incredible composition, mixing two very different musical styles together. Welcome, Gabriel Prokofiev: .
Naomi Wilkinson:
Gabriel, welcome. Lovely to see you. Thank you for joining us for our live lesson. Now, you are not auditioning for the apprentice with that music. It has a very different meaning for you, doesn't it?
Gabriel Prokofiev:
Yeah. Well I knew that piece long before it was used for the apprentice 'cause actually it was written by my grandfather, Sergei Prokofiev.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Wow.
Gabriel Prokofiev:
And yes, I've heard that a lot. And yes sometimes it's like, oh not again, but it's, no I'm really inspired by his work, sometimes intimidated, and it took me quite a while to get in to composing classical music. I actually started doing music by playing in bands and doing electronic music and hip hop. And that's what led me to actually composing a concerto for turntables, because I was really interested in bringing different genres into the classical world.
Alex James:
And concerto's are usually written for a solo instrument like a cello or a violin in an orchestra, not turntables.
Gabriel Prokofiev:
Exactly, yeah. It's not your typical classical instrument, but I think when you have a great musician like, Mr Switch playing, it actually rivals the violin or the piano. The thing is, it doesn't have any of it's own sounds, so you have to find new sounds for the turntable to play. So we had to record samples, for Mr Switch to actually scratch with and manipulate.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Okay. Alpesh, can I just ask you, because it sounds like, Gabriel might be keeping you on your toes with this piece. Is it quite a tough one to conduct a DJ?
Alpesh Chauhan:
Well as Gabriel said, often we have a soloist here, who's a violinist or a clarinettist or anything, Instruments that you see in front of you now playing the concerto. We just treat the DJ as one of those instruments, as a soloist. And he does, we still want to give him his freedom to do what he wants to do. And it's a great instrument in that he can improvise so freely and do so many different things.
Naomi Wilkinson:
So you just have to keep a close eye on each other?
Alpesh Chauhan:
Exactly, yeah.
Alex James:
Okay, well it's time to get you lot involved. Gabriel, what task are you going to set for our audience here in the studio and for everyone watching around the country?
Gabriel Prokofiev:
Well I would like everyone to listen to the piece, and particularly focus on what Mr Switch is doing, and try and work out what are the sounds that we've recorded and put on the turntables. Now, the piece begins with one sound, that is the kind of main sound he uses throughout, and then in the middle of the piece he starts taking new sounds, and has almost a battle with the orchestra. So I want everyone to really listen and try and work out what are the original sounds that he samples.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Okay, identifying those instruments?
Gabriel Prokofiev:
Yeah.
Alex James:
Okay everyone, you can make notes about what samples you think Mr Switch is using on the composition worksheets or you can just listen. So here it is, Gabriel's Concerto for Turntables and Orchestra. This is the fifth movement featuring, Mr Switch.
Naomi Wilkinson:
That was totally fantastic. What a unique, unusual sound. Mr Switch, I have no idea how you do that, but hats off to you, that was amazing. So do you think you might have nailed what instruments were used there? There was a few confused faces, a few confident nods. Tell us, what instruments were sampled there?
Gabriel Prokofiev:
Well it is difficult, because once you start scratching with the sounds and manipulate them, they do change quite a lot.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Yeah.
Gabriel Prokofiev:
The main sounds that, Mr Switch uses at the beginning comes from the strings, all of the strings playing pizzicato, that's when they pluck. And that's you hear them play at the very beginning. And he's actually playing the same material as them, just kind of stopping it and starting it, and then reversing it.
Naomi Wilkinson:
What here?
Gabriel Prokofiev:
And then he slows it down backwards, and that suddenly creates a very different sound.That's the [INAUDIBLE] That's reversed. And then after that in the middle section, you hear, he starts using a drum sound, a bass drum, then there's a cymbal crash, and then there's a snare drum, and then little bits of brass. A bit of brass hits from the trumpets, the trombones and the horns. And he kind of mixes them together and does that battle against them.
Naomi Wilkinson:
So it's quite a lot of instruments. If you put any of those, you got it right. Well done. But you don't have to just use traditional musical instruments, do you?
Gabriel Prokofiev:
No, not at all. I mean for this piece, I felt the best way for the turntables to work nicely with an orchestra, would be to use the sounds from the orchestra, so they really are in the same sound world. I think, you know, with an orchestra, if you use sounds that are too different, it might not really sit together properly, but you can actually put any sound into turntables or a computer or sampler. So yeah.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Yeah, a little bit.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Well it's funny you say that, because Alex is with some members of our audience who have got some everyday household objects, haven't you Alex?
Alex James:
Yes indeed-y. Rosie has some Velcro, Spike has a ballon, and what have you got Verity?
Verity:
A whistle.
Alex James:
A whistle.
Naomi Wilkinson:
And a whistle.
Alex James:
So can we make it work do you think?
Naomi Wilkinson:
Okay. So, Mr Switch you're gonna record these sounds into your turntables, and then see what you can do with them.
Mr Switch:
Indeed.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Right, so one at a time we're gonna play your instrument.
Alex James:
Up to the microphone. Give it a鈥
Mr Switch:
Lovely, wonderful.
Alex James:
Good job. You are mental.
Mr Switch:
And last sound, please.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Okay. So, we are thinking that by sampling one of these sounds, and then adding it to part of your concerto, it'll give it a completely different overall sound.
Gabriel Prokofiev:
Yeah, I mean, because the sound here you normally use in the concerto will work in harmony with the orchestra, they compliment it, but here you've got something from, from a different sound world and it's gonna really change the mood of the piece. His instruments almost changed really, and it's still the turntables, but his core sound is totally different. So, you know, you really will change it a lot.
Alex James:
So what's the verdict then, what do you think is gonna sound the most different from the orchestral samples that we've heard?
Naomi Wilkinson:
Yeah, let's have a listen.
Mr Switch:
Well they're quite a selection of sounds, so I'm just gonna play with each one and see what I would do with them. So first we have the whistle.
Naomi Wilkinson:
I like that.
Mr Switch:
Yeah, it's quite a nice sound, so you can kind of start to scratch it and make different rhythms out of it.
Alex James:
Barn birds.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Ooh, it's like a mad bird.
Mr Switch:
And you can kind of play with the notes. Yeah. I'll turn it down a little bit.
Naomi Wilkinson:
I like that.
Mr Switch:
So next we have the balloon sound, which is quite nice.
Alex James:
This was heavy.
Mr Switch:
This was heavy. So, it's a little bit distorted in the microphone. So we have a little bit. Then you have like an earth destroying.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Ooh, I like that.
Mr Switch:
That is actually quite nice. That's kind of a traditional scratch sound, where you have a big loud sound. And then last, I think we have the Velcro.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Velcro.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Okay, classic scratch, so they say.
Mr Switch:
Yeah, quite a nice smooth sound.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Which is your favourite then? Which one do you think would work best with the orchestra?
Mr Switch:
Well I think for sheer, sheer power, I'm quite enjoying the devastating energy of the balloon.
Alex James:
Yeah, man.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Shall we try the balloon?
Mr Switch:
What do you think, should we go balloon?
Naomi Wilkinson:
Yeah. Okay. So, if the orchestra are willing, we're put it together with a few bars from Concerto for Turntables and Orchestra and see how it changes the sound.
Gabriel Prokofiev:
Yeah, scary.
Alex James:
Yes, you can hear a different though.
Naomi Wilkinson:
Oh, excellent, amazing. That was so good.
Alex James:
So you can go away and find your own sounds, experiment and be creative. You could sample them like, Mr Switch and scratch with them. There are loads of apps you can use for that or you could simply use them as instruments in your composition to change the sound of your piece.
Naomi Wilkinson:
You'll find links on the website to help you get started, if you'd like to have a go at recording your own samples or if you'd like to learn more about how to scratch.