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More than three million people have been forced to flee their homes in the South American country of Colombia, for the poverty of shanty towns. They've been trying to escape a war which has raged for 40 years. In this major centre of cocaine production, thousands have been taken hostage and paramilitary death squads have murdered many community leaders - pastors and priests among them.

On All Things Considered this week (Sunday 13 April at 08.31am, repeated on Wednesday 16 April 6.32pm). Roy Jenkins talks to Archbishop Ruben Salazar who leads the Catholic Church's campaign for a negotiated peace in his country, and has been outspoken in denouncing poverty as one of the root causes of the conflict.

He also meets Mgr Héctor Fabio, who co-ordinates the Church's work for peace and reconciliation. He has been involved in negotiations with many different groups - and had to spend several months in exile a few years ago after threats against his life.

Also in the programme, and on a lighter note, we mark the tenth anniversary of 'Ship of Fools', the Christian website which has brought us such delights at St. Pixels the on-line church for people who prefer to worship in front of their computers; The Laugh Judgement, a competition to find the most offensive and funny religious jokes; and a Big Brother-style reality gameshow based on Noah's Ark.

The 'Ship of Fools' website is the successor to a magazine of the same name launched 30 years ago, and we meet the two Welshmen who were among its original editors: Simon Jenkins, a writer and designer who's still at the helm; and Iwan Russell Jones, now a documentary film maker with ´óÏó´«Ã½ Wales.

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