Pick your classic Brazilian Grand Prix
Our classic Formula 1 series is in a bit of a purple patch at the moment and it continues with the latest selection looking ahead to the .
Like Belgium, Italy and Japan before it, Brazil has been a long-time fixture on the Formula 1 calendar, so there has been plenty of time for it to build up a catalogue of great events.
It helps, too, that the track in lends itself to overtaking, with its long pit straight and demanding corners.
Interlagos was the host of the first Brazilian Grand Prix in 1972, but two of our five choices are actually from the race's time at 's , which hosted the event in 1978 and then from 1981 to 1989, after Interlagos in its original five-mile form was deemed too dangerous.
The first of our selections, 1982, is one of my personal favourites. As a 12-year-old, I was deep into my childhood obsession with Formula 1 and, for a wide-eyed schoolboy, this race was enticing for being in an exotic location I didn't know much about as well as exciting in itself.
It featured a starring role from my childhood hero , who led the first half of the race after starting second on the grid in his Ferrari, putting in one of his trademark never-give-up drives as he battled with rapidly deteriorating tyres.
The great French-Canadian eventually lost his battle with his car's diminishing grip, and spun off at around half-distance, leaving the lead to be disputed between 's and 's .
The 1982 grand prix cars were notorious for the pain they put their drivers through, with their rock-hard suspension and high levels of grip thanks to underbody ''.
All the drivers were suffering in the sticky heat of Rio. Piquet's team-mate spun out with exhaustion after 34 of the 63 laps. And just four months after he won his first world title in despite crossing the line in a semi-comatose state, Piquet was in little better shape in his home race.
The Brazilian managed to hold off Rosberg, but the podium ceremony was too much for him. He collapsed and had to be held upright by Rosberg and third-placed finisher Alain Prost of Renault.
The drama was not over, though. F1 was going through one of its most poisonous political battles and, after the race, Piquet and Rosberg's cars were disqualified for being underweight, making Prost the winner. The rules allowed for teams to fill up with 'essential fluids' after the end of the race, and the teams using Cosworth engines, which were out-powered by the of and , were using this loophole to run their cars underweight in races.
Adding to the interest in that race, it featured arguably the best F1 grid in the history of the sport, in terms of the depths of talent on display - with Villeneuve, Prost, Piquet, Rosberg and Patrese joined by , , , , , , , and . That's more than half the grid filled by multiple grand prix winners, with a fair old smattering of greats as well. How often has that happened?
Our next selection is 1989, also in Rio, and one of Mansell's most remarkable victories.
Berger (left) and Senna collided at the start of the 1989 Brazilian GP, which Nigel Mansell went on to win
Ferrari designer pioneered the with this car, the . Within a couple of years, the system, operated through paddles on the back of the steering wheel, was to become de rigueur in F1. But Ferrari had serious development pains with it.
The car had failed to complete more than a handful of laps at a time in pre-season testing. And so convinced was Mansell that it would not last the distance in the heat that he booked an early flight home - which he promptly missed when the Ferrari not only lasted the race, but finished it first as well.
By 1993, the Brazilian Grand Prix was back at a truncated Interlagos. It was only the second race of the season, but already it was clear that Prost, now driving for Williams, was a lock for his fourth world title. The Frenchman took pole position in Brazil, with team-mate Damon Hill second and local hero only third.
But the race was far from the expected Williams demonstration run. There was a huge accident at the first corner, which took out Ferrari's Gerhard Berger and the McLaren of , who was at the start of what turned out to be an ill-starred attempt to break into F1.
Prost did indeed dominate the early laps, but the track was then hit by a typical Sao Paulo downpour and the Frenchman spun off at the first corner, hitting the Minardi of Christian Fittipaldi, who had just gone off in the same place.
That brought out the safety car, which negated the big lead Hill had built up over Senna, who passed the Englishman shortly after the re-start and sent the crowd wild with a win that put him into the lead of the world championship.
The following year's race was equally eventful. It is remembered for two main things.
Firstly, Michael Schumacher laid down a marker for Benetton's domination of the season by outpacing Senna, who suffered the ignominy of spinning in the closing laps trying to keep pace
Secondly, there was a massive accident involving , , and , which resulted in Verstappen's Benetton somersaulting out of the race, his tyre leaving a black rubber mark on Brundle's helmet as he flew over the Englishman's McLaren.
Irvine, who had already made a name for himself as something of a bad boy after getting himself punched by Senna at his debut race in Japan the year before, was banned for three races for causing the crash.
Our final choice is last year's title-deciding race, which surely needs no introduction.
, needing only to finish fifth to clinch the title even if his rival, Felipe Massa of Ferrari won, made heavy weather of his task.
In arguably the most exciting championship climax in F1 history, when Massa crossed the line to win the race, Hamilton was only in sixth place, and in the Ferrari pit they celebrated, thinking their man was the world champion.
But out on the track Hamilton was still striving, and as he exited the last real corner of the track, with only the long blast up the hill to the finish line to go, fifth placed man Timo Glock of Toyota was struggling to find grip on the wet track with his dry-weather tyres.
Hamilton accelerated past him, and into the fifth place he needed to clinch the title.
As ever, we are asking you to give us your views on which race we should feature in the run-up to the race next week. We will pick one race to highlight - a decision that will be informed by your responses to this blog, but not based solely on them.
If that race is from the era when the ´óÏó´«Ã½ had the rights to F1 - which in this case means all the choices apart from 2008 - then we will show the full 'Grand Prix' highlights programme that was broadcast at the time.
We'd also welcome your views on the selection itself - by all means point out other races you think we should have included. We can always include these next year.
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Comment number 1.
At 7th Oct 2009, craignic05 wrote:Mr personal fave is the 2003 race, the craziest race i have ever seen!! The race started wet, but the trak was drying, and a river ran across turn 3, Button Schumacher and many other drivers all one by one, lap after lap come to grief in the tyre wall.
then the race was red flagged after a huge crash by Webber running up to the start finish line, Alsonso then collected his stray tyre and had a huge crash himself.
Fisichella was declaed the winner in his Jordan, his car caught fire in Parc Ferme, but confusion ensued - No-body was sure wether Fisichella or Raikkonen won, Raikkonen took the top step, but at the following GP handed the trophy to Fisi, for what was Jordan's last win in F1
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At 7th Oct 2009, MightyReferee wrote:Out of the choices, I'll go for 1982. Surely 2003 has to be there though. I know its in the ITV era but couldn't you just show an 8 minute clip of it?
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At 7th Oct 2009, Japorea02 wrote:Where are Brazil '01 and '03? These were two of the greatest races in modern times, the first because it launched Juan Pablo Montoya into F1 stardom with his glorious pass of Schumi before being clouted up the rear by Jos The Boss before DC took an absolutely heroic victory, outpacing the rain meister at over a second a lap, before overtaking him in a quite outstanding move utilising Marques' Minardi - this move was every bit as ballsy and brilliant as Hakkinen's pass on Schummel Schumi in Spa the previous year, but got nowhere near the recognition.
Brazil '03 was in my opinion, second only to Japan '05 in the greatest race of the last decade. It had it all - horrendous conditions, great racing, huge accidents and a shock winner. It was also the turning point of David Coulthard's career - had the race gone the distance he would have been leading the championship entering the European season and as DC was always a driver who needed every ounce of confidence he could get, he could well have gone on to win the title that year. As it was, the race got halted early, in his own words he 'hit the mini-bar hard that night' then by the time we got to Imola his yips had started, Kimi got the upper hand on him, after which he never truly recovered.
'93 was a quality wet race, but it didnt have the twists and turns of '03, nor the shock winner. And as for 1994, there was little going on other than that big crash involving Irv, Brundle and The Boss. Senna gallantly chased Schumi, but there was little on-track action to speak of. I realise since you can't show post-'97 races in full here there needs to be a bit of tactical voting, but i'd far rather watch 10 mins of Brazil '01 or '03 than a full half hour of 1994.
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At 7th Oct 2009, Ryan86 wrote:1993 would probably be my pick.
AB, I'm pretty sure the Ligier driver involved in the 4 car accident was Eric Bernard.
2008 was a cracker, but I got my recording stashed away somewhere.
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Comment number 5.
At 7th Oct 2009, the3douches wrote:Hmm, tough one, I'll pick 1993 please.
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At 7th Oct 2009, joe strummer wrote:My choice is 1993. 2008 was dramatic but as it was only last year it's not old enough to need reminding of what happened.
2006 should have been a choice as well, that was a great race, seeing Schumacher come all the way from the back and his passing manoeuvre on Raikkonen with 5 laps left. Guess some of the races have to be saved for the upcoming seasons though.
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At 7th Oct 2009, cordas wrote:Would love to see 1982, although I think 2008 has to be one of my favourite GPs of all time.
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Comment number 8.
At 7th Oct 2009, modtl1 wrote:1989 please
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Comment number 9.
At 7th Oct 2009, smifffies wrote:First choice 1982
Second choice 1989
To be honest 2008 was only dramatic for the last few hundred yards and as joe strummer has pointed out too recent and too oft repeated. Just a request from an older F1 fan on the more popular, older (proper) tracks, could we leave out this decade as apart from the very new (young) fans most have been seen too recently and repeatedly to the point of boredom. Although i am still a schumey fan it would be nice, as i am sure you have a much wider range of clips from earlier decades, to see some of the great racing drivers from the past.
Many of these drivers did not have the benefit of all the electronic aids that were available in the 2000s, and in my opinion needed more car control skill than the current crop. I would like to see some of the under 25's currently in F1 attempt a few laps at either Suzuka or Interlagos in a JPS Lotus or 70's/80's Turbo Renault, that drivers like Mario Andretti Ayrton Senna, Nigel Mansell and Martin Brundle had to deal with, which they did successfully!
As there are many newer tracks added to the calender which would give only the options of viewing from this decade, this would give a nice balanced experience, catering for younger fans who are perhaps more interested in the more recent races. I have seen some comments on past "pick your classic Grand Prix" somewhat confusing as quite often younger fans chose recent GP's giving the reason that the others were of less interest as they occurred before they were born????
Anyway would like to say thanks to Andrew and the team for giving us the opportunity to relive some of these classic races. More Andretti/De Angelis and Hunt/Fittipaldi/Sir Jackie Stewart please.
Ta
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Comment number 10.
At 7th Oct 2009, lam502 wrote:I agree '01 or '03 should be there. '03 being my personal favourite im suprise dit wasn't in the blog
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At 7th Oct 2009, Niko wrote:1982 seems to be the one with the most action, and so deserving of the full highlights.
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Comment number 12.
At 7th Oct 2009, BENINLUX wrote:1993 please Andy.
BTW, you have an awesome job here!
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Comment number 13.
At 7th Oct 2009, CNW0429 wrote:I'll vote for 1982, for sentimentiality. I know one half Jacarepagua has been demolished already, and I think I'm right in saying that the other half will be a victim of Rio's successful Olympic bid. Perhaps not a classic circuit, but did provide some great racing and drama, and also housed the most random oval circuit I've come across, which was good for some classic champ car racing.
Despite the tragedies of Villeneuve and Paletti and Colin Chapman, and Pironi's crash, 1982 must have been one of the most dramatic season ever, judging by the number of times the races have cropped up here.
Brazil, Monaco, Austria, Germany, have all been nominted, and then there's San Marino too.
1993-Wasn't this the first time the safety car had been used since that Canadian farce in the 1970s?
2003 is the obvious 1 missing from the list. I remember it got massive viewing figures because it over ran and everyone else tuned in for Corrie! 2004 wasn't bad, and the tension of the last 3 years mad great too. Obviously any chance to see the 1979 or 1980 races on the older 5 mile Interlagos would be great; you can still see the outline of the circuit on google earth. I wonde rwhat it would be like if it got restored?
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At 7th Oct 2009, VioletPingu wrote:First Choice 2008
Second Choice 2003
Third Choice 1982
I will enjoy whatever you put up there though!
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At 7th Oct 2009, davedpg5 wrote:Can you please make that Crofty's orginsl commentary goes on the 2008 edit, so funny afterwards to hear he'd cocked it up when James and Martin called it right.
By the way this is not a vote for 2008
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At 7th Oct 2009, Carlonso wrote:2003 - I'm sure Radio 5 live commentary can be dropped in with the highlights.Mad race.
1982 - great driver line up
1989 - Mansell winning it in a Ferrari
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At 7th Oct 2009, allstarstan wrote:I still get goosebumps re-watching the 2008 closing stages, remembering how I was jumping up and down shouting at the TV to make Lewis hurry up... but I agree it is too recent and I too have a copy of it to watch at my leisure.
Could we have '93 please?
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Comment number 18.
At 7th Oct 2009, megajc2222 wrote:2003,2007,2001.
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Comment number 19.
At 7th Oct 2009, MGUK82 wrote:'08. Yes it's ITV era, yes it's recent - who cares? The drama of that race is just unbeatable!
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At 7th Oct 2009, Scott Thomson wrote:Tough choices as there has been many brilliant races (Mostly because it started and more recently finished the season. 94 is best remembered for that crash with Irvine, Brundle and Verstappen and Senna spinning out). I'll choose '89 and '93 because i've not seen those races yet.
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Comment number 21.
At 7th Oct 2009, shredaholic wrote:1989, surely!
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Comment number 22.
At 7th Oct 2009, 21shergar wrote:2008's renewal (at least the closing stages) constitutes one of the greatest sporting moments ever. Please do include it.
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Comment number 23.
At 7th Oct 2009, msadler04 wrote:1994 please, 93 as a second choice
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Comment number 24.
At 7th Oct 2009, silverstone79 wrote:1982 please.
I know the footage will be grainy but it will be very nice to see GV in his Ferrari again, even if we know the eventual outcome will see it in the crash fencing.
Also one of the last outings for the famous FW07 and the begining of Keke Rosberg being regarded as truly quick driver.
The cars that year were insane though. Ground effect, full "fixed" skirts with virtually no suspension movement...ouch.
After that race GV was talking to Nigel Roebuck about the perils of the latest generation of cars and how the cornering speeds were too high. He was commenting on the different tracks and how the drivers would be effected by the G force. Brands Hatch he reckoned would be "something else and I expect Zolder will be quite a good killer" How sad that his words were so prophetic.
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At 7th Oct 2009, Daydream Procrastinator wrote:Where's 2003?! All of them except 2008 are before I can remember, so based on your descriptions, I'll go for '89, but all of them would be good!
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Comment number 26.
At 7th Oct 2009, f1fantic wrote:Where is 2003 it was one of the craziest races over. Also 2001 was a good race.
My vote will be for 1993 because it was a dramatic race when the rain came in.
Why is 2008 being featured now? Again, I thought it would featured in the last classic f1 series of the season.
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Comment number 27.
At 7th Oct 2009, AndyBrook83 wrote:2008 is easily the most dramatic title decider in history. BUT - it's too recent, has been shown too many times and if I ever want to see it again, the DVD will cover me for that. That said, we'll still be talking about it for years!
I'm amazed 2003 isn't nominated. One of the craziest and most eventful races in recent times and it would have got my vote.
Of the options, I'll go for 1993.
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Comment number 28.
At 7th Oct 2009, Kalma1212 wrote:2003 and 2008 for me! two of the best races i have ever seen!
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Comment number 29.
At 7th Oct 2009, f1iguana wrote:I am really dissappointed! The 2003 Brazilian GP is my absolute favourite! And why showing last years race? It is supposed to be classic? Not a fan of Hamilton and just because he is English this GP has been picked!!! What about respect for Felipe he nearly died this year!
I was really sure you would pick 2003 which still makes me smile what a race please change your mind! F1 is more than Hamilton or even Schumacher! And I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who just want to enjoy a great race
So please please please make us happy and change your mind!
Thank you
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Comment number 30.
At 7th Oct 2009, DaveMyers wrote:You didn't mention that Johnny Herbert finished fourth on his debut in 1989 (almost finished 3rd!) whilst still recovering from his horrendous F3000 crash at Brands.
1993 was a classic, and featured another heroic drive from our Johnny, dicing for 3rd with Schumi in the closing stages.
I'd choose 1989 then 1993.
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Comment number 31.
At 7th Oct 2009, guitardom89 wrote:My choices are:
2003
2004
2006
2007
2008
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Comment number 32.
At 7th Oct 2009, mesmerizingAmanda wrote:It has to be 2008 - the most "on the edge of your seat" race I have ever seen. If you just show the closing laps, watching the emotions of the families in the Ferrari and McLaren teams, even the commentators not believing what they were seeing - amazing climax to the season - brilliant.
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Comment number 33.
At 7th Oct 2009, Bortron wrote:As I've never seen any highlights of it, I'll vote for 1982.
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Comment number 34.
At 7th Oct 2009, Simon Puiy wrote:1989 would be my first choice. An absolute classic drive by Mansell to give an unexpected win on his debut for Ferrari.
I would agree with some of the other comments made that 2003 should be included in this selection as it was one of the best Brazilian GP's I can remember, but out of the short list given I would choose 1993.
2001 was also a cracker and Montoya's first overtake on Schumacher to take the lead, shame he got taken out when lapping Verstappen!!
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Comment number 35.
At 7th Oct 2009, sumofmarc wrote:2003
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Comment number 36.
At 7th Oct 2009, ultima_volta wrote:Id love to see the extended highlights of the 1989 race for a few reasons
- It was Mansells first win for Ferrari - on his debut for the team !!!
- In my opinion the Ferrari 639/640 was the most beautiful Formula 1 car ever designed
- Seeing a great win by a dogged Brit win will spur us all on and rally around our Jense
On a side note, heres a question for u - apart from Nigel Mansell can you name the only other 2 drivers who have won for Ferrari on their debut???
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Comment number 37.
At 7th Oct 2009, BulletMonkey wrote:I'd say last year's simply because it decided the title so dramatically. In hindsight, the 1993 one didn't make a huge amount of difference as Prost went on to win the title anyway. I guess it holds sentimental value though because obviously Senna was dead within a year. It may well have been a better race (I didn't see it, sadly), but nothing can ever be more dramatic than a title being decided on the final lap of the final after one of those involved has already crossed the line thinking he's done enough.
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Comment number 38.
At 7th Oct 2009, Incast wrote:I believe you've missed out some hidden gems in the 80s there, Andrew. Although 89 is always remembered for Mansell's pass, but there are some other thrilling races from that decade to look into for next year.
I'm voting for 1993, with the huge deluge creating absolute mayhem towards the end. Once the track had dried, Herbert versus Schumacher was a great spectacle.
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Comment number 39.
At 7th Oct 2009, BulletMonkey wrote:29. At 12:43pm on 07 Oct 2009, f1iguana wrote:
And why showing last years race? It is supposed to be classic? Not a fan of Hamilton and just because he is English this GP has been picked!!! What about respect for Felipe he nearly died this year!
What a ludicrous comment. Just because you personally don't like Hamilton doesn't mean that you can deny the timelessness of the race. Your personal opinion of someone is absolutely irrelevant when analysing an event such as this. So no, Benson will not be changing his mind and nor should he be.
Also, what do you mean "show respect to Massa, he nearly died this year"? What's that got to do with anything? This was the championship-deciding race from last season, of which he was a part of. Are you suggesting it should be omitted just because he failed to win it and has since suffered ill fortune? If you are, you're very blinkered.
I sincerely hope your comment is removed, as it exhibits everything that is wrong with biased sports fans today.
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Comment number 40.
At 7th Oct 2009, Andy_Redden123 wrote:Where's 2003????
Thats one of the all time classic F1 grand prix
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Comment number 41.
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Comment number 42.
At 7th Oct 2009, David Robinson wrote:Really should have had 2003 as a choice...
Anyway, my vote is for 1982 first and 1993 second. Like many, I have 2008 taped already, and to echo BulletMonkey, massive respect to Massa, even though I was overjoyed Hamilton was champ.
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At 7th Oct 2009, adult_male wrote:1982 for me because I'm also a Gilles Villeneuve fan.
How about 1980 though, where he got a scorching start and lead for a whole lap at the old Interlagos in that wreck, the Ferrari T5 ? Admittedly, it's only one lap and the rest of the race was quite forgettable, but the first 5 minutes would do !
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Comment number 44.
At 7th Oct 2009, Paul Lucas wrote:1993 please.
It's been a great year of highlights, these are great choices. How much better would last year have been if Hamilton had've lost it..
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Comment number 45.
At 7th Oct 2009, David Robinson wrote:To clarify, I was referring to f1iguana's post, in that I respected Massa's win, but agree with BulletMonkey his misfortune this year is no reason to veto this race.
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Comment number 46.
At 7th Oct 2009, gutbomber wrote:1989 please!
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Comment number 47.
At 7th Oct 2009, MistahJim wrote:Out of those choices I have to go for '93, but I agree with the previous comments that '03 was an absolute classic. He may have crashed out, but Webber managed to avoid coming to grief on the river flowing across the track out of turn 3 that claimed so many, including Schumacher.
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Comment number 48.
At 7th Oct 2009, jemstride wrote:I agree with people's comments about 2003 but its not an option, so I'll vote for 1993 as I've not seen highlights of that one
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Comment number 49.
At 7th Oct 2009, schumidgreat wrote:I would like to see the 2008 finale.. One of the most nerve-wracking finals that one could think of.
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Comment number 50.
At 7th Oct 2009, physical_graffiti wrote:1982, 1989, 1993
err I really can't decide!
1982 - a great year (in terms driver quality), race seems interesting and wouldn't mind watching/reminding
1989 - Mansell worked hard for that win, had to overtake Prost a couple of times because he was 2-stopping, IIRC
1993 - another great year, brilliant drive from Senna and brilliant battle for third place onwards.
I would love to see 1991 race - hard to believe it was Senna's first win on home soil! And he did it the hard way! He had gearbox gremlins and had to drive some corners in sixth though luckily Williams had similar gremlins. As soon as he crossed the finish line the fans poured onto the track!
13. At 11:43am on 07 Oct 2009, CNW0429 wrote:
"I'll vote for 1982, for sentimentiality. I know one half Jacarepagua has been demolished already, and I think I'm right in saying that the other half will be a victim of Rio's successful Olympic bid. Perhaps not a classic circuit, but did provide some great racing and drama, and also housed the most random oval circuit I've come across, which was good for some classic champ car racing."
Agree, Jacarepagua is somewhat underated due to its notorious bumpy track surface but it has some super quick sweepers that destroyed your neck muscles and a long back straight for overtaking.
A shame its being destroyed, the track has great racing history to it.
24. At 12:37pm on 07 Oct 2009, silverstone79 wrote:
"The cars that year were insane though. Ground effect, full "fixed" skirts with virtually no suspension movement...ouch.
After that race GV was talking to Nigel Roebuck about the perils of the latest generation of cars and how the cornering speeds were too high. He was commenting on the different tracks and how the drivers would be effected by the G force. Brands Hatch he reckoned would be "something else and I expect Zolder will be quite a good killer" How sad that his words were so prophetic."
Gilles hated those cars. Had no enjoyment driving round quick corners flat out. Ironic considering the recent age of electronic aids.
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Comment number 51.
At 7th Oct 2009, moloko88 wrote:1989 was a classic, coming after the McLaren domination of 1988, it provided a fantastic start to the atmo era. Although it was a false dawn as McLaren came back strongly at Imola.
Also, i think Brazil 1989 had the closet top 6 finishers in history!
I've seen some clips of 1982 but not the whole Grand Prix programme, so my vote goes to 82.
In response to 36. Giancarlo Baghetti France 1961 and Mario Andretti South Africa 1971
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Comment number 52.
At 7th Oct 2009, JAM-F1 wrote:Re #36 - Giancarlo Baghetti won on his debut for Ferrari at the 1961 French Grand Prix, and after Mansell in 1989, Kimi Raikkonen won on his debut at the 2007 Australian Grand Prix (I think).
My first choice is 1989 and my second is 1982 - I've never seen the Rio track before so it'll be interesting to see what it was like. Is it true that it has been / will be demolished for the 2016 Olympics?
What a pity that there are only ever five choices for Classic Grand Prix because I think that most of the Brazilian Grand Prix that I've watched over the last decade are classics - e.g. 2003 was a great race, 2006 (Schumacher's final race and charge through the field), and 2007 (three-way championship decider). 2001 (Montoya and Schumacher + Verstappen) and 2002 (Schumacher and Montoya opening lap incident) have classic moments as well.
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Comment number 53.
At 7th Oct 2009, Dispenser89 wrote:1982. Only watched bits of it before, but it looks like the most action packed race.
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Comment number 54.
At 7th Oct 2009, Rich wrote:something from the eighties please.
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Comment number 55.
At 7th Oct 2009, moloko88 wrote:Forgot about Kimi! That makes 3 then.
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Comment number 56.
At 7th Oct 2009, Ripinho wrote:Benson you have had an absolute shocker.
2008 was eventful for all of 5 laps and is still very much in the public eye and not really needed for nostalgia purpose. You could of been forgiven for including it if there was no better grand prixs, but...
...you have missed out 2003! One of the best grand prixs of all time let alone just Brazilian ones! That race was pure drama as soon as the safety car pulled in from the start.
Schumi, Button & Montoya all getting caught out at Turn 3, Rubens running out of fuel as he was winning. Fisichella's absolute storming drive to win with arguably the second worse car on the grid....it just goes on.
Explain yourself Andrew!
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Comment number 57.
At 7th Oct 2009, youtubef1atps3 wrote:Please 2007 was really fun the overtaking just please have 2007 then the rest i dont care but plz 2007
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Comment number 58.
At 7th Oct 2009, f1iguana wrote:Sorry want to apologize did not want to offend anyone. Just a little upset because 2003 wasnt picked!
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Comment number 59.
At 7th Oct 2009, Craig wrote:Can't believe that 2003 hasn't been included - surely the craziest Brazilian GP there's ever been?
2008 was eventful because of the last couple of laps but the preceeding events were pretty processional. I fail to see what 1993 had to offer too apart from displaying Prost's complete inability to drive in the rain (but you could choose any number of races for that!)
My vote out of that selection has to be for 1989. Mansell on his Ferrari debut wins against all the odds. Awesome! And put Mansell straight into Ferrari folklore.
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At 7th Oct 2009, CharlieF1 wrote:It has to be 2008 - But is there any chance you could show it with the TV commentary of Martin Brundle and James Allen? Every time I hear Martin say YES I get goose bumps, no offence to the 5Live team but I would really like to hear that again, you seem to be able to have access to some of the ITV commentary so please sort it for this.
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At 7th Oct 2009, Wheelie EDSer wrote:I'll go for 1989 please - I was 13 at the time, with a love of Ferrari but as they hadn't been doing too well since I started following F1, I had also been supporting Mansell. Finally the two combined and I could have something to celebrate. I'd love to see it again.
My second choice is 1982 purely because I love reminiscing over the old races, particularly those before the mid-80s as I was too young to remember them. Love seeing how big the cars were and how chaotic the pits seemed.
But 1989 would be my favourite.
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At 7th Oct 2009, ingisgone wrote:2007 has to be a top choice
1.2007
2.2003
3.2008
and the one where rubens car stopped on the last lap it was wet i think
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At 7th Oct 2009, Henghist wrote:My favourite Brazil GP, although I did not notice it on your list, was I think Montoya's first year in F1 and he just barged past Schuey at the first corner following a safety car period. I am guessing it was 2000/1.
But to pick from the list you speak of then it has to be 1993. Senna's last proper race at home (I do not count his few attempts in 1994, which ultimately led to his sad demise), that big incident with Andretti who seemed to go on and make a habit of it!
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At 7th Oct 2009, CNW0429 wrote:Re. JAM-F1 #52
The Pan-American games were held in Rio in 2007, and the bottom half of the track was used for the new stadium and it's car park. According to the link to Jacarepagua in Andrew's article, they announced the rest of it would be destroyed for the Olympics. I think the Brazilian touring cars still held a race there this year, but last week's announcement probably signals the real end.
In fairness, the track was very much underused anyway, since motogp and the Champ Car series stopped visiting it. The 80s heyday seem futher away than the years suggest, and it's probably better used as an olympic site now, as long as the facilities are used after the games, as they so often aren't.
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At 7th Oct 2009, jamesallensmells wrote:i would say 2003 coz that was a classic and more my era, however the older races sound just as good
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At 7th Oct 2009, Phil Taylor wrote:Toss up between 89 and 93, but I think I will plump for 93. While 08 was a corker too barring the last few laps the race wasn't all that great. Plus the fact its always nice to see races from the good ole days!
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At 7th Oct 2009, cornishprimmie wrote:I'll go with 2008, not felt tension like that for a long time, just the site of Timo slowing round the final few corners!! Immense!
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At 7th Oct 2009, Dave wrote:Why isn't 2003 there? (OK, I know it wouldn't have had extended highlights, but that race was one of the best this century).
1994 please.
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At 7th Oct 2009, Stuart wrote:It has to be 1989 with Mansell or 1982 with Villeneuve.
I would also like to mention that I think the 2007 world championship finale in Brazil would also be a worthy entry in future with Kimi Raikkonen winning the title from nowhere or perhaps Schumacher's bad luck in 2006 and his amazing drive from nearly a lap down to be pipped by Alonso.
Thanks, Stuart.
- www.formula1-blog.com
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At 7th Oct 2009, Peter Santamaria-Woods wrote:Brazil 2003 has to be picked surely???
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At 7th Oct 2009, Swiss15 wrote:im very surprised 2003 isnt in there. it would get my vote for the best brazilian GP. apart from that it has to be 2008, but that was nowhere near as good as 03...
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At 7th Oct 2009, CNW0429 wrote:*Jacarepagua*
there is a video on YT of the track (search the circuit name, its titled in portuguese) from this year of bikes using the shortened track, and with a massive great Stadium standing on the first section of the GP lap, turns 3/4 of the speedway. brings a tear to the eye...
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At 7th Oct 2009, Senna27 wrote:I vote for 1982.
Andrew, Does the beeb have any footage of any races before 1979 left in its archive at all? If so, could you let us know what? For next year, I, persoanlly, would love to see races before 1979 when possible. Thus far, we have seen the late 70's, 80's, 90's, and 00's with the exception of the 1976 Japanese GP. If there ever is an opportunity to rebroadcast a genuine old race before 1979, that would just be magic. So many legends such as Stewart, Rindt, Peterson, Fittipaldi, Hunt. I would like to see more of those.
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At 7th Oct 2009, Sean Sutton wrote:I've got to go for 2008! But in the lst four hundred metres, Crofty totally missed Hamilton passing Glock at Juncao, which is my only criticism of having ´óÏó´«Ã½ Five Live comms. But apart from that, that's my first choice.
But maybe extended highlights of 1993, if possible! And maybe 2003.
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At 7th Oct 2009, craig-woollard wrote:I cannot remember any races, except 08, but by the sounds of it 1993 must have been a real cracker so I shall vote for that one. Watching all the classic races gets me pumped up for the race weekend, great work!
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At 7th Oct 2009, auslegal wrote:Well, another time when I way that there are races that are not on the list that should be ('01 & '03, with other possiblities).
Also, it's another time when I feel I'm the kid in sweet shop.
I'll narrow it down to '82 & '89 (though the others are great).
I'm a Mansell fan. The '82 race was an apsolute classic.
1st) 1989
2nd) 1982
Thanks again for this.
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At 7th Oct 2009, theravingrabbid85 wrote:1993
1994
1989
1982
2008 perhaps could of been saved till Abu Dhabi to famous title deciders.
can see what people see 2001 & 2003 were great races
but i have one question i this feature going to be available next season ?????
i truely hope so as it is just fantastic ,licence fee money well spent :)
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At 7th Oct 2009, artichoke15 wrote:PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE 2003!!!
This is coming from a die-hard Fisichella fan! Supported him since 1996 and fans like me need all the good memories we can get!
That really was an epic race, when turn 3 (I think) became the most expensive car park ever with all the cars that aquaplaned off there.
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At 7th Oct 2009, F1isfab wrote:Last year was a pinacle of the sport as was 2003, those two are easily the best. I always remember 1999 though. The Barrichello jinx hit when he was leading in a Stewart, hope it does not strike again for him, want the title to go to Abu Dhabi.
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At 7th Oct 2009, physical_graffiti wrote:Next year, lets have a race from the old Interlagos. Would love to see longer highlights on what was ferocious circuit.
And before I forget, congratulations to Andrew on his new baby
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At 7th Oct 2009, TreezaGreen wrote:bit of a cliché but last years race was pretty much as good as it gets for Brazil!
1993 was a good race, a few incidents and great to see Senna doing the business in a far from competetive car.
only other one I can remember is 2003 which was pretty good. Isn't it amazing that all the good races at Interlagos have happened when its rained!
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At 7th Oct 2009, EeroF1 wrote:My opinion:
Best was 2007.
Three drivers were fighting for the chapionship and Raikkonen won championship in memorable way.
2003 was very interesting race in very difficult circumstances becouse of hard rain.
But best was 2007.
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At 7th Oct 2009, domtv09 wrote:My first ever F1 race was Brazil 2003, and I would love to see highlights of the race.
Although it would be comfusing for ´óÏó´«Ã½ to announce who the winner is, as Fisi did no press conference when he was announced as the winner.
But in Belgium 08, ´óÏó´«Ã½ just spoke to Hamilton and announced him a sthe race winner for classic gp's, so i suppose ´óÏó´«Ã½ could have announced Kimi as the winner in the BRAZIL GP03 Classic gps
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At 7th Oct 2009, lewis1forever wrote:i think 2008 was not only the best Brazilian gp but the best all season or even this decade so it should win
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At 7th Oct 2009, Mike Taylor - ´óÏó´«Ã½ WM wrote:1982 please.
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At 7th Oct 2009, ashleye17 wrote:2003 and 2008 and 98
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At 7th Oct 2009, domloia wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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At 7th Oct 2009, Fabbyulous wrote:Where are Brazil '01 and '03? These were two of the greatest races in modern times, the first because it launched Juan Pablo Montoya into F1 stardom with his glorious pass of Schumi before being clouted up the rear by Jos The Boss before DC took an absolutely heroic victory, outpacing the rain meister at over a second a lap, before overtaking him in a quite outstanding move utilising Marques' Minardi - this move was every bit as ballsy and brilliant as Hakkinen's pass on Schummel Schumi in Spa the previous year, but got nowhere near the recognition.
Brazil '03 was in my opinion, second only to Japan '05 in the greatest race of the last decade. It had it all - horrendous conditions, great racing, huge accidents and a shock winner. It was also the turning point of David Coulthard's career - had the race gone the distance he would have been leading the championship entering the European season and as DC was always a driver who needed every ounce of confidence he could get, he could well have gone on to win the title that year. As it was, the race got halted early, in his own words he 'hit the mini-bar hard that night' then by the time we got to Imola his yips had started, Kimi got the upper hand on him, after which he never truly recovered.
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Couldn't agree more, Brazil 01 was my favourite race of all time, DC's move was as great if not greater than Mika's one Schumacher whilst going round Zonta at Spa the previous Year, Coulthard did an identical move but in the wet against the best wet weather driver in f1 or supposedly do. It had little schumacher and barrichello colliding infamously and as you said Montoya's baptism into f1 was here, only to be cruelly shunted out by the out of control Arrows.
2003 is the same, an unpredictable wet race that had everyone leading the race. Everyone had turns as fast and slow, Montoya, Schumacher and Kimi all fast in the opening stages before the first two aquaplaned as did half the grid at the 'dangerzone' that was turn three. From then on it was Barrichello vs Coulthard, the Brazilian making the most of Coulthards blistered tyres to take the lead only for his gearbox to fail him. That left Coulthard way out in front before pitting, Fisichella took Raikonnen and then Alonso crashing at an already no-go area after Webber's incident rought the end of the gp and Fisichella declared winner (DC was provisionally leading though and would have won if it'd gone the distance.) Full of crashes, overtakes (both Alonso and Kimi going round the outside of Ralf Schumacher), aquaplaning and loads more - a race which didn't stop the entertainment.
Tell me how 08 which was rank apart from the last three laps can come ahead of either grand prix please Andrew or were you hibernating between 2001 and 2003.
I'll pin for 1994
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At 7th Oct 2009, Fabbyulous wrote:i think 2008 was not only the best Brazilian gp but the best all season or even this decade so it should win
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Well with a username like that then I understand why you say it but seriously, what action was there besides the last three laps in which Lewis Hamilton did nothing special other than overtake a Toyota on blistered Dry tyres on a wet circuit?
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At 7th Oct 2009, Andy_Redden123 wrote:Andrew,
Surely you can make and exception for Brazil 2003?
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At 7th Oct 2009, MrNeutron wrote:1989 please. And shame on you for ignoring 2003.
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At 7th Oct 2009, mackthescout wrote:I would love to see 2008 again. I haven't actually seen it since last year and it seems impossible to find it in any length on YouTube. Could you extend the highlights as much as possible (I appreciate it isn't as easy as uploading an old 'Grand Prix', but this is a special race). Also, could you get the ITV commentary on it, as James and Martin actually called it right and Five Live didn't (not very often ITV gets one over on the ´óÏó´«Ã½).
As for the races left out, I have to say if I'd had the option, 2001, '03 and '06 would have been options. I know they are all relatively recent, but they are all great races. More exciting than 1994 from what I remember.
Great feature as always and keep up the good work.
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At 7th Oct 2009, Pedro Franco wrote:In order:
1993, an overall great and classic race.
2001, for launching Montoya into the F1 world.
2003, for being amazingly hectic.
1991, for the battle between Senna and Patrese at the end of the race.
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At 7th Oct 2009, gdmonty wrote:Disappointed 2003 isn't in here aswell as 2007. For 2008 would it bepossible to break the rulesslightly and use the iconic ITV coverage? The quote "And is that..Is that Glock? Is thast Glock going slowly it is" Is one that will stay with me and many others forever. Also for this race it would be nice to see the scenes afterwards especially the podium ceremony and Lewis celebratinghis title.
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At 7th Oct 2009, Nigel wrote:1982 please! Best season ever, and one of the most tragic. Always a pleasure to watch Gilles in action.
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At 7th Oct 2009, rhodri_lp2222 wrote:Why is 2008 a choice if 2003 isn't there? 2003 was one of the best races of the decade whilst 2008 was only good in the last few laps.
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At 7th Oct 2009, Bon Jovi wrote:Absolutely amazed that 2003 is not on this list - would be on my list of the top 5 races of all time!
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At 7th Oct 2009, sadisticend wrote:The 2008 Brazillian GP was one of my favourites ever, it was exciting the weather was unpredictable and the stakes were incredibly high. I remember this race very well and since I want to see full highlights of a race I will vote for...
1993!
It was a close decision between 93 and 94, I think the full highlights of the 93 race will be more entertaining.
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At 7th Oct 2009, IpswichTownF1 wrote:surely there are too many great Brazilian GPs for just a choice than 5. we have the five already selected, plus 2003 and 2001. My personal choice is 08, greatest F1 finle ever.
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At 7th Oct 2009, SG19 Cowshed - Das Boot wrote:1982 and/or 1989 please!
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