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On All Things Considered this week (Sunday 10 October at 9am repeated Thursday 14 October at 5.30am). As India hosts the Commonwealth Games, and the world contemplates its economic miracle, Roy Jenkins meets a man who's spent the past 25 years championing the country's very poorest.

A quarter of the population, some 250 million people, are dalits previously known as the untouchables, living in the kind of squalor seen in the film Slumdog Millionaire and regarded by many in higher castes as barely human.

Joseph d'Souza is president both of the All India Christian Council and of the Dalit Freedom Network, and he is in Wales this weekend before heading off to South Africa, where he will be speaking to a historic international conference.

Also, Roy Jenkins meets the Welshman who is one of the key people behind that event. Lindsey Brown, originally from Merthyr, is International Director of the Lausanne Movement, which later this week will bring together 4,000 leaders from more than 200 countries for its third Congress on World Evangelisation in Cape Town.

He has spent all his working life among students, including sixteen years travelling the world as leader of the International Federation of Evangelical Students.

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