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On All Things Considered this week, (Sunday 22 February at 8.30am, repeated Wednesday 25 February at 6.30pm), Roy Jenkins meets an unlikely combination of guests - a former IRA bomber and the daughter of one of his victims.

They have been at the University of Wales, Newport at the invitation of the university chaplaincy as part of The Forgiveness Project, a charity which works for reconciliation and conflict resolution.

It was 25 years ago this autumn that a bomb at the Grand Hotel in Brighton targeted Margaret Thatcher and her cabinet during the Conservative party conference. They escaped, but five people were killed, among them the MP Sir Anthony Berry; many more were injured.

Patrick Magee, who prepared and planted that bomb, was described by the judge at his trial as 'a man of exceptional cruelty and inhumanity', and told he would serve a minimum of 35 years in prison. The Good Friday Agreement meant he was released after 14.

He now shares a platform with Jo Berry, Sir Anthony's daughter, who became convinced some years ago that despite the misgivings of some of those close to her, she needed to meet the man who had brought such grief to her family.